ImageImageImageImageImage

GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk

Moderators: moocow007, magnumt, Knickstape1214, Capn'O, King of Canada, Deeeez Knicks, Thorn, GONYK, NoLayupRule, Thugger HBC, j4remi, mrpoetryNmotion

User avatar
nykballa2k4
RealGM
Posts: 21,461
And1: 2,478
Joined: Jul 26, 2004
Location: Kurt Rhombus is managing the defense...
       

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#61 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:15 pm

J9Starks3 wrote:
moocow007 wrote:So far nothing has happened to change the "Knicks really need to get a top 3 pick" mantra. Sure a lot of the lottery guys have looked impressive but not enough so that it cements them as potential game changers in the NBA.


I assume you have Fultz, Ball, Jackson as top 3? I would not be terribly upset with Tatum, Smith or Monk either.


Monk really does not look like my cup of tea. His metrics are pretty bad (short wingspan for his height) and aside from shooting/scoring, his numbers are unimpressive. Fox to me is the Kentucky guy of interest. With our teams needs, we may benefit from moving down for more picks. Can anyone tell me more about this point guard on Wichita?
Numbers don't lie, people who use them do
What do you think about @kporzee? Karl-Anthony Towns: PorzinGOD does not care or need my opinion for he is a higher life form then all of us.
User avatar
battabing10
Pro Prospect
Posts: 890
And1: 265
Joined: Jan 04, 2017
Location: Antarctica
     

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#62 » by battabing10 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:43 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
J9Starks3 wrote:
moocow007 wrote:So far nothing has happened to change the "Knicks really need to get a top 3 pick" mantra. Sure a lot of the lottery guys have looked impressive but not enough so that it cements them as potential game changers in the NBA.


I assume you have Fultz, Ball, Jackson as top 3? I would not be terribly upset with Tatum, Smith or Monk either.


Monk really does not look like my cup of tea. His metrics are pretty bad (short wingspan for his height) and aside from shooting/scoring, his numbers are unimpressive. Fox to me is the Kentucky guy of interest. With our teams needs, we may benefit from moving down for more picks. Can anyone tell me more about this point guard on Wichita?


i think monk look okay. quick feet and he looks like he got long arms to me. willing defender too.
Melo: be a great 6th man or be DBDM [deadbeat Dad Melo] (thanks blueNorange)-- Knicks move forward either way. Tatum and Monk will disappoint.
User avatar
Red Vines
RealGM
Posts: 28,366
And1: 5,085
Joined: Jun 26, 2005
Location: Bermuda Triangle
     

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#63 » by Red Vines » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:06 pm

Phil drafting Frankamp. Great game.
User avatar
J9Starks3
Veteran
Posts: 2,525
And1: 290
Joined: May 22, 2007
Location: CT
       

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#64 » by J9Starks3 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:07 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
J9Starks3 wrote:
moocow007 wrote:So far nothing has happened to change the "Knicks really need to get a top 3 pick" mantra. Sure a lot of the lottery guys have looked impressive but not enough so that it cements them as potential game changers in the NBA.


I assume you have Fultz, Ball, Jackson as top 3? I would not be terribly upset with Tatum, Smith or Monk either.


Monk really does not look like my cup of tea. His metrics are pretty bad (short wingspan for his height) and aside from shooting/scoring, his numbers are unimpressive. Fox to me is the Kentucky guy of interest. With our teams needs, we may benefit from moving down for more picks. Can anyone tell me more about this point guard on Wichita?


Image
User avatar
KnicksGod
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 46,559
And1: 10,551
Joined: Oct 10, 2003
   

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#65 » by KnicksGod » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:22 pm

Maybe Frank > Fox. Fox has the right approach to the game and can grow, but not exactly basketball talent oozing out of his pores.

Let's hope we get Dennis.
Image
User avatar
nykballa2k4
RealGM
Posts: 21,461
And1: 2,478
Joined: Jul 26, 2004
Location: Kurt Rhombus is managing the defense...
       

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#66 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:14 pm

J9Starks3 wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
J9Starks3 wrote:
I assume you have Fultz, Ball, Jackson as top 3? I would not be terribly upset with Tatum, Smith or Monk either.


Monk really does not look like my cup of tea. His metrics are pretty bad (short wingspan for his height) and aside from shooting/scoring, his numbers are unimpressive. Fox to me is the Kentucky guy of interest. With our teams needs, we may benefit from moving down for more picks. Can anyone tell me more about this point guard on Wichita?


Image


Shamet looked good. Who will be Phil's annual Wichita draft pick?
Numbers don't lie, people who use them do
What do you think about @kporzee? Karl-Anthony Towns: PorzinGOD does not care or need my opinion for he is a higher life form then all of us.
User avatar
nykballa2k4
RealGM
Posts: 21,461
And1: 2,478
Joined: Jul 26, 2004
Location: Kurt Rhombus is managing the defense...
       

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#67 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:18 pm

battabing10 wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
J9Starks3 wrote:
I assume you have Fultz, Ball, Jackson as top 3? I would not be terribly upset with Tatum, Smith or Monk either.


Monk really does not look like my cup of tea. His metrics are pretty bad (short wingspan for his height) and aside from shooting/scoring, his numbers are unimpressive. Fox to me is the Kentucky guy of interest. With our teams needs, we may benefit from moving down for more picks. Can anyone tell me more about this point guard on Wichita?


i think monk look okay. quick feet and he looks like he got long arms to me. willing defender too.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2017/

His arms didn't look deficient to me, but he also (being young) clearly is not there with the muscle mass yet. What concerns me is that we want a player who will play well and create for KP. At 2.3 apg, I just don't know if he will pair well.
Numbers don't lie, people who use them do
What do you think about @kporzee? Karl-Anthony Towns: PorzinGOD does not care or need my opinion for he is a higher life form then all of us.
User avatar
battabing10
Pro Prospect
Posts: 890
And1: 265
Joined: Jan 04, 2017
Location: Antarctica
     

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#68 » by battabing10 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:38 pm

posters mention josh jackson as possible pick. first off he got a hitch in his shot and thats a big big no-no. also he look like he need another year in school. only 6.8 i don't see a nba ready player. also he got off court issues?
Melo: be a great 6th man or be DBDM [deadbeat Dad Melo] (thanks blueNorange)-- Knicks move forward either way. Tatum and Monk will disappoint.
frothbrain
Starter
Posts: 2,269
And1: 651
Joined: Dec 04, 2011

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#69 » by frothbrain » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:39 pm

battabing10 wrote:posters mention josh jackson as possible pick. first off he got a hitch in his shot and thats a big big no-no. also he look like he need another year in school. only 6.8 i don't see a nba ready player. also he got off court issues?


he's also the oldest freshman. a year older than most.
Sprewell4Three
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,918
And1: 1,491
Joined: Apr 08, 2011

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#70 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:49 pm

I honestly would trade the pick if we're left with Monk.
User avatar
battabing10
Pro Prospect
Posts: 890
And1: 265
Joined: Jan 04, 2017
Location: Antarctica
     

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#71 » by battabing10 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:03 pm

haven't watched any ncaa until today. i seen two games and for the knicks i don't like monk or fox or jackson tbh. i wanna see tatum from duke and ball later tho.
Melo: be a great 6th man or be DBDM [deadbeat Dad Melo] (thanks blueNorange)-- Knicks move forward either way. Tatum and Monk will disappoint.
Sprewell4Three
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,918
And1: 1,491
Joined: Apr 08, 2011

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#72 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:11 pm

battabing10 wrote:haven't watched any ncaa until today. i seen two games and for the knicks i don't like monk or fox or jackson tbh. i wanna see tatum from duke and ball later tho.


Jackson will not drop lol.
Possibly have a chance getting Fox. But he might go top 5. He has elite end to end speed.
User avatar
KnicksGod
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 46,559
And1: 10,551
Joined: Oct 10, 2003
   

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#73 » by KnicksGod » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:15 pm

I don't think Ball is can't miss. Why is this considered such a deep draft again?
Image
Thugger HBC
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 42,249
And1: 9,623
Joined: Jan 14, 2011
Location: Defense+efficient offense=titles...what do you have?
       

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#74 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:26 pm

These opponents have some real good gameplans, nobody is going off on anyone for the most part. Hard to judge the prospects in situations like this.

I wouldn't be too judgmental based on the play so far.
If winning matters, the role shouldn't.....the results should.

The ...02% of the fanbse be like...http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1542565&start=140#start_here
Coeur
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,353
And1: 138
Joined: Jan 18, 2016

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#75 » by Coeur » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:32 pm

KnicksGod wrote:I don't think Ball is can't miss. Why is this considered such a deep draft again?

I think it's because there's 5-6 guys that could go in almost any order 1-5 or 5. And another 5-6 guys that could go in almost any order 6-10. Draft order is nowhere near as set as most people seem to think right now. I don't think I'd like this draft 15-30 and even 2nd round looks thin imo
User avatar
Red Vines
RealGM
Posts: 28,366
And1: 5,085
Joined: Jun 26, 2005
Location: Bermuda Triangle
     

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#76 » by Red Vines » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:01 pm

Jackson will go top 4 for sure.
Sprewell4Three
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,918
And1: 1,491
Joined: Apr 08, 2011

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#77 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:06 pm

KnicksGod wrote:I don't think Ball is can't miss. Why is this considered such a deep draft again?


JKidd with an ability to score. He's a true PG that makes the players around him better. Fultz , Ball and Jackson..Is the draft order.
Sprewell4Three
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,918
And1: 1,491
Joined: Apr 08, 2011

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#78 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:07 pm

Red Vines wrote:Jackson will go top 4 for sure.


Yeah, it was funny how there were guys bashing him earlier in the game. Seriously? :nonono:
The skills , tools and length are there. He passes the eye test for me. Should have that Greek Freek impact, making offensive and defensive plays.
Thugger HBC
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 42,249
And1: 9,623
Joined: Jan 14, 2011
Location: Defense+efficient offense=titles...what do you have?
       

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#79 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:24 pm

I know Mags has got to enjoying this. :D
If winning matters, the role shouldn't.....the results should.

The ...02% of the fanbse be like...http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1542565&start=140#start_here
User avatar
battabing10
Pro Prospect
Posts: 890
And1: 265
Joined: Jan 04, 2017
Location: Antarctica
     

Re: GT: March Madness // NCAA Tournament Talk 

Post#80 » by battabing10 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:38 pm

i thought bridges looked solid.
Melo: be a great 6th man or be DBDM [deadbeat Dad Melo] (thanks blueNorange)-- Knicks move forward either way. Tatum and Monk will disappoint.

Return to New York Knicks