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Re: Build a Franchise- Discussion thread (part 3) 

Post#1941 » by pass first » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:54 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:Im not alone in thinking that Thad Young would be better for my starting lineup and Gay off teh bench as a F combo right?

Not sure if Young is really a 3. He only played 9% of his career mins there, and most of it in his first three seasons. He doesn't shoot many threes. Ideal imo would be to sign another 3 and start him. That would make your bench really strong.
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Post#1942 » by Manhattan Project » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:04 pm

Well look at that people still got a little change to throw around.
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Re: Build a Franchise- Discussion thread (part 3) 

Post#1943 » by swisscheeseD » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:26 pm

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Add Cody Zeller to the list now as well...

Great Job over there Deeez!
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Re: Build a Franchise- Discussion thread (part 3) 

Post#1944 » by Greenie » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:37 pm

Collins is interesting
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Post#1945 » by Manhattan Project » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:44 pm

I was in on Zeller, dude is outrageously underrated.
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Re: Build a Franchise- Discussion thread (part 3) 

Post#1946 » by Knicksfan20 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:46 pm

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Knicksfan20 wrote:Im not alone in thinking that Thad Young would be better for my starting lineup and Gay off teh bench as a F combo right?

Not sure if Young is really a 3. He only played 9% of his career mins there, and most of it in his first three seasons. He doesn't shoot many threes. Ideal imo would be to sign another 3 and start him. That would make your bench really strong.


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Re: Build a Franchise- Discussion thread (part 3) 

Post#1947 » by Capn'O » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:47 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:Well look at that people still got a little change to throw around.


We're seeing The Revenge of the Tall Stack right now.

Manhattan Project wrote:I was in on Zeller, dude is outrageously underrated.


I would say by the contract he's getting he's about appropriately rated.
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Post#1948 » by Greenie » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:59 pm

Really debating Collins...
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Post#1949 » by Mecca » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:00 pm

Nurkic war incoming. BPA by far imo.
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Re: Build a Franchise- Discussion thread (part 3) 

Post#1950 » by Capn'O » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:06 pm

Mecca wrote:Nurkic war incoming. BPA by far imo.


I'm curious what he goes for. He was a major target of mine but I shifted gears.
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Post#1951 » by Mecca » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:07 pm

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Mecca wrote:Nurkic war incoming. BPA by far imo.


I'm curious what he goes for. He was a major target of mine but I shifted gears.


Same he was on my radar.
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Re: Build a Franchise- Discussion thread (part 3) 

Post#1952 » by moocow007 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:13 pm

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Knicksfan20 wrote:Im not alone in thinking that Thad Young would be better for my starting lineup and Gay off teh bench as a F combo right?

Not sure if Young is really a 3. He only played 9% of his career mins there, and most of it in his first three seasons. He doesn't shoot many threes. Ideal imo would be to sign another 3 and start him. That would make your bench really strong.


At this point in his career I'd say he's really more a 4. Honestly hes always been more of a 4. He doesn't have the perimeter or ball skills to be a 3 (was the biggest knock on him coming into the NBA) and is more effective around the basket where he can use his strength/toughness/athleticism to his advantage. Young has some shooting ability but it's more of a 4's type shooting. You don't want to be standing around the perimeter looking to jack or create off the dribble that's for sure. Defensively he's better on 4's as he has terrific strength, plays with an edge and has the foot speed to really be a bother for 4's.
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Re: Build a Franchise- Discussion thread (part 3) 

Post#1953 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:16 pm

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Add Cody Zeller to the list now as well...

Great Job over there Deeez!


Thanks man. I think Zeller’s a perfect fit with my core. 24year old, athletic 2-way C. He plays very well in the pick n roll, sets a ton of screens and has mastered the dribble hand-off. He was 3rd in the NBA in screen assists. He will help free up Beal a ton. Was def the big I have been targeting.
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Re: Build a Franchise- Discussion thread (part 3) 

Post#1954 » by Capn'O » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:19 pm

Mecca wrote:
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Mecca wrote:Nurkic war incoming. BPA by far imo.


I'm curious what he goes for. He was a major target of mine but I shifted gears.


Same he was on my radar.


Eh. **** it. I just set the low bar anyway.
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Post#1955 » by moocow007 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:23 pm

Nurkic should in the vicinity of Jokic in terms of value so should expect about the same $ range give or take (depending on who you prefer). He is basically the last guy on the board that has 'cornerstone' type upside among young players so anyone with a very healthy cap and who is building based on youth should be all over him. I honestly think Nurkic has more upside than Jokic.
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Post#1956 » by Capn'O » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:33 pm

moocow007 wrote:Nurkic should in the vicinity of Jokic in terms of value so should expect about the same $ range give or take (depending on who you prefer).


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Re: Build a Franchise- Discussion thread (part 3) 

Post#1957 » by Knicksfan20 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:34 pm

moocow007 wrote:
pass first wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:Im not alone in thinking that Thad Young would be better for my starting lineup and Gay off teh bench as a F combo right?

Not sure if Young is really a 3. He only played 9% of his career mins there, and most of it in his first three seasons. He doesn't shoot many threes. Ideal imo would be to sign another 3 and start him. That would make your bench really strong.


At this point in his career I'd say he's really more a 4. Honestly hes always been more of a 4. He doesn't have the perimeter or ball skills to be a 3 and is more effective around the basket where he can use his strength/toughness/athleticism to his advantage.


doesnt need to be.

Love is the shooter and scorer.

Thad is a slasher. He can hit an open 3, he just doesnt shoot many, but you gotta respect it. He Did make 38% last season taking almost 2 a game. I dont need him to be that. I have Love/Barton/Schroder who are good ball shooters/passers/scorers and Barton Schroder both can handle the ball and create offense. The ball movement is going to be great on this team.

I dont need Young to do anything on offense but space the floor which he will, and slash/runt he floor. Most Nba players can hit an open 3 pointer, even average to below average shooters. Still have to respect even an average to below average shooter.


What i need Young for is his defense. One of the premier offensive positions in the sport is SF. Lebron/Kawhi/Durant/Gay/Butler/Melo/Giannis/Hayward .. etc. I need a guy who i can throw on those dudes. Thad is a very good defender, good athlete and creates turnovers. My team is going to be in transition alot. He can run the floor and finish. Love spaces the floor better then most guards and Barton is good 3pt shooter. Schroder was solid from 3 and may take another step this season which many expect him to do.


I have Gay who can do the traditional scoring stuff from SF. And Young will get minutes at PF as well. But he will start so i can sick him on some of the top dogs Like Lebron, Durant , Kawhi, Gay etc.
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Post#1958 » by moocow007 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:37 pm

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moocow007 wrote:Nurkic should in the vicinity of Jokic in terms of value so should expect about the same $ range give or take (depending on who you prefer).


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Re: Build a Franchise- Discussion thread (part 3) 

Post#1959 » by moocow007 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:40 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:
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pass first wrote:Not sure if Young is really a 3. He only played 9% of his career mins there, and most of it in his first three seasons. He doesn't shoot many threes. Ideal imo would be to sign another 3 and start him. That would make your bench really strong.


At this point in his career I'd say he's really more a 4. Honestly hes always been more of a 4. He doesn't have the perimeter or ball skills to be a 3 and is more effective around the basket where he can use his strength/toughness/athleticism to his advantage.


doesnt need to be.

Love is the shooter and scorer.

Thad is a slasher. He can hit an open 3, he just doesnt shoot many, but you gotta respect it. He Did make 38% last season taking almost 2 a game. I dont need him to be that. I have Love/Barton/Schroder who are good ball shooters/passers/scorers and Barton Schroder both can handle the ball and create offense. The ball movement is going to be great on this team.

I dont need Young to do anything on offense but space the floor which he will, and slash/runt he floor. Most Nba players can hit an open 3 pointer, even average to below average shooters. Still have to respect even an average to below average shooter.


What i need Young for is his defense. One of the premier offensive positions in the sport is SF. Lebron/Kawhi/Durant/Gay/Butler/Melo/Giannis/Hayward .. etc. I need a guy who i can throw on those dudes. Thad is a very good defender, good athlete and creates turnovers. My team is going to be in transition alot. He can run the floor and finish. Love spaces the floor better then most guards and Barton is good 3pt shooter. Schroder was solid from 3 and may take another step this season which many expect him to do.


I have Gay who can do the traditional scoring stuff from SF. And Young will get minutes at PF as well. But he will start so i can sick him on some of the top dogs Like Lebron, Durant , Kawhi, Gay etc.


I think you're fine. You know I'm a Gay fan so I think it should work out. I would still look to add an athletic wing type though at some point but you got enough cap for that can run around.
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Re: Build a Franchise- Discussion thread (part 3) 

Post#1960 » by Knicksfan20 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:43 pm

moocow007 wrote:I think you're fine. You know I'm a Gay fan so I think it should work out. I would still look to add an athletic wing type though at some point but you got enough cap for that can run around.


Yeah i have a plan. We will see if i get my guys or not lol.
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