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Lakerfan17 wrote:You know, as much as I love the show I really hope they do a (very, very) high quality animated series in the future that captures everything in the story/books.

Look at all of the artwork depicting the books online to see what I mean.

The two spinoffs are likely to be Prequels they said. Fleshing out some of the history in better v details that the show relies/alludes too.

--Mags

yb90 wrote:

Are We Ther Yet wrote:

yb90 wrote:Will anyone realize that it was Arya who wiped out the Freys. The stories of a girl poisoning the Grey's has have to reach winterfell.

I would think so. Not that anyone will care after what that family did. I am sure that will get out. She took out all of the men. Who gets that castle when all is said and done?

Yeah, I doubt anyone would care about the freys but it's more about people discovering just how ruthless Arya really is.

When the dust begins to settle from the big war, if she's still alive, it'll likely come up. Tho, like you said, they'd probably celebrate her than punish her.

--Mags

digitaldropoff wrote:

Butch718 wrote:

Greenie wrote:Jamie is a dummy.

No he isn't. He was willing to sacrifice his life because he saw an opportunity to end the war by killing Dany. He came extremely close to doing it.

IMO, killing Dany would only escalate it....then you have Dathraki going straight at KL without anyone to tell them to stop, not to mention a pissed of dragon (all while his two brothers are just resting for battle)......not to mention Grey Worm would still be pissed, and the Imp isn't exactly on the Lannister side anymore. Killing Dany hardly ends anything, it just makes things more chaotic and bloody.

Not so sure about that. It would leave them fractured and leaderless, thus easier to plan against. The dragons don't answer to anyone except Dany, as far as we know that is. A divided enemy is easier to fight against.

Butch718 wrote:

digitaldropoff wrote:

Butch718 wrote:
No he isn't. He was willing to sacrifice his life because he saw an opportunity to end the war by killing Dany. He came extremely close to doing it.

IMO, killing Dany would only escalate it....then you have Dathraki going straight at KL without anyone to tell them to stop, not to mention a pissed of dragon (all while his two brothers are just resting for battle)......not to mention Grey Worm would still be pissed, and the Imp isn't exactly on the Lannister side anymore. Killing Dany hardly ends anything, it just makes things more chaotic and bloody.

Not so sure about that. It would leave them fractured and leaderless, thus easier to plan against. The dragons don't answer to anyone except Dany, as far as we know that is. A divided enemy is easier to fight against.

Totally agree with this. Jaime saw an opportunity to take out the leader and focal point of the opposition. Without Dany there is no Dothraki army and very likely no unsullied Army. The Cornish are sleeping with the fishes along with the Greyjoy fleet and soldiers loyal to her. Jaime isn't a dummy. It was a brilliant and heroic attempt.

Butch718 wrote:

Greenie wrote:Jamie is a dummy.

No he isn't. He was willing to sacrifice his life because he saw an opportunity to end the war by killing Dany. He came extremely close to doing it.

There was a dragon standing next to her.
He didn't try to attack from afar, he literally charged her as if that dragon wouldn't hear him coming. Dumb move.

Jamie doesn't want to live in dishonor anymore. He's ashamed of his relationship with his sister and I think he saw an opportunity for a good death and took it.

WesleyExChiFan wrote:Jamie doesn't want to live in dishonor anymore. He's ashamed of his relationship with his sister and I think he saw an opportunity for a good death and took it.

Yeah, the threat of betrayal from Jamie to Cersei is high.

--Mags

Greenie wrote:

Butch718 wrote:

Greenie wrote:Jamie is a dummy.

No he isn't. He was willing to sacrifice his life because he saw an opportunity to end the war by killing Dany. He came extremely close to doing it.

There was a dragon standing next to her.
He didn't try to attack from afar, he literally charged her as if that dragon wouldn't hear him coming. Dumb move.

He saw an opening and went on a suicide mission to accomplish it. He thought that Dany taking out the spear would be enough of a distraction. It's not really a dumb move, especially when all hope is lost and your army has just been decimated. He had nothing to lose at that point.

magnumt wrote:

WesleyExChiFan wrote:Jamie doesn't want to live in dishonor anymore. He's ashamed of his relationship with his sister and I think he saw an opportunity for a good death and took it.

Yeah, the threat of betrayal from Jamie to Cersei is high.

--Mags

I can't imagine Jaime being okay with being a cuck for Euron. If that doesn't push him over the edge, I don't know what will.

Greenie wrote:

Butch718 wrote:

Greenie wrote:Jamie is a dummy.

No he isn't. He was willing to sacrifice his life because he saw an opportunity to end the war by killing Dany. He came extremely close to doing it.

There was a dragon standing next to her.
He didn't try to attack from afar, he literally charged her as if that dragon wouldn't hear him coming. Dumb move.

He had nothing to attack him from afar with. He did the only thing possible, and imo it was a super high risk super high reward move that to tremendous courage. It was not at all dumb.

Ignitowsky wrote:

Greenie wrote:

Butch718 wrote:
No he isn't. He was willing to sacrifice his life because he saw an opportunity to end the war by killing Dany. He came extremely close to doing it.

There was a dragon standing next to her.
He didn't try to attack from afar, he literally charged her as if that dragon wouldn't hear him coming. Dumb move.

He had nothing to attack him from afar with. He did the only thing possible, and imo it was a super high risk super high reward move that to tremendous courage. It was not at all dumb.

He could have thrown the spear. Grabbed a bow. It's simply not smart in my opinion. Think things through.

Greenie wrote:

Ignitowsky wrote:

Greenie wrote:There was a dragon standing next to her.
He didn't try to attack from afar, he literally charged her as if that dragon wouldn't hear him coming. Dumb move.

He had nothing to attack him from afar with. He did the only thing possible, and imo it was a super high risk super high reward move that to tremendous courage. It was not at all dumb.

He could have thrown the spear. Grabbed a bow. It's simply not smart in my opinion. Think things through.

A right handed man throwing a spear left handed, or a 1 handed man shooting a bow and arrow. Riiiiiiight.

Darth Celtic wrote:

Greenie wrote:

Ignitowsky wrote:He had nothing to attack him from afar with. He did the only thing possible, and imo it was a super high risk super high reward move that to tremendous courage. It was not at all dumb.

He could have thrown the spear. Grabbed a bow. It's simply not smart in my opinion. Think things through.

A right handed man throwing a spear left handed, or a 1 handed man shooting a bow and arrow. Riiiiiiight.

he's got feet though.

Butch718 wrote:

Dr. Detfink wrote:

MP4LIFE wrote:
I'm being sarcastic.

Stop nitpicking.

Well I wasn't. This is a legit point. How many repetitive scenes can you have:

1. Podrick getting his arse handed to him by Brienne with no progression.

2. Littlefinger speaking in creepy tongues to Sansa and nothing.

3. Davos really doing nothing but keeping the grammar Nazi gag going.

Give me more meaningful scenes dedicated towards other characters.

Maybe Podrick just isn't meant to be a fighter? Not everyone has that ability. And it's not like that scene took a lot of time. It segwayed into that scene with Arya, which was pretty damn cool.

I think the point of Littlefinger getting nowhere with Sansa is to show that he's boxed into a corner. He really doesn't have many options left and his days are numbered. Which makes him even more dangerous. He miscalculated his position by supporting her. He can't withdraw his support and the Lords of the Vale would never attack the Starks in Winterfell. I'm curious to see what his hail mary attempt will be.

Davos is a sidekick to Jon at this point. it remains to be seen whether or not he's going to be doing something on his own.

But it's over and over and over and over....and still over. Give me something um, meaningful?

Dr. Detfink wrote:But it's over and over and over and over....and still over. Give me something um, meaningful?

It's all going to come to a head. Instant gratification isn't always a good thing.

I like the concept that the use of nuclear weapons
Vs Tyrion's constipated plan is a message of conservative Republican foreign policy. That's bold and unexpected.

Butch718 wrote:

Dr. Detfink wrote:But it's over and over and over and over....and still over. Give me something um, meaningful?

It's all going to come to a head. Instant gratification isn't always a good thing.

It's not instant. It's repetitive

Darth Celtic wrote:

Greenie wrote:

Ignitowsky wrote:He had nothing to attack him from afar with. He did the only thing possible, and imo it was a super high risk super high reward move that to tremendous courage. It was not at all dumb.

He could have thrown the spear. Grabbed a bow. It's simply not smart in my opinion. Think things through.

A right handed man throwing a spear left handed, or a 1 handed man shooting a bow and arrow. Riiiiiiight.

He's a legend you know...

Dr. Detfink wrote:

Butch718 wrote:

Dr. Detfink wrote:But it's over and over and over and over....and still over. Give me something um, meaningful?

It's all going to come to a head. Instant gratification isn't always a good thing.

It's not instant. It's repetitive

Ok. Give me an example of what you would want to see? Especially with Littlefinger and Podrick? Podrick has always been relegated to a sidekick. He's getting his ass kicked repeatedly. So what? Is it really that big a deal to you that he's been given nothing to do?

Littlefinger getting nowhere just reinforces the fact that he's trapped. Especially with all the Stark children now at Winterfell. The payoff is coming. You know it. I know it. We all know it.

We don't know for certain that Davos won't have anything important to do.

The things you see issues with are things that don't bother me at all. The repetitiveness doesn't bother me because it ultimately isn't affecting the pacing(which has been a light speed) of the show for me.

Different strokes I guess.

Greenie wrote:

Darth Celtic wrote:

Greenie wrote:He could have thrown the spear. Grabbed a bow. It's simply not smart in my opinion. Think things through.

A right handed man throwing a spear left handed, or a 1 handed man shooting a bow and arrow. Riiiiiiight.

He's a legend you know...

With a sword. Jaime was considered one of the greatests swordsmen in all of Westeros.

It's not exactly easy lunging a spear when you're trying to stay balanced on a horse steering with a golden hand. He can't exactly shoot a bow and arrow either.