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2018 Draft Thread (UPDATED POLL)

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Luka Doncic
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Marvin Bagley
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Michael Porter Jr
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Mohamed Bamba
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DeAndre Ayton
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Hamidou Diallo
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Kevin Knox
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Colin Sexton
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Miles Bridges
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Isaac Bonga
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Post#461 » by K-DOT » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:40 pm

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DaGawd wrote:For a guy who isn't a number 1 scoring option to average 18 ppg last season as arguably the 3rd option is pretty damn good... I think KP's potential to be the primary go to scorer is really underrated



Thats the reason why he was able to score 18 a game.The attention was not on him like that. So he is not underrated in potential as the primary Guy as KP has not faced #1 scorer defense all season long and the verdict is still out on how good he can be as lead Dog in his third year. KP being the go to scorer and getting full attention of a defense that number can easily dip. Its not the same ball game when all eyes are on you.

Did some math, in 6 games without Melo KP averaged 14.7/5.7/1.3 on 45% shooting, 15% 3pt shooting

He averaged less points, but the biggest reason for that was his bad 3pt shooting. He took significantly less 3pt shots, he averaged around 5 per game for the season, but only slightly over 2 per game without Melo

And about a rebound and a half less per game

So there is a drop off, and Melo for sure helps him, but it's not too dramatic, and has more to do with most of those games coming during KP's cold stretch

It's also probably a huge adjustment not having the focal point of your offense for a game, but if we make KP the focal point straight off next year, he should be good
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread 

Post#462 » by IllmaticHandler » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:47 pm

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DaGawd wrote:For a guy who isn't a number 1 scoring option to average 18 ppg last season as arguably the 3rd option is pretty damn good... I think KP's potential to be the primary go to scorer is really underrated



Thats the reason why he was able to score 18 a game.The attention was not on him like that. So he is not underrated in potential as the primary Guy as KP has not faced #1 scorer defense all season long and the verdict is still out on how good he can be as lead Dog in his third year. KP being the go to scorer and getting full attention of a defense that number can easily dip. Its not the same ball game when all eyes are on you.

Did some math, in 6 games without Melo KP averaged 14.7/5.7/1.3 on 45% shooting, 15% 3pt shooting

He averaged less points, but the biggest reason for that was his bad 3pt shooting. He took significantly less 3pt shots, he averaged around 5 per game for the season, but only slightly over 2 per game without Melo

And about a rebound and a half less per game

So there is a drop off, and Melo for sure helps him, but it's not too dramatic, and has more to do with most of those games coming during KP's cold stretch

It's also probably a huge adjustment not having the focal point of your offense for a game, but if we make KP the focal point straight off next year, he should be good


Again, like I said the verdict is still out. KP also has to prove he has the stamina to maintain a 18+ point avg all season long. It take alot of energy to do it as lead dog. There is alot that he will have to prove to me before saying "he should be good"
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Post#463 » by N Y K » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:18 am

well at least the stage will be set for the year... team knox vs everyone else
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Post#465 » by Rasho Brezec » Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:34 pm

Fran Fraschilla is right. You are what you guard. Doncic will be a point forward that handles playmaking duties.

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Post#466 » by Wolfgang630 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:45 pm

KP is going to hopefully (Melo will be gone hoping) he is a first option player on the offense. He'll get to learn and see for next summer that he needs to have more of a post game.
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Post#467 » by Nyk_Fatboy » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:24 pm

i think sexton/kp could make a dynamic 1 2 punch on offense + Give us a lockdown backcourt with ntilkina/sexton. Knicks still need a guard that can apply pressure on offense and breakdown the defense, sexton is elite in this area and gets to the line frequently and can catch fire from outside. If he proves he can run an offense and become more disciplined he is my guy (outside of the top 5) even though i think he has a good shot at getting in there if things go well.
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Post#468 » by Knickstape1214 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:45 pm

Nyk_Fatboy wrote:i think sexton/kp could make a dynamic 1 2 punch on offense + Give us a lockdown backcourt with ntilkina/sexton. Knicks still need a guard that can apply pressure on offense and breakdown the defense, sexton is elite in this area and gets to the line frequently and can catch fire from outside. If he proves he can run an offense and become more disciplined he is my guy (outside of the top 5) even though i think he has a good shot at getting in there if things go well.


Sexton is going to rise I think on draft boards as the season progresses. He might be the most competitive player in the class, has shown he actually has good vision (even though he's a score-first PG), super athletic with fantastic body control, and he defends hard with super active hands and feet. I still have Doncic ahead of him, but you're spot on with him being a great fit for the team.

Sexton is IMO the guy who's probably going to "learn" the most this year from playing in college. MPJr will be given the keys from day 1 and will be allowed to do what he wants, Knox will be competing against other top guys every day in practice (but IMO he'll just be another cog in Cal's machine), and Ayton will just do what Ayton does. Sexton, on the other hand, will be coached by a super smart PG who was a great defender, a team first guy, super smart, and a great professional. Love his decision to go there. I've seen people question his shot, but his form is far from broken - he just needs more reps. I'd welcome him with open arms if Doncic isn't there when we pick.
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Post#469 » by Nyk_Fatboy » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:55 am

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Nyk_Fatboy wrote:i think sexton/kp could make a dynamic 1 2 punch on offense + Give us a lockdown backcourt with ntilkina/sexton. Knicks still need a guard that can apply pressure on offense and breakdown the defense, sexton is elite in this area and gets to the line frequently and can catch fire from outside. If he proves he can run an offense and become more disciplined he is my guy (outside of the top 5) even though i think he has a good shot at getting in there if things go well.


Sexton is going to rise I think on draft boards as the season progresses. He might be the most competitive player in the class, has shown he actually has good vision (even though he's a score-first PG), super athletic with fantastic body control, and he defends hard with super active hands and feet. I still have Doncic ahead of him, but you're spot on with him being a great fit for the team.

Sexton is IMO the guy who's probably going to "learn" the most this year from playing in college. MPJr will be given the keys from day 1 and will be allowed to do what he wants, Knox will be competing against other top guys every day in practice (but IMO he'll just be another cog in Cal's machine), and Ayton will just do what Ayton does. Sexton, on the other hand, will be coached by a super smart PG who was a great defender, a team first guy, super smart, and a great professional. Love his decision to go there. I've seen people question his shot, but his form is far from broken - he just needs more reps. I'd welcome him with open arms if Doncic isn't there when we pick.


yeah i like his competitiveness too, people say he's too emotional but it seems like thats part of his competitive drive. Heres one of his quotes “I like playing very emotionally,” he said. “I like playing defense. I don’t like anybody scoring on me, so, if I score on you, you’re not scoring on me.” thats another thing the knicks lack "emotion" knicks aint had any real intensity at point guard since john starks. sexton kind of reminds me of him how he wears his emotion on his sleeve i think he's built for new york

i like knox upside but i dont like he chose kentucky their stacked and young. His development will be interesting, cal got his work cut out for himself this season
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread 

Post#470 » by IllmaticHandler » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:05 am

Nyk_Fatboy wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Nyk_Fatboy wrote:i think sexton/kp could make a dynamic 1 2 punch on offense + Give us a lockdown backcourt with ntilkina/sexton. Knicks still need a guard that can apply pressure on offense and breakdown the defense, sexton is elite in this area and gets to the line frequently and can catch fire from outside. If he proves he can run an offense and become more disciplined he is my guy (outside of the top 5) even though i think he has a good shot at getting in there if things go well.


Sexton is going to rise I think on draft boards as the season progresses. He might be the most competitive player in the class, has shown he actually has good vision (even though he's a score-first PG), super athletic with fantastic body control, and he defends hard with super active hands and feet. I still have Doncic ahead of him, but you're spot on with him being a great fit for the team.

Sexton is IMO the guy who's probably going to "learn" the most this year from playing in college. MPJr will be given the keys from day 1 and will be allowed to do what he wants, Knox will be competing against other top guys every day in practice (but IMO he'll just be another cog in Cal's machine), and Ayton will just do what Ayton does. Sexton, on the other hand, will be coached by a super smart PG who was a great defender, a team first guy, super smart, and a great professional. Love his decision to go there. I've seen people question his shot, but his form is far from broken - he just needs more reps. I'd welcome him with open arms if Doncic isn't there when we pick.


yeah i like his competitiveness too, people say he's too emotional but it seems like thats part of his competitive drive. Heres one of his quotes “I like playing very emotionally,” he said. “I like playing defense. I don’t like anybody scoring on me, so, if I score on you, you’re not scoring on me.” thats another thing the knicks lack "emotion" knicks aint had any real intensity at point guard since john starks. sexton kind of reminds me of him how he wears his emotion on his sleeve i think he's built for new york

i like knox upside but i dont like he chose kentucky their stacked and young. His development will be interesting, cal got his work cut out for himself this season



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Post#471 » by xNewYorkMadex » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:20 am

Saw some videos of Luka, need to see more, only thing that concerns me with him is his ability to consistently penetrate and finish in the paint.

Seems very confident in his 3 ball. Love his playmaking ability as a SF/SG. Love his intelligence. But in order to be a perennial all-star, he needs to attack the rim more and get to the ft line. Want to see more of that.

As the tweet by Fran a couple of posts above mines, he need the PnR to get free. He isnt quick enough to just blow by guys 1 on 1. I'd look for him to try and develop the Kobe fadeaway in order to be effective in iso situations. He has the size, shot, and passing ability to have that in his arsenal.
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Post#472 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:05 pm

Bagley announcing decision tonight

11 pm eastern time on sports center
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Post#473 » by 2010 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:52 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Bagley announcing decision tonight

11 pm eastern time on sports center


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Post#474 » by frothbrain » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:02 pm

sexton = baron davis/steve francis/stephon marbury
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Post#475 » by N Y K » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:55 pm

isn't mr knox the 4th guy in on this? lol... that laugh has me in tears right now...

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Post#476 » by Besart19 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:04 am

3toheadmelo wrote:Bagley announcing decision tonight

11 pm eastern time on sports center



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Post#477 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:28 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Bagley announcing decision tonight

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what decision?!

If he's gonna play this season and where he will play at

If he's playing this season, he might be the #1 prospect of the draft. So this is big for us
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Post#478 » by fatalogic » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:29 am

3toheadmelo wrote:Bagley announcing decision tonight

11 pm eastern time on sports center

Doesn't the NCAA have to approve his reclassification first? I mean I hope it goes through because it gives us a better shot at some of the top talent but I don't want to get to excited especially if the NCAA can veto his decision.
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Post#479 » by Besart19 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:32 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:Bagley announcing decision tonight

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what decision?!

If he's gonna play this season and where he will play at

If he's playing this season, he might be the #1 prospect of the draft. So this is big for us


With Melo out and THJ in, who you think is the better fit?

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Post#480 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:33 am

fatalogic wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Bagley announcing decision tonight

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Doesn't the NCAA have to approve his reclassification first? I mean I hope it goes through because it gives us a better shot at some of the top talent but I don't want to get to excited especially if the NCAA can veto his decision.

He's gonna announce it tonight if it went through
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