MP4LIFE wrote:Knicksfan20 wrote:Are We Ther Yet wrote:
What is your point? Baker played 5 games. Sessions has one foot in China.
If you want to act like Stats tell the whole story...
Knicks are down 20 points. Rose gets benched. Baker came in and won games in the 4th quarter with a +/- of 31. Rose went AWOL.
People act like 4/2/2 matter. Every time he got real minutes..he was the best PG on the team. He actually plays defense.
Which camp are you in? Overpaid or underpaid?
Try basing your opinions on facts next time. You might not be dismissed so easily.
I watched almost every minute of every Knick game last season. Baker had a few shining moments, but he had a lot of bad moments as well. Baker played a lot more then 5 games. He started more then 5 games also. He had an abysmal PER of 7.5 which has nothing to do with your minutes played. Its actually easier to have a respectable PER with lower minutes. Anyways..
You said he played 5 games.. He started 13 games and played 53. Averaged 17 mpg for the whole season... I bring up 4/2/2 because that is his averages over 17 mpg. He also shot 38% from the field and 27% from 3...
I saw nothing in his game in which he should have been rewarded a 9 million dollar contract with a player option included. Toney Douglas looked a lot more impressive his rookie season and brought defense as well. I hope Baker becomes a serviceable player, but I am not holding my breathe.
Its 1 thing to bet on your own players to develop and improve, its another thing to bet 9 million dollars on a 2nd year undrafted player who couldn't even breatk 40% fg or 30% 3pt.
That dude talking up Ron Baker is a classic example of Knicks fan with no sense of reality outside of the orange and blue. If Baker was never a Knick and was currently a free agent he wouldn't even be considered by any of these people praising him.
There have been countless cases with the Knicks and with other teams where a player was either highly regarded or regarded poorly, and then when they actually got to the team people either appreciated them much more than they did before or hated them much more than they did before. This is because you never really know a player until you get to see them play day in and day out under all sorts of conditions. so many people based their opinion of a player on one great game that they had against us and never look at the numbers or any of the other factors that make a player good or bad.
I'm not saying that Sessions is a good or even decent point guard, but he's a great fit for what this team is trying to do right now. I'm assuming he's a good guy in the locker room and that he's smart enough to know the game but not good enough to play it at a high enough level. We needed a mentor for Frank. Sessions is is going to be that guy.
As for Baker, yes, he averaged 4/2/2, but he showed that his numbers when playing significant minutes would probably be at least double that. Yes he's never going to be a great player In the NBA, but he plays hard on both ends of the floor, really plays defense and I suspect as a great guy in the locker room. I'd rather pay him for his effort and potential than overpay some journeyman bum.
you have to look at the totality of the situation before trying to assess one particular move. I like what we're doing so far in the offseason. my only gripe would be the player option that we gave to Ron rather than making it a team option.
