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Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:57 am
by Yankeeknickfan
Lonzo and KP please happen
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:59 am
by Jay10
Yankeeknickfan wrote:Lonzo and KP please happen
He looks like the Road Runner when he's leading the break.
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:03 am
by Knickerbock
Can't wait for that Kentucky vs UCLA game...
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:10 am
by Mecca
Knickerbock wrote:Can't wait for that Kentucky vs UCLA game...
UCLA plays no D. Cinci is an elite defensive team. Don't get excited for that game yet.
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:11 am
by ibraheim718
Fox > Ball
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:11 am
by DOT
SMAC-K wrote:K-DOT wrote:SMAC-K wrote:
2nd best team in the East with the chance at landing the No.1 overall pick in a stacked draft
Young core that gets along and has fun playing together
Play unselfish style of basketball
Ton of Money
The Celtics will be a hot spot destination for free agents whether we like it or not
Except for max free agents, did you not see the CBA changes? Gordon Hayward isn't gonna give up over 30 million dollars to go to Boston
Also, "young core?"
Thomas, Bradley, Crowder, and Horford are all 27 or older (Horford is 31! and they're paying him almost 30 mil a year for the next 3 years)
The only "young" players they have are Smart (role player) and Brown, who has a long way to go
And after next year, both Thomas and Bradley's contracts are up, and both of them are gonna command 25 mil +, so if they don't sign anyone this offseason, they're screwed for cap space
Not to say that the Celtics aren't in a good spot or anything, but Ainge is far from a genius, and they have a lot of work to do to become a contender
25-30 are the average prime years for players, so yes they are still young considering everybody except Horford is currently in their prime years.
As far as players leaving money,
the Celtics have a ton of cap space, what part of that are you not understanding? They will have about 35+ million in cap space and can bid high and overpay annual salary.
And guess what? Even if they strike out on max free agents they can still sign complementary pieces to keep building their core and they still have the Brooklyn Nets 2018 draft pick to add to that next year. Lebron is getting older each year and the Cavs window is slowly closing, just in time for the Celtics young core to take over the Eastern Conference. Ainge is a genius!
Not only are they keeping the fans happy by winning and making the playoffs and making profit but they are collecting top 5 pick after top 5 pick after top 5 pick in the process. What teams do you know of that are able to say they are the 2nd best team in their conference, yet still collect a top 5 pick for 3 years straight? How is that not genius?
The max the Jazz can offer Hayward is more than the max the Celtics can, what part of that are you not understanding?
And by the time their top picks come into their primes, all the current core players will either be old or not on the team, what part of that are you not understanding?
Ainge took advantage of Billy King not knowing what he was doing, what part of that are you not understanding?
Picks are overvalued. Ainge has to turn those picks into good players before I give him credit, what part of that are you not understanding?
Oh, wait, I just remembered.
You're the guy who thinks Lauri Markannen is already better than KP, obviously reasoning with you is out of the picture
Never mind
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:12 am
by Mecca
ibraheim718 wrote:Fox > Ball
Not sure if I'd say that yet, but I think Fox deserves to be in the same category as Ball, Fultz, DSJ. Right now, I'm gaga for Fox at 6.
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:14 am
by Obi-One
I switched Baylor out for Villanova for the final four at the last second -_-
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:14 am
by ibraheim718
Love that D cinci is running.
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:14 am
by ibraheim718
Mecca wrote:ibraheim718 wrote:Fox > Ball
Not sure if I'd say that yet, but I think Fox deserves to be in the same category as Ball, Fultz, DSJ. Right now, I'm gaga for Fox at 6.
He'll be a better pro.
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:15 am
by ibraheim718
Ball way too nonchalant right now. You have to be able to know when to press.
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:16 am
by 3toheadmelo
lol @ fox > ball
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:17 am
by ibraheim718
Such a nice cross court pass by Ball.
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:18 am
by Mecca
ibraheim718 wrote:Mecca wrote:ibraheim718 wrote:Fox > Ball
Not sure if I'd say that yet, but I think Fox deserves to be in the same category as Ball, Fultz, DSJ. Right now, I'm gaga for Fox at 6.
He'll be a better pro.
I think both will be fine players. I would take Ball over Fox still, but I love Fox, and think he's a top 3 pick in most drafts.
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:18 am
by ibraheim718
3toheadmelo wrote:lol @ fox > ball
You wanna have your opinion right??? Why can't I have mine?
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:20 am
by Fat
i wish ball had a pull up midrange game some of this stuff he gets away with in college aint gonna cut it in the NBA.
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:21 am
by Yankeeknickfan
Ya, I don't see fox >ball
Ball has a higher BBIQ, and is a better distributor,
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:21 am
by 3toheadmelo
ibraheim718 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:lol @ fox > ball
You wanna have your opinion right??? Why can't I have mine?
cause you won't let me have mine
you forgot what you started yesterday? now i'm going to do the same to you.
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:22 am
by ibraheim718
Mecca wrote:ibraheim718 wrote:Mecca wrote:
Not sure if I'd say that yet, but I think Fox deserves to be in the same category as Ball, Fultz, DSJ. Right now, I'm gaga for Fox at 6.
He'll be a better pro.
I think both will be fine players. I would take Ball over Fox still, but I love Fox, and think he's a top 3 pick in most drafts.
Fox's potential is through the roof. Picture him with the ball KP on one wing another shooter on the other and high Pick and Roll with Fox. He would have so many yaks per game. John Wall is John Wall because of his speed first and foremost.. it helps him defend.. helps him finish. I like Fox's speed with the ball and I love his defensive potential. And he's crafty. He could be like a souped up version of Mike Conley.
Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:22 am
by Obi-One
Welsh is automatic on that midrange j