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bigtimeRC3 · Post #1081 » by **bigtimeRC3** » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:59 pm

Frank will have a longer career than Dennis smith jr. Guaranteed. Smith had acl tears. We have seen point guards with these tears don't last long.

Dr. Detfink · Post #1082 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:02 pm

Listen, I hope MSG continues to pay for fake news. I want the ENTIRE NBA to underestimate this kid kind of how Porzingis was downplayed his rookie season.

JXL · Post #1083 » by **JXL** » Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:21 pm

bigtimeRC3 wrote:Frank will have a longer career than Dennis smith jr. Guaranteed. Smith had acl tears. We have seen point guards with these tears don't last long.

I don't see his career will project to Rose post-ACL, I see Smith's career more to Steve Francis, ceiling is an athletic Kevin Johnson.

DrCoach · Post #1084 » by **DrCoach** » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:12 pm

bigtimeRC3 wrote:Frank will have a longer career than Dennis smith jr. Guaranteed. Smith had acl tears. We have seen point guards with these tears don't last long.

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Why, why must you jinx it.

Just support our guy without trashing another

Ignitowsky · Post #1085 » by **Ignitowsky** » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:13 pm

Even before I stsrted obsesdively watching all the vifeos of Frank that I could find, I knew we made a good decision when I saw this hem.

At Smith’s introductory news conference with the Mavericks in Dallas on Friday, he was asked a question about his defense. He said, “I want to learn exactly how to play defense. That’s not something that we were really pressed about last year."

Frank is going to make a lot of opposing guards crazy. His defense reminds me of Clyde's.

HarthorneWingo · Post #1086 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:48 pm

JXL wrote:
bigtimeRC3 wrote:Frank will have a longer career than Dennis smith jr. Guaranteed. Smith had acl tears. We have seen point guards with these tears don't last long.

I don't see his career will project to Rose post-ACL, I see Smith's career more to Steve Francis, ceiling is an athletic Kevin Johnson.

I don't think Smith will ever be the kind of playmaker KJ was. KJ was special.

Post #1087 » by **DOT** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:48 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
JXL wrote:
bigtimeRC3 wrote:Frank will have a longer career than Dennis smith jr. Guaranteed. Smith had acl tears. We have seen point guards with these tears don't last long.

I don't see his career will project to Rose post-ACL, I see Smith's career more to Steve Francis, ceiling is an athletic Kevin Johnson.

I don't think Smith will ever be the kind of playmaker KJ was. KJ was special.

Was also pretty damn athletic too

Proof:

Watch on YouTube

Wolfgang630 · Post #1088 » by **Wolfgang630** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:26 am

Ignitowsky wrote:Even before I stsrted obsesdively watching all the vifeos of Frank that I could find, I knew we made a good decision when I saw this hem.

At Smith’s introductory news conference with the Mavericks in Dallas on Friday, he was asked a question about his defense. He said, “I want to learn exactly how to play defense. That’s not something that we were really pressed about last year."

Frank is going to make a lot of opposing guards crazy. His defense reminds me of Clyde's.

Get ready for Frank to be Clyding and Gliding.

Milk · Post #1089 » by **Milk** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:46 am

Came across this highlight video, I thought it was really well made.

Watch on YouTube

a-French-Fan · Post #1090 » by **a-French-Fan** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:21 am

Yes he is your guy, but also ours! (for France)

But Knicks did a very stupid thing with asking him to come for summer leagues. He ended after the draft (and had to fly to the draft during finals, for a meeting with Knicks befor being drafted). So he got injuried for SL ... good game Knicks ... He needed to rest and I think we all agree with that. After resting a month he could go with France and defending on Heurtel or De Colo during trainings, or even get into last 12 and play a eurobasket... but the Knicks wanted to see him playing against other rookies or low level guys during SL...

So he is your guy, but don't screw up with him again please ^^

Milk · Post #1091 » by **Milk** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:42 am

a-French-Fan wrote:Yes he is your guy, but also ours! (for France)

But Knicks did a very stupid thing with asking him to come for summer leagues. He ended after the draft (and had to fly to the draft during finals, for a meeting with Knicks befor being drafted). So he got injuried for SL ... good game Knicks ... He needed to rest and I think we all agree with that. After resting a month he could go with France and defending on Heurtel or De Colo during trainings, or even get into last 12 and play a eurobasket... but the Knicks wanted to see him playing against other rookies or low level guys during SL...

So he is your guy, but don't screw up with him again please ^^

How did we screw up with him?
He did not get injured during actual Summer League practices/games, he banged his knee with another player during the final game for Strasbourg.
He and his agent wanted to fly over and enjoy the draft process, I don't think the Knicks asked/forced him to.

He's doing great right now training with Chris Brickley (who works with Durant, Melo, Kawhi, CJ McCollum etc) in New York daily.
Which would be much better than defending/training with those role players you mentioned.

Spoiler:

90Knicks · Post #1092 » by **90Knicks** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:43 am

a-French-Fan wrote:Yes he is your guy, but also ours! (for France)

But Knicks did a very stupid thing with asking him to come for summer leagues. He ended after the draft (and had to fly to the draft during finals, for a meeting with Knicks befor being drafted). So he got injuried for SL ... good game Knicks ... He needed to rest and I think we all agree with that. After resting a month he could go with France and defending on Heurtel or De Colo during trainings, or even get into last 12 and play a eurobasket... but the Knicks wanted to see him playing against other rookies or low level guys during SL...

So he is your guy, but don't screw up with him again please ^^

Go eat frogs

Knicksfan20 · Post #1093 » by **Knicksfan20** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:51 am

90Knicks wrote:
a-French-Fan wrote:Yes he is your guy, but also ours! (for France)

But Knicks did a very stupid thing with asking him to come for summer leagues. He ended after the draft (and had to fly to the draft during finals, for a meeting with Knicks befor being drafted). So he got injuried for SL ... good game Knicks ... He needed to rest and I think we all agree with that. After resting a month he could go with France and defending on Heurtel or De Colo during trainings, or even get into last 12 and play a eurobasket... but the Knicks wanted to see him playing against other rookies or low level guys during SL...

So he is your guy, but don't screw up with him again please ^^

Go eat frogs

STFU Ball Boy!

a-French-Fan · Post #1094 » by **a-French-Fan** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:08 am

Milk wrote:
a-French-Fan wrote:Yes he is your guy, but also ours! (for France)

But Knicks did a very stupid thing with asking him to come for summer leagues. He ended after the draft (and had to fly to the draft during finals, for a meeting with Knicks befor being drafted). So he got injuried for SL ... good game Knicks ... He needed to rest and I think we all agree with that. After resting a month he could go with France and defending on Heurtel or De Colo during trainings, or even get into last 12 and play a eurobasket... but the Knicks wanted to see him playing against other rookies or low level guys during SL...

So he is your guy, but don't screw up with him again please ^^

How did we screw up with him?
When he banged his knee with another playing during the final game for Strasbourg?
He did not get injured during actual Summer League practices/games.
He and his agent wanted to fly over and enjoy the draft process, I don't think Knicks asked/forced him to.

He's doing great right now training with Chris Brickley (who works with Durant, Melo, Kawhi, CJ McCollum etc) in New York daily.
Which would be much better than defending/training with those role players you mentioned.

Spoiler:

Sorry, sometimes I don't write well english, that's not my fisrt language. I don't contest he banged his knee with Strasbourg.The fact is he had to rest after those finals. Injuries happen, but then he had to rest. Especially after banging knee. So I think Knicks should had let him rest instead taking some risks. (Hopefully, he finally did not play SL, thanks Knicks).

So I thing Knicks screwed up with him because the better thing to do was to let him rest for a month.

About opportunity of French national team ...

No doubt about Chris Brickley is good for training, but playing is better than training. De Colo and Heurtel are two really good offensive players. By the way, even if De Colo is in a list of great euro players who did not succeed in NBA (Rigaudeau, Jasikevicius, Petrovic at the beginning etc...) he took an other dimension with 2015 Eurobasket and 2 last seasons with CSKA. Heurtel, his defensive abilities are too weak for NBA, but he is really good for offense. Imagine a european selection with (NBAers too), you can take both of them.

As a sample about opportunity to go to an international competition, I would take Rudy Gobert 2014 world cup. He made a huge game againts Spain, and it was a very good thing for his moral.

Knicksfan20 · Post #1095 » by **Knicksfan20** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:16 am

a-French-Fan wrote:
Milk wrote:
a-French-Fan wrote:Yes he is your guy, but also ours! (for France)

But Knicks did a very stupid thing with asking him to come for summer leagues. He ended after the draft (and had to fly to the draft during finals, for a meeting with Knicks befor being drafted). So he got injuried for SL ... good game Knicks ... He needed to rest and I think we all agree with that. After resting a month he could go with France and defending on Heurtel or De Colo during trainings, or even get into last 12 and play a eurobasket... but the Knicks wanted to see him playing against other rookies or low level guys during SL...

So he is your guy, but don't screw up with him again please ^^

How did we screw up with him?
When he banged his knee with another playing during the final game for Strasbourg?
He did not get injured during actual Summer League practices/games.
He and his agent wanted to fly over and enjoy the draft process, I don't think Knicks asked/forced him to.

He's doing great right now training with Chris Brickley (who works with Durant, Melo, Kawhi, CJ McCollum etc) in New York daily.
Which would be much better than defending/training with those role players you mentioned.

Spoiler:

Sorry, sometimes I don't write well english, that's not my fisrt language. I don't contest he banged his knee with Strasbourg.The fact is he had to rest after those finals. Injuries happen, but then he had to rest. Especially after banging knee. So I think Knicks should had let him rest instead taking some risks. (Hopefully, he finally did not play SL, thanks Knicks).

So I thing Knicks screwed up with him because the better thing to do was to let him rest for a month.

About opportunity of French national team ...

No doubt about Chris Brickley is good for training, but playing is better than training. De Colo and Heurtel are two really good offensive players. By the way, even if De Colo is in a list of great euro players who did not succeed in NBA (Rigaudeau, Jasikevicius, Petrovic at the beginning etc...) he took an other dimension with 2015 Eurobasket and 2 last seasons with CSKA. Heurtel, his defensive abilities are too weak for NBA, but he is really good for offense. Imagine a european selection with (NBAers too), you can take both of them.

As a sample about opportunity to go to an international competition, I would take Rudy Gobert 2014 world cup. He made a huge game againts Spain, and it was a very good thing for his moral.

He didn't even play in summer league. He was injured coming over and wasn't 100% during first practice so they sat him and sat him the whole summer league so he could rest. They did exactly what you said they should have done. Cant blame the Knicks for letting him practice.

DOLPHIN2020 · Post #1096 » by **DOLPHIN2020** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:22 am

N Y K wrote:Just stopping by to see IG vids of Frank working out with Chris Brickley... yikes

yikes good or yikes bad?

thebuzzardman · Post #1097 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:43 am

I just want him to be better than Mardy Collins x Frank Williams

90Knicks · Post #1098 » by **90Knicks** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:39 am

Knicksfan20 wrote:
90Knicks wrote:
a-French-Fan wrote:Yes he is your guy, but also ours! (for France)

But Knicks did a very stupid thing with asking him to come for summer leagues. He ended after the draft (and had to fly to the draft during finals, for a meeting with Knicks befor being drafted). So he got injuried for SL ... good game Knicks ... He needed to rest and I think we all agree with that. After resting a month he could go with France and defending on Heurtel or De Colo during trainings, or even get into last 12 and play a eurobasket... but the Knicks wanted to see him playing against other rookies or low level guys during SL...

So he is your guy, but don't screw up with him again please ^^

Go eat frogs

STFU Ball Boy!

Post #1099 » by **King of Canada** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:41 pm

90Knicks wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:
90Knicks wrote:
Go eat frogs

STFU Ball Boy!

FYI that the traditional board welcome is to tell Ballboys to STFU and GTO. Welcome to the board.

Frank got banged up in the last game in the French championship right? Banged his knee.

Post #1100 » by **GONYK** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:20 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:I just want him to be better than Mardy Collins x Frank Williams

Let's not get crazy. You're talking about 2 of the best PG's that the Knicks have had in the last 15 years.

is it sad that that is sort of true?