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Re: Hypothetical: Knicks get Ball 

Post#141 » by DaKnicksAreBack » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:15 am

Melo's hinting at leaving........AGAIN

This dude is beyond annoying at this point. Just go melo for God's sake. And STFU while you're at it.
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Re: Hypothetical: Knicks get Ball 

Post#142 » by Reign23 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:16 am

Deeeez Knicks wrote:No matter who we draft we should try to trade Melo

if we finally land a PG that creates for others why should we trade melo then...
draft ball
keep melo, lee, noah, lance as your vets
develop kp, willy and maybe baker
sign another defense first FA

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Re: Hypothetical: Knicks get Ball 

Post#143 » by DaKnicksAreBack » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:18 am

Reign23 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:No matter who we draft we should try to trade Melo

if we finally land a PG that creates for others why should we trade melo then...
draft ball
keep melo, lee, noah, lance as your vets
develop kp, willy and maybe baker
sign another defense first FA

playoffs next season and bright future ahead.


Melo's not that good anymore and he's only getting worse. It's passed time to cut the cord.
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Re: Hypothetical: Knicks get Ball 

Post#144 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:19 am

The Knicks have been in Los Angeles since Saturday ahead of Monday's game.

“Sometimes you need to get in a new environment and feel a different type of energy and vibe,’’ Anthony said.

Anthony was referring to his team, but he probably could have been talking about his career, too.

“Over the years, I’ve grown to like it,’’ Anthony said. “I think as you get older, you start looking for places you can relax and enjoy and be good over the years. L.A. has been a place where my family feels comfortable at. We’ve been here for seven years now.’’

Anthony was asked about the Knicks not being a playoff team this season.

“I’ve come to grips with that,’’ Anthony said. “I had times to think about that over how many weeks it’s been, trying to utilize time to clear my mind and be at peace with it — our situation.”

Asked if he thinks if it will ever happen in L.A., Anthony said: “Honestly I think about it a lot. I try to put everything in perspective. I think about it all. I think about here. I think about it. The postseason. My teammates. I think about everything. I think about it a lot and put everything in perspective and hear other people’s take on it. At the end of the day, it’s on me.’’
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Re: RE: Re: Hypothetical: Knicks get Ball 

Post#145 » by K-DOT » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:21 am

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MaseInYourFace wrote:I'm still not sold on Ball. Y'all overrate the college game. A lot of it doesn't translate to NBA.


What in his game is not translatable?

I have doubts about his ability to create space in the NBA, his pull up game, and overall scoring ability
He's behind Fultz and Jackson on my board

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Re: Hypothetical: Knicks get Ball 

Post#146 » by spree8 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:23 am

FirePjax wrote:Melo's hinting at leaving........AGAIN

This dude is beyond annoying at this point. Just go melo for God's sake. And STFU while you're at it.



Yup... he "likes LA". Phil needs to have some makeup sex with Jeanie n get a deal done with the LAL. Get us somethin good Phil !!
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Post#147 » by Sprewell4Three » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:25 am

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Sprewell4Three wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:I'm still not sold on Ball. Y'all overrate the college game. A lot of it doesn't translate to NBA.


What in his game is not translatable?

I have doubts about his ability to create space in the NBA, his pull up game, and overall scoring ability
He's behind Fultz and Jackson on my board

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That's reasonable but the guy is shooting damn near 55% from the field. And shooting 40% from three. The guy has an unorthodox shot but he can shoot. He's about 6'7 and he will be able to shoot over most pgs in the league.
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Re: Hypothetical: Knicks get Ball 

Post#148 » by MaseInYourFace » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:25 am

Sprewell4Three wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:I'm still not sold on Ball. Y'all overrate the college game. A lot of it doesn't translate to NBA.


What in his game is not translatable?


We don't have to agree.

I think he's gonna really struggle offensively in nba. He's dominating in the college game but the nba is a very different animal espcially with how deep the guard position is right now.
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Post#149 » by MaseInYourFace » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:26 am

Sprewell4Three wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
What in his game is not translatable?

I have doubts about his ability to create space in the NBA, his pull up game, and overall scoring ability
He's behind Fultz and Jackson on my board

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That's reasonable but the guy is shooting damn near 55% from the field. And shooting 40% from three. The guy has an unorthodox shot but he can shoot. He's about 6'7 and he will be able to shoot over most pgs in the league.


Teams will put their shooting guard on him.
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Re: Hypothetical: Knicks get Ball 

Post#150 » by SARGO127 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:30 am

Melo and Lee for Deng, Mozgov, Ingram, future 1st
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Re: Hypothetical: Knicks get Ball 

Post#151 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:35 am

Reign23 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:No matter who we draft we should try to trade Melo

if we finally land a PG that creates for others why should we trade melo then...
draft ball
keep melo, lee, noah, lance as your vets
develop kp, willy and maybe baker
sign another defense first FA

playoffs next season and bright future ahead.

I feel you. melo would be fun to watch with a real point guard and we should definitely make the playoffs but is playoffs enough for melo? he should be on a team contending for a ring at this point in his career. i really don't want him to leave but it's probably his best choice right now. it's time for him to get a ring
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Re: Hypothetical: Knicks get Ball 

Post#152 » by Icandoallthings » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:37 am

Billy Goat wrote:
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Melo's on a max deal with a NTC. You're not getting value back there. He's a total sunk cost with total control on where he goes. The Knicks are staring at a buyout situation if he's not willing to budge on destinations or leaving at all.


Carmelo Anthony is not a sunk cost. That's just an idiotic statement. Buyout? Why on earth would the Knicks buy him out? Because they're morons? Anthony not being Lebron James or the same guy from his peak doesn't mean he's absolute crap. He may not net great value but let's not get carried away to the other extreme.


Of course he's a sunk cost. Just because you think he has value doesnt make it true. Add on the fact he has a no trade and a kicker...you're basically staring into the abyss here the next two seasons. The Knicks are obviously not winning anything within the next two years if he stays. Getting other guys shots and opportunities is in the best interest of the team imo. He dominates the ball and doesnt do anything else really well other than take shots. This isnt something franchises are looking to deal for.


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A sunk cost is a cost that has already been incurred and thus cannot be recovered. A sunk cost differs from future costs that a business may face, such as decisions about inventory purchase costs or product pricing.
The sunk-cost fallacy is when you tell yourself that you can’t quit because of all that time or money you spent. We shouldn’t fall for this fallacy, but we do it all the time.

Is Melo inventory or the product? No I won't fall for it!
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Post#153 » by K-DOT » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:38 am

Sprewell4Three wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
What in his game is not translatable?

I have doubts about his ability to create space in the NBA, his pull up game, and overall scoring ability
He's behind Fultz and Jackson on my board

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That's reasonable but the guy is shooting damn near 55% from the field. And shooting 40% from three. The guy has an unorthodox shot but he can shoot. He's about 6'7 and he will be able to shoot over most pgs in the league.

I think he'll be fine, I'm just more sold on Fultz and Jackson at this point, Ball's question marks are just a little bigger than the two of them

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Post#154 » by Sprewell4Three » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:39 am

MaseInYourFace wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
K-DOT wrote:I have doubts about his ability to create space in the NBA, his pull up game, and overall scoring ability
He's behind Fultz and Jackson on my board

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That's reasonable but the guy is shooting damn near 55% from the field. And shooting 40% from three. The guy has an unorthodox shot but he can shoot. He's about 6'7 and he will be able to shoot over most pgs in the league.


Teams will put their shooting guard on him.


Not if his teammate is Devin Booker and or D'Angelo Russell (moved to sg last night). Very high probability he plays with one or the other.
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Post#155 » by Sprewell4Three » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:40 am

K-DOT wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
K-DOT wrote:I have doubts about his ability to create space in the NBA, his pull up game, and overall scoring ability
He's behind Fultz and Jackson on my board

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That's reasonable but the guy is shooting damn near 55% from the field. And shooting 40% from three. The guy has an unorthodox shot but he can shoot. He's about 6'7 and he will be able to shoot over most pgs in the league.

I think he'll be fine, I'm just more sold on Fultz and Jackson at this point, Ball's question marks are just a little bigger than the two of them

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It also depends what you want though. Fultz could be a Dame Lillard type of player and Ball could be JKidd type of player.
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Re: Hypothetical: Knicks get Ball 

Post#156 » by Marty McFly » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:50 am

FirePjax wrote:Melo's hinting at leaving........AGAIN

This dude is beyond annoying at this point. Just go melo for God's sake. And STFU while you're at it.

so, the anthony family still has a home in la. interesting. lolclippers.
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Post#157 » by sushibear » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:10 am

Marty McFly wrote:
FirePjax wrote:Melo's hinting at leaving........AGAIN

This dude is beyond annoying at this point. Just go melo for God's sake. And STFU while you're at it.

so, the anthony family still has a home in la. interesting. lolclippers.


problem is that the clips dont really want him. doc wont trade sheit for him and this isnt denver melo anymore.
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Post#158 » by moocow007 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:13 am

Anthony hasn't hinted at anything. The media has.
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Post#159 » by moocow007 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:13 am

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Marty McFly wrote:
FirePjax wrote:Melo's hinting at leaving........AGAIN

This dude is beyond annoying at this point. Just go melo for God's sake. And STFU while you're at it.

so, the anthony family still has a home in la. interesting. lolclippers.


problem is that the clips dont really want him. doc wont trade sheit for him and this isnt denver melo anymore.


? The problem is the Clippers have absolute **** to trade other than their big 3. Even Phil Jackson was apparently smart enough to realize that a package consisting of some combination of Jamal Crawford, JJ Reddick and Austin Rivers...with no draft picks...was crap.
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Post#160 » by moocow007 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:18 am

Billy Goat wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
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Melo's on a max deal with a NTC. You're not getting value back there. He's a total sunk cost with total control on where he goes. The Knicks are staring at a buyout situation if he's not willing to budge on destinations or leaving at all.


Carmelo Anthony is not a sunk cost. That's just an idiotic statement. Buyout? Why on earth would the Knicks buy him out? Because they're morons? Anthony not being Lebron James or the same guy from his peak doesn't mean he's absolute crap. He may not net great value but let's not get carried away to the other extreme.


Of course he's a sunk cost. Just because you think he has value doesnt make it true. Add on the fact he has a no trade and a kicker...you're basically staring into the abyss here the next two seasons. The Knicks are obviously not winning anything within the next two years if he stays. Getting other guys shots and opportunities is in the best interest of the team imo. He dominates the ball and doesnt do anything else really well other than take shots. This isnt something franchises are looking to deal for.


Getting what other guys shots and opportunities? The Knicks have Porzingis. That's it. What other guys are you thinking can actually do anything? How about if they just hire all of us and give us a shot? Anthony doesn't do anything well other than take shots? You do realize that you actually have to make baskets to win games right? What Anthony is doing now is what he's always been doing and what A LOT OF OTHER players have been doing that have been valuable for teams that want to win. The main difference is that, unlike many of the other "shot takers" he's had absolutely **** to play with. And since he's been on the Knicks the system has been ****. Tell me one other offensive player of his caliber that has had as little help in a system that not only doesn't fit him but just about anyone else on the team? There is no need to dump him for nothing. If they can't get anything for him then there's no reason to trade him.
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