Ntillmatic is OUR GUY

[2010]

Man, if I were Melo I would reconsider and think about waiving that NTC for Portland. Lillard, CJ, and Melo could make some noise and make things at least a bit more interesting in the West.

Our whole goddamn state being on fire isn't a good look for that happening

Yeah, I was just reading about that. Crazy stuff!

[TheBigBoss]

Wasn't Derek Harper 6'3 and Ron Harper 6'6?

I should have specified Derek Harper as the comparison. I thought he was 6'3 or 6'4". BBall reference has 6'4".

Ron Harper was like MJ or Drexler prior to his injury. Height is right but style wise, not close to Frank.

My line from talking about these guys: "Guys like Hill and going far back, Derek Harper, just seem like bigger guards who are closer style wise."

Guys somewhat on the tall side or long armed, who play somewhat like Frank seems to.

I get Frank is 2" taller than Derek Harper. I just can't find the 6'6" guy with a similar game. I might be overlooking a really obvious candidate. But having seen a LOT of D. Harper - defensive intensity, leadership, excellent outside shooter, just enough dribble drive to keep defenders honest, overplay his jumper, he went inside. Play off him, he just canned jumpers. Solid. Tough. Not flashy. Fundamentally sound.

I'm sticking with Frank will be Derek Harper plus 2 inches taller.

If Frank grows another inch or two then we might be looking at a less athletic Scottie Pippen, another Gaines pick that was controversial at the time.

[SelbyCobra]

[SelbyCobra]

And one more of him repping NYC to the fullest.

[GONYK]

Wasn't Derek Harper 6'3 and Ron Harper 6'6?

I should have specified Derek Harper as the comparison. I thought he was 6'3 or 6'4". BBall reference has 6'4".

Ron Harper was like MJ or Drexler prior to his injury. Height is right but style wise, not close to Frank.

My line from talking about these guys: "Guys like Hill and going far back, Derek Harper, just seem like bigger guards who are closer style wise."

Guys somewhat on the tall side or long armed, who play somewhat like Frank seems to.

I get Frank is 2" taller than Derek Harper. I just can't find the 6'6" guy with a similar game. I might be overlooking a really obvious candidate. But having seen a LOT of D. Harper - defensive intensity, leadership, excellent outside shooter, just enough dribble drive to keep defenders honest, overplay his jumper, he went inside. Play off him, he just canned jumpers. Solid. Tough. Not flashy. Fundamentally sound.

I'm sticking with Frank will be Derek Harper plus 2 inches taller.

If Frank grows another inch or two then we might be looking at a less athletic Scottie Pippen, another Gaines pick that was controversial at the time.

Fun fact about Pip: Gaines strongly advocated for trading Pippen for Duncan straight up on draft night and was shot down.

Imagine the Bulls dynasty if that had happened.

[thebuzzardman]

I should have specified Derek Harper as the comparison. I thought he was 6'3 or 6'4". BBall reference has 6'4".

Ron Harper was like MJ or Drexler prior to his injury. Height is right but style wise, not close to Frank.

My line from talking about these guys: "Guys like Hill and going far back, Derek Harper, just seem like bigger guards who are closer style wise."

Guys somewhat on the tall side or long armed, who play somewhat like Frank seems to.

I get Frank is 2" taller than Derek Harper. I just can't find the 6'6" guy with a similar game. I might be overlooking a really obvious candidate. But having seen a LOT of D. Harper - defensive intensity, leadership, excellent outside shooter, just enough dribble drive to keep defenders honest, overplay his jumper, he went inside. Play off him, he just canned jumpers. Solid. Tough. Not flashy. Fundamentally sound.

I'm sticking with Frank will be Derek Harper plus 2 inches taller.

If Frank grows another inch or two then we might be looking at a less athletic Scottie Pippen, another Gaines pick that was controversial at the time.

Fun fact about Pip: Gaines strongly advocated for trading Pippen for Duncan straight up on draft night and was shot down.

Imagine the Bulls dynasty if that had happened.

Wow. Well, this further proves Gaines has an eye for talent, that's for sure, though Duncan was pretty widely recognized coming out of college. Anyway, since Gaines has a good track record and he was on board for the pick of Frank, hopefully that's good news.


As far as Frank becoming Pippen, just can't see it. Might be doing an injustice to Frank's potential but I got to see all of Pippen's career and Frank just doesn't match him in my head. That said, even though I got to see all stages of Pippen's career, dominant peak Pippen of 40 point and 20 rebound playoff games is sort of etched in my head and I don't clearly recall young Pippen.

[GONYK]

If Frank grows another inch or two then we might be looking at a less athletic Scottie Pippen, another Gaines pick that was controversial at the time.

Fun fact about Pip: Gaines strongly advocated for trading Pippen for Duncan straight up on draft night and was shot down.

Imagine the Bulls dynasty if that had happened.

Wow. Well, this further proves Gaines has an eye for talent, that's for sure, though Duncan was pretty widely recognized coming out of college. Anyway, since Gaines has a good track record and he was on board for the pick of Frank, hopefully that's good news.


As far as Frank becoming Pippen, just can't see it. Might be doing an injustice to Frank's potential but I got to see all of Pippen's career and Frank just doesn't match him in my head. That said, even though I got to see all stages of Pippen's career, dominant peak Pippen of 40 point and 20 rebound playoff games is sort of etched in my head and I don't clearly recall young Pippen.

I don't see Pippen either, though I do see potential for a Batum type of player.

[thebuzzardman]

Fun fact about Pip: Gaines strongly advocated for trading Pippen for Duncan straight up on draft night and was shot down.

Imagine the Bulls dynasty if that had happened.

Wow. Well, this further proves Gaines has an eye for talent, that's for sure, though Duncan was pretty widely recognized coming out of college. Anyway, since Gaines has a good track record and he was on board for the pick of Frank, hopefully that's good news.


As far as Frank becoming Pippen, just can't see it. Might be doing an injustice to Frank's potential but I got to see all of Pippen's career and Frank just doesn't match him in my head. That said, even though I got to see all stages of Pippen's career, dominant peak Pippen of 40 point and 20 rebound playoff games is sort of etched in my head and I don't clearly recall young Pippen.

I don't see Pippen either, though I do see potential for a Batum type of player.

I'm still with prime Derek Harper. 18 ppg, 7 apg, all star defense.

[malik959]

Didnt Gains get Kobe too?

[Fat Kat]

[NYKAL]

Wow. Well, this further proves Gaines has an eye for talent, that's for sure, though Duncan was pretty widely recognized coming out of college. Anyway, since Gaines has a good track record and he was on board for the pick of Frank, hopefully that's good news.


As far as Frank becoming Pippen, just can't see it. Might be doing an injustice to Frank's potential but I got to see all of Pippen's career and Frank just doesn't match him in my head. That said, even though I got to see all stages of Pippen's career, dominant peak Pippen of 40 point and 20 rebound playoff games is sort of etched in my head and I don't clearly recall young Pippen.

I don't see Pippen either, though I do see potential for a Batum type of player.

I'm still with prime Derek Harper. 18 ppg, 7 apg, all star defense.

a great deal of Harper's defense relied on the ability to hand check. Once that went away, so did his effectiveness on that side of the floor. He was aging too but, there was a definite dropoff

I see Giannis if he was a guard

[CharlesOakley]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Nate McMillian. Tall, steady hand at the point, good defender and could shoot. Dennis Johnson is another guy. He was a very strong defender, team player and clutch AF.

In terms of body type, the only point guards that have similar builds to Frank are Penny Hardaway and Shaun Livingston.

[GONYK]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Nate McMillian. Tall, steady hand at the point, good defender and could shoot. Dennis Johnson is another guy. He was a very strong defender, team player and clutch AF.

In terms of body type, the only point guards that have similar builds to Frank are Penny Hardaway and Shaun Livingston.

Probably because he averaged 6ppg for his career

Though, I wouldn't mind a defender and playmaker like Nate. I think Frank will ultimately be more dynamic in the wide open game of today's NBA.

[GONYK]

Didnt Gains get Kobe too?

He never worked for the Lakers

[SelbyCobra]

[BeagleBoss]

Derek Harper is one of my all-time favs. He would have been the MVP in the 1994 Finals if we won. He was probably the most underrated non-All Star player in NBA history.

Watch on YouTube

Ntilikina has a long way to go before he reaches this level but I'd be ecstatic if he's close to Harper!

[Meat]

Fun fact about Pip: Gaines strongly advocated for trading Pippen for Duncan straight up on draft night and was shot down.

Imagine the Bulls dynasty if that had happened.

Wow. Well, this further proves Gaines has an eye for talent, that's for sure, though Duncan was pretty widely recognized coming out of college. Anyway, since Gaines has a good track record and he was on board for the pick of Frank, hopefully that's good news.


As far as Frank becoming Pippen, just can't see it. Might be doing an injustice to Frank's potential but I got to see all of Pippen's career and Frank just doesn't match him in my head. That said, even though I got to see all stages of Pippen's career, dominant peak Pippen of 40 point and 20 rebound playoff games is sort of etched in my head and I don't clearly recall young Pippen.

I don't see Pippen either, though I do see potential for a Batum type of player.

id be fine with a combo stacy augmon\mookie blaylock type player.

[thebuzzardman]

I don't see Pippen either, though I do see potential for a Batum type of player.

I'm still with prime Derek Harper. 18 ppg, 7 apg, all star defense.

a great deal of Harper's defense relied on the ability to hand check. Once that went away, so did his effectiveness on that side of the floor. He was aging too but, there was a definite dropoff

I see Giannis if he was a guard

Sure. Every guard's D went down after that rule change. Even "The Glove" Payton wasn't as good. I just think Frank will stylistically be similar to Derek Harper. A big guard that plays good defense, fundamentally sound game. Very good outside shooter, uses that to set up the inside game.

[2010]

Knicks talking about adding Trey Burke to the PG corps now

[Manhattan Project]

Knicks talking about adding Trey Burke to the PG corps now

I always thought Burke was terrible, even in college. However maybe this is Timmy trying to help his old teammate? Otherwise I can't see any other scenario in which this makes sense.