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Oakley Files Civil Suit Against Dolan: Tell Me How You REALLY Feel, Charles

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Oakley Files Civil Suit Against Dolan: Tell Me How You REALLY Feel, Charles 

Post#1 » by SelbyCobra » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:07 pm

"...one person who could not abide by Mr. Oakley's refusal to meekly submit to people in positions of power was defendant, James Dolan, who inherited control of the Knicks from his father..."


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Post#3 » by BKlutch » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:26 pm

This is a win-win.

Either Charles wins and our favorite NBA villain bites the dust, or even it he doesn't win, there's considerable value in seeing Charles Oakley express how millions of Knicks fans feel.
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Re: Oakley Files Civil Suit Against Dolan: Tell Me How You REALLY Feel, Charles 

Post#4 » by Rasho Brezec » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:55 pm

Before Dolan apologists call Oakley petty and childish, remember this:

https://www.si.com/nba/2016/12/06/jayson-williams-charles-oakley-rehabiliation-addiction
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Re: Oakley Files Civil Suit Against Dolan: Tell Me How You REALLY Feel, Charles 

Post#5 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:01 pm

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"...one person who could not abide by Mr. Oakley's refusal to meekly submit to people in positions of power was defendant, James Dolan, who inherited control of the Knicks from his father..."


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I'm not impressed with the quality of that allegation. I mean "kiss the ring"? I'll have to read the entire complaint.

Does anybody know where the complaint was filed? Federal District Court or Manhattan Supreme Court?
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Re: Oakley Files Civil Suit Against Dolan: Tell Me How You REALLY Feel, Charles 

Post#6 » by MaseInYourFace » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:14 pm

BKlutch wrote:This is a win-win.

Either Charles wins and our favorite NBA villain bites the dust, or even it he doesn't win, there's considerable value in seeing Charles Oakley express how millions of Knicks fans feel.


Bites the dust how? It's a pretty frivolous lawsuit in the grand scheme of things and it is civil not criminal. Although I support Oakley as a fan.
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Re: Oakley Files Civil Suit Against Dolan: Tell Me How You REALLY Feel, Charles 

Post#7 » by GONYK » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:35 pm

BKlutch wrote:This is a win-win.

Either Charles wins and our favorite NBA villain bites the dust, or even it he doesn't win, there's considerable value in seeing Charles Oakley express how millions of Knicks fans feel.


In what way?
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Re: Oakley Files Civil Suit Against Dolan: Tell Me How You REALLY Feel, Charles 

Post#8 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:55 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:Before Dolan apologists call Oakley petty and childish, remember this:

https://www.si.com/nba/2016/12/06/jayson-williams-charles-oakley-rehabiliation-addiction


Oak might get a little ignorant here and there, but he's a man's man.
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Re: Oakley Files Civil Suit Against Dolan: Tell Me How You REALLY Feel, Charles 

Post#9 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:29 pm

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Rasho Brezec wrote:Before Dolan apologists call Oakley petty and childish, remember this:

https://www.si.com/nba/2016/12/06/jayson-williams-charles-oakley-rehabiliation-addiction


Oak might get a little ignorant here and there, but he's a man's man.


Dolan publicly calling Oakley and alcoholic and saying that he was drunk at The Garden that night is going to cost him a lot of money, IMO. I hope this goes to another jury trial, like Brown-Sanders. Dolan definitely defamed Oak. And if Oakley's version of the events at The Garden that night is true, then MSG is going to be on the hook for malicious prosecution and false arrest.

As I recall, publishing a false statement about another's drug or alcohol use "defamation per se'." Assuming this tort is still acknowledged in NY State (I believe Michigan and California have amended the law), if Oakley can prove that Dolan's/MSG's statements about his "alcoholism" fall within one of the categories of defamation per se, he's not required to prove damages at trial as they are presumed.
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Re: Oakley Files Civil Suit Against Dolan: Tell Me How You REALLY Feel, Charles 

Post#10 » by K P 6 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:31 pm

So bc he doesnt get free tickets, Dolan doesnt acknowledge him, and doesnt have a red carpet rolled out for him he mad? lmao Please be more. That little snippet seemed childish.
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Re: Oakley Files Civil Suit Against Dolan: Tell Me How You REALLY Feel, Charles 

Post#11 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:35 pm

K P 6 wrote:So bc he doesnt get free tickets, Dolan doesnt acknowledge him, and doesnt have a red carpet rolled out for him he mad? lmao Please be more. That little snippet seemed childish.


Read my post just above yours.

That allegation is to set up the background between Dolan and him. I really didn't like the way it was put together. There was a better way to write it to make Dolan appear petty towards Oakley rather than Oakley not treated like the royalty that he believes he is. A little on the snooty side.
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Re: Oakley Files Civil Suit Against Dolan: Tell Me How You REALLY Feel, Charles 

Post#12 » by Isiahthomass » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:48 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:Before Dolan apologists call Oakley petty and childish, remember this:

https://www.si.com/nba/2016/12/06/jayson-williams-charles-oakley-rehabiliation-addiction



Or this:

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/charles-oakley-s-pool-altercation-in-las-vegas-1.13109638

I live in Vegas and Oakley has a bad rep here.

I wish people would stop equating that by admonishing this type of behavior you are somehow a Dolan fan. I am a huge fan of Oakley as a Knicks player, and not a fan of Dolan as an owner. But acting the way he did was unacceptable, end of story.
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Re: Oakley Files Civil Suit Against Dolan: Tell Me How You REALLY Feel, Charles 

Post#13 » by spikeslovechild » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:54 pm

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Re: Oakley Files Civil Suit Against Dolan: Tell Me How You REALLY Feel, Charles 

Post#14 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:59 pm

Isiahthomass wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:Before Dolan apologists call Oakley petty and childish, remember this:

https://www.si.com/nba/2016/12/06/jayson-williams-charles-oakley-rehabiliation-addiction



Or this:

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/charles-oakley-s-pool-altercation-in-las-vegas-1.13109638

I live in Vegas and Oakley has a bad rep here.

I wish people would stop equating that by admonishing this type of behavior you are somehow a Dolan fan. I am a huge fan of Oakley as a Knicks player, and not a fan of Dolan as an owner. But acting the way he did was unacceptable, end of story.


I once litigated a lawsuit alleging assault and false arrest on behalf of an African American client who was tuned up at Harrah's in Delaware County, PA. We sued both casino security and Pa. state police officers and settled the case for $50k pretrial. These security types were all a bunch of meatheads.

I can't wait until Oakley's lawyers send out the document requests. :lol:
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Re: Oakley Files Civil Suit Against Dolan: Tell Me How You REALLY Feel, Charles 

Post#15 » by knicks85 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:05 pm

that complaint reads like a first-semester 4th tier law school student...your five minutes are up oakley
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Post#16 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:09 pm

knicks85 wrote:that complaint reads like a first-semester 4th tier law school student...your five minutes are up oakley


I haven't read the full complaint yet, but I wasn't impressed either from the paragraph I read in that tweet.
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Post#17 » by MaseInYourFace » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:13 pm

Oak used the lawyer he uses for his carwashes lmao.
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Post#18 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:30 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:Oak used the lawyer he uses for his carwashes lmao.


Is that true? That's crazy. He should get himself one of NYC's better trial lawyers.
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Post#19 » by MaseInYourFace » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:20 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:Oak used the lawyer he uses for his carwashes lmao.


Is that true? That's crazy. He should get himself one of NYC's better trial lawyers.


Lol I was making a joke, I don't know. But that sure seems like a poorly written formal legal complaint. I mean I'm an auditor not a lawyer but I've seen better.
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Post#20 » by louieOrr » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:25 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:Before Dolan apologists call Oakley petty and childish, remember this:

https://www.si.com/nba/2016/12/06/jayson-williams-charles-oakley-rehabiliation-addiction


Do such people really exist?? :o
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