Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)

Amsterdam · Post #21 » by **Amsterdam** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:11 pm

magnumt wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
Amsterdam wrote:
At #7 over Robert Williams?

I have not seen Robert Williams enough to be honest. Intruging player for sure. Not sure he's worthy of a #7 pick either though

I'm taking Monk OR Frank in a HEARTBEAT over any big man in the Lotto of a PG/Wing heavy Draft. Didn't we learn our lesson in 2010?!

--Mags

Yes we did, when the team picked Porzingis over Mudiay. :wink:

Sethaholic16 · Post #22 » by **Sethaholic16** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:11 pm

http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2017/03/10/college-prospect-rating-cpr-version-3/

According to this Analytics site...there are 6 potential All Stars in this draft.

A CPR of 15 and above indicates Superstar
CPR between 10-15 is all star level

Ranked by CPR:
1) Monk 19
2) Fultz 14
3) Ball 14
4) Swanigan 13
5) Tatum 12
6) DSJ 11

It's interesting that Monk topped everyone with a score of 19...which slots him right between Steph Curry (CPR of 21) and Kevin Love (CPR of 17), Hassan Whiteside (CPR 17).

Harry Giles, unsurprisingly, scores a CPR of 1.

Post #23 » by **Marcus** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:11 pm

whocares1 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Phish Tank wrote:Guards, please

With varying degrees of happiness, I'm good with any PG, SG, or SF projected to go in the lotto.

What do you think about promising young guard/wing Jonathan Isaac? I believe he plays for Florida I'm not sure if you've previously stated your opinion on him before.

Post #24 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:12 pm

magnumt wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
Amsterdam wrote:
At #7 over Robert Williams?

I have not seen Robert Williams enough to be honest. Intruging player for sure. Not sure he's worthy of a #7 pick either though

I'm taking Monk OR Frank in a HEARTBEAT over any big man in the Lotto of a PG/Wing heavy Draft. Didn't we learn our lesson in 2010?!

--Mags

Yeah, I do get that Jordan Hill vibe too. I just don't know enough about Mr. Williams.

I am hesitant on Monk though. Beast in college for sure, just not crazy about the impact that player can have in the NBA...At least for where the Knicks may be picking

Bill Pidto · Post #25 » by **Bill Pidto** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:16 pm

Just imagine the night of the lottery, and then the night of the draft. Gonna be on pins and needles for both. Can't wait though!

Dkillanyk4lyf · Post #26 » by **Dkillanyk4lyf** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:19 pm

Dsjr or bust for me since i know for a fact the top 3 will be out of reach for us.

Post #27 » by **magnumt** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:22 pm

Amsterdam wrote:
magnumt wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
I have not seen Robert Williams enough to be honest. Intruging player for sure. Not sure he's worthy of a #7 pick either though

I'm taking Monk OR Frank in a HEARTBEAT over any big man in the Lotto of a PG/Wing heavy Draft. Didn't we learn our lesson in 2010?!

--Mags

Yes we did, when the team picked Porzingis over Mudiay.

It wasn't a PG/Wing heavy Draft in 2015. It was Big Man heavy and light on quality PG depth.

Also, notice I said 2010 Draft.

--Mags

shtolky · Post #28 » by **shtolky** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:22 pm

Bill Pidto wrote:Just imagine the night of the lottery, and then the night of the draft. Gonna be on pins and needles for both. Can't wait though!

This board is going to explode on both nights.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #29 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:23 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:Dsjr or bust for me since i know for a fact the top 3 will be out of reach for us.

What does your crystal ball say? You know, the one that told you that Melo would no longer be a Knick after the trade deadline. :lol:

Post #30 » by **magnumt** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:25 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
magnumt wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
I have not seen Robert Williams enough to be honest. Intruging player for sure. Not sure he's worthy of a #7 pick either though

I'm taking Monk OR Frank in a HEARTBEAT over any big man in the Lotto of a PG/Wing heavy Draft. Didn't we learn our lesson in 2010?!

--Mags

Yeah, I do get that Jordan Hill vibe too. I just don't know enough about Mr. Williams.

I am hesitant on Monk though. Beast in college for sure, just not crazy about the impact that player can have in the NBA...At least for where the Knicks may be picking

I get the caution. But truth be told, they all have risk with them, even my beloved Josh Jackson. :lol:

Funny thing is, and I mentioned this in the Draft thread 3rd Edition, Hill had BETTER numbers in college than A LOT of these higher ranked Big Men prospects. :lol:

--Mags

Post #31 » by **magnumt** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:27 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:Dsjr or bust for me since i know for a fact the top 3 will be out of reach for us.

Nig*a, you change your tune every fuqn hour! :roll:

--Mags

Dkillanyk4lyf · Post #32 » by **Dkillanyk4lyf** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:36 pm

magnumt wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:Dsjr or bust for me since i know for a fact the top 3 will be out of reach for us.

Nig*a, you change your tune every fuqn hour!

--Mags

Its really hard to nail down which prospects fit the triangle.

I dont think dsjr does but its my hope that phil will go bpa instead of triangle fit(which i highly doubt).

Which explains why i keep changing up my pick.

Dkillanyk4lyf · Post #33 » by **Dkillanyk4lyf** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:39 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:Dsjr or bust for me since i know for a fact the top 3 will be out of reach for us.

What does your crystal ball say? You know, the one that told you that Melo would no longer be a Knick after the trade deadline.

I reallllyyyy thought he would ruin the tank though.

Thats the only reason i wanted him gone even if it only was for a second round pick.

whocares1 · Post #34 » by **whocares1** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:45 pm

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1453663&start=80

Draft board has Smith dropping to us to the 7 spot. Has Josh Jackson dropping to 5th and Tatum now up to #3.

selenium · Post #35 » by **selenium** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:47 pm

Ive watched some Dennis Smith Jr tape.

He's a talent, but i'm not particularly blown away or impressed that he should be taken top 3. Certainly not over Ball.

I like that he can go left down the lane.
Love that he can finish at the rim.
Hate that he didnt play in a heavy PNR offense
Hate that he loves the iso on the wing/3ptline with the pullup jumper off 1-2 dribbles.

I just dont see a PG tbh. He's a SG

shtolky · Post #36 » by **shtolky** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:48 pm

I just love that we are going to get one of these guys. Such a nice surprise. Going into this season I think a lot of us felt we would probably contend for one of the back end playoff spots, which would have been meh. Knowing we are going to add a youthful piece in one of the deeper drafts in recent memory is very exciting. When was the last time we had two (three if you count Willy) under 22 year old studs on the same team? Never?

Sark · Post #37 » by **Sark** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:51 pm

Sethaholic16 wrote:http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2017/03/10/college-prospect-rating-cpr-version-3/

According to this Analytics site...there are 6 potential All Stars in this draft.

A CPR of 15 and above indicates Superstar
CPR between 10-15 is all star level

Ranked by CPR:
1) Monk 19
2) Fultz 14
3) Ball 14
4) Swanigan 13
5) Tatum 12
6) DSJ 11

It's interesting that Monk topped everyone with a score of 19...which slots him right between Steph Curry (CPR of 21) and Kevin Love (CPR of 17), Hassan Whiteside (CPR 17).

Harry Giles, unsurprisingly, scores a CPR of 1.

Interesting. Because the player I want most after Frank Ntilikina, and Markelle Fultz is Malik Monk.

Dkillanyk4lyf · Post #38 » by **Dkillanyk4lyf** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:55 pm

whocares1 wrote:viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1453663&start=80

Draft board has Smith dropping to us to the 7 spot. Has Josh Jackson dropping to 5th and Tatum now up to #3.

Who is this guy??

Post #39 » by **magnumt** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:55 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
magnumt wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:Dsjr or bust for me since i know for a fact the top 3 will be out of reach for us.

Nig*a, you change your tune every fuqn hour!

--Mags

Its really hard to nail down which prospects fit the triangle.

I dont think dsjr does but its my hope that phil will go bpa instead of triangle fit(which i highly doubt).

Which explains why i keep changing up my pick.

Dude, Monk, DSJ, Tatum, Ball, Jackson, Markhannen, etc all fit the Triangle (if that's the way we go).

See. Not hard at all.

--Mags

selenium · Post #40 » by **selenium** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:57 pm

Monk is very interesting prospect.

The first thing that jumped out at me is how high he gets off the ground on his jumpers. Its scary because a lot of guys who do that (e.g. Westbrook, Kidd gilchrist) tend not to be great shooters.