Vegas has knicks as 6th worst team in NBA for 2017/18

[mpharris36]

Over/Unders

Atl 25.5
Bos 56.5
Brk 28.5
Cha 42.5
Chi 21.5
Cle 53.5
Dal 35.5
Den 45.5
Det 38.5
GS 67.5
Hou 55.5
Ind 31.5
LAC 43.5
LAL 33.5
Mem 37.5
Mia 43.5
Mil 47.5
Min 48.5
NO 39.5
NY 30.5
OKC 51.5
Orl 33.5
Phi 42.5
Phx 28.5
Por 42.5
Sac 28.5
SA 54.5
Tor 48.5
Utah 40.5
Was 47.5

I can make the case BKN because they wont be tanking and Sac with there additions might be better than us. But Indy might be worse.

So we have a legit shot at a top 5 pick (especially if melo is traded).

[Greenie]

Hurry up with the Melo buy out.

[Phish Tank]

I'm gonna bet the under on 30.5 as well as the 76ers with 42.5

[JXL]

Over/Unders

Atl 25.5 Under
Bos 56.5 Over (better with Kyrie)
Brk 28.5 Under
Cha 42.5 Under
Chi 21.5 Under
Cle 53.5 Over
Dal 35.5 Under
Den 45.5 Under
Det 38.5 Under
GS 67.5 Even
Hou 55.5 Over
Ind 31.5 Over
LAC 43.5 Over
LAL 33.5 Over (they're better than most believe)
Mem 37.5 Over
Mia 43.5 Over
Mil 47.5 Under
Min 48.5 Under (overrating this team)
NO 39.5 Over (underrating this team)
NY 30.5 Under
OKC 51.5 Under
Orl 33.5 Under
Phi 42.5 Under (also overrating this team)
Phx 28.5 Under
Por 42.5 Under (did they even get better?)
Sac 28.5 Over
SA 54.5 Under
Tor 48.5 Under
Utah 40.5 Over (soooo underrated, even with Hayward leaving)
Was 47.5 Over

[shtolky]

KP takes the leap, Frank has a better than expected rookie season, Willy improves upon his rookie season, and we only win 30 games after Melo is dealt. This would be an incredibly successful season.

[shtolky]

I'm gonna bet the under on 30.5 as well as the 76ers with 42.5

I've never made a sports bet in my life but I am considering taking the Sixers under. Not a chance they win 43 games.

[moocow007]

Initial reaction is that 30.5 wins is low and to complain about it. Then I remember ever time in previous years the predictions seemed low and we bitched, the predictions actually ended up being higher than actual win totals. Maybe if we all complain the Knicks will win less than 31 games and we'd be in better position for a top draft pick?

[NBA Fan 1234]

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[Capn'O]

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I totally just entered this thread to post "that's not good enough" gifs.

Initial reaction is that 30.5 wins is low and to complain about it. Then I remember ever time in previous years the predictions seemed low and we bitched, the predictions actually ended up being higher than actual win totals. Maybe if we all complain the Knicks will win less than 31 games and we'd be in better position for a top draft pick?

What worries me is we're bitching that it's too HIGH this year. Reverse psychology.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Sasha leaving probably adds at least 2 wins

[NBA Fan 1234]

Over/Unders

Atl 25.5 Under
Bos 56.5 Over (better with Kyrie)
Brk 28.5 Under
Cha 42.5 Under
Chi 21.5 Under
Cle 53.5 Over
Dal 35.5 Under
Den 45.5 Under
Det 38.5 Under
GS 67.5 Even
Hou 55.5 Over
Ind 31.5 Over
LAC 43.5 Over
LAL 33.5 Over (they're better than most believe)
Mem 37.5 Over
Mia 43.5 Over
Mil 47.5 Under
Min 48.5 Under (overrating this team)
NO 39.5 Over (underrating this team)
NY 30.5 Under
OKC 51.5 Under
Orl 33.5 Under
Phi 42.5 Under (also overrating this team)
Phx 28.5 Under
Por 42.5 Under (did they even get better?)
Sac 28.5 Over
SA 54.5 Under
Tor 48.5 Under
Utah 40.5 Over (soooo underrated, even with Hayward leaving)
Was 47.5 Over

You think Denver gets under 45.5 even though they ended the season at 2 games under and were 31-26 after Dec 15...and they're adding Milsap?

[thebuzzardman]

Not quite bad enough!

[thebuzzardman]

I think Sacramento is going to be better than the Knicks, in spite of playing in the West. Also, being West vs East isn't as harsh as schedule isn't as weighted.

[thebuzzardman]

Sasha leaving probably adds at least 2 wins

It's more crucial than ever MFLFT gets major minutes.

[Basketball1981]

I think Phoenix may win 30 games.

[battabing10]

2013-14 they picked 49.5 and the knicks got 37 way way off
2014-15 they picked 40.5 and the knicks got 17 way way off
2015-16 they picked 31.5 and the knicks got 32 they're learning
2016-17 they picked 38.5 and the knicks got 31 way off

vegas is woefully out of touch.

espn is not predicting much different this year according to rpm.

i would bet the knicks win more than 30 games.

[moocow007]

Initial reaction is that 30.5 wins is low and to complain about it. Then I remember ever time in previous years the predictions seemed low and we bitched, the predictions actually ended up being higher than actual win totals. Maybe if we all complain the Knicks will win less than 31 games and we'd be in better position for a top draft pick?

What worries me is we're bitching that it's too HIGH this year. Reverse psychology.

That's why I think knickstape got it right. We need to keep bitching that it's not high enough. End up with 20 wins and maybe a top 3 pick.

[moocow007]

Sasha leaving probably adds at least 2 wins

It's more crucial than ever MFLFT gets major minutes.

Some one needs to talk him into really believing he's a combination of Karl Malone and Hakeem Olajuwon.

[thebuzzardman]

Sasha leaving probably adds at least 2 wins

It's more crucial than ever MFLFT gets major minutes.

Some one needs to talk him into really believing he's a combination of Karl Malone and Hakeem Olajuwon.

He already seems to think he's Michael Jordan, so shouldn't be hard.

[Dr. Detfink]

I wish. The Knicks are 10-12 worst.