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ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA

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Re: RE: Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#21 » by NOOB77 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:42 pm

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moocow007 wrote:Who are some of the guys ahead of him and behind him?


Robert Covington, Bogdan from the Bucks, Eric Gordon were all rated ahead of Melo
That is straight up insane


63 - Lonzo Ball
62 - Eric Gordon
61 - Avery Bradley
60 - Devon Booker
59 - Danny Green
58 - Harrison Barnes
57 - Andrew Wiggins
56 - Malcolm Brodgon
55 - Robert Covington
54 - Gallo
53 - Drummond
52 - Jrue Holiday
51 - Brook Lopez

LOL OMFG
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Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#22 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:43 pm

dakomish23 wrote:Responding to it on social media is a stupid move by him IMO. Shut them up with your play on the court.


Right. To go through the trouble of posting comments from "I don't care" to "That's disrespectful" seems to show that you do care. I would've left my teammates who love me so much rise up and defend my honor. :wink:
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Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#23 » by Fat » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:43 pm

69 would of been better
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Re: RE: Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#24 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:44 pm

NYKfan77 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Robert Covington, Bogdan from the Bucks, Eric Gordon were all rated ahead of Melo
That is straight up insane


63 - Lonzo Ball
62 - Eric Gordon
61 - Avery Bradley
60 - Devon Booker
59 - Danny Green
58 - Harrison Barnes
57 - Andrew Wiggins
56 - Malcolm Brodgon
55 - Robert Covington
54 - Gallo
53 - Drummond
52 - Jrue Holiday
51 - Brook Lopez

LOL OMFG

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Re: RE: Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#25 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:45 pm

NYKfan77 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Robert Covington, Bogdan from the Bucks, Eric Gordon were all rated ahead of Melo
That is straight up insane


63 - Lonzo Ball
62 - Eric Gordon
61 - Avery Bradley
60 - Devon Booker
59 - Danny Green
58 - Harrison Barnes
57 - Andrew Wiggins
56 - Malcolm Brodgon
55 - Robert Covington
54 - Gallo
53 - Drummond
52 - Jrue Holiday
51 - Brook Lopez

LOL OMFG


That's some shyt right there. Harrison Barnes. :lol: :noway:
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Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#26 » by amsterdamknicks » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:45 pm

People on here still defending this bum.




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Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#27 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:46 pm

amsterdamknicks wrote:People on here still defending this bum.

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Not really, but that list is still pretty wacked.
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Re: RE: Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#28 » by DaKnicksAreBack » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:47 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
NYKfan77 wrote:
GONYK wrote:That is straight up insane


63 - Lonzo Ball
62 - Eric Gordon
61 - Avery Bradley
60 - Devon Booker
59 - Danny Green
58 - Harrison Barnes
57 - Andrew Wiggins
56 - Malcolm Brodgon
55 - Robert Covington
54 - Gallo
53 - Drummond
52 - Jrue Holiday
51 - Brook Lopez

LOL OMFG


That's some shyt right there. Harrison Barnes. :lol: :noway:


Harrison Barnes is way better than melo
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Re: RE: Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#29 » by GONYK » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:48 pm

DaKnicksAreBack wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
NYKfan77 wrote:
63 - Lonzo Ball
62 - Eric Gordon
61 - Avery Bradley
60 - Devon Booker
59 - Danny Green
58 - Harrison Barnes
57 - Andrew Wiggins
56 - Malcolm Brodgon
55 - Robert Covington
54 - Gallo
53 - Drummond
52 - Jrue Holiday
51 - Brook Lopez

LOL OMFG


That's some shyt right there. Harrison Barnes. :lol: :noway:


Harrison Barnes is way better than melo


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Re: RE: Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#30 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:55 pm

DaKnicksAreBack wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
NYKfan77 wrote:
63 - Lonzo Ball
62 - Eric Gordon
61 - Avery Bradley
60 - Devon Booker
59 - Danny Green
58 - Harrison Barnes
57 - Andrew Wiggins
56 - Malcolm Brodgon
55 - Robert Covington
54 - Gallo
53 - Drummond
52 - Jrue Holiday
51 - Brook Lopez

LOL OMFG


That's some shyt right there. Harrison Barnes. :lol: :noway:


Harrison Barnes is way better than melo


I'm not Melo fan, but the stats say otherwise though Melo is trending downward and Barnes improved from the season before. Still, Barnes's PER was a career high 16.2 (his career average is 12.8) while Melo's was 17.9 (career average of 20.9). But I'm open to persuasion.
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Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#31 » by Sark » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:05 pm

Because he is THAT bad at defense, and his offense isn't efficient enough to make up for it.
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Post#32 » by DaKnicksAreBack » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:08 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
DaKnicksAreBack wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
That's some shyt right there. Harrison Barnes. :lol: :noway:


Harrison Barnes is way better than melo


I'm not Melo fan, but the stats say otherwise though Melo is trending downward and Barnes improved from the season before. Still, Barnes's PER was a career high 16.2 (his career average is 12.8) while Melo's was 17.9 (career average of 20.9). But I'm open to persuasion.


I'm not really up on the whole per thing, but I do know barns is a better defender, more efficient scorer and more of a willing passer (even though he doesn't get a lot of assists).
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Post#33 » by Wolfgang630 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:12 pm

I really do wonder how many people are actual Knicks fans with some of the crap that comes out of their mouth.
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Re: RE: Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#34 » by moocow007 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:19 pm

DaKnicksAreBack wrote:
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Harrison Barnes is way better than melo


I'm not Melo fan, but the stats say otherwise though Melo is trending downward and Barnes improved from the season before. Still, Barnes's PER was a career high 16.2 (his career average is 12.8) while Melo's was 17.9 (career average of 20.9). But I'm open to persuasion.


I'm not really up on the whole per thing, but I do know barns is a better defender, more efficient scorer and more of a willing passer (even though he doesn't get a lot of assists).


The Mavericks were actually better offensively and defensively when he was not on the floor last season. Anthony? The Knicks were better with him on the floor offensively, worse defensively. As far as "more willing passer", not sure how you measure that but Carmelo Anthony's assist% last season was 2x as big as Barnes. Barnes does not pass simple as that. In fact among players with usage rates higher than 25% (meaning he gets a lot of touches offensively) his assist % was among the worst for non C's in the NBA. Anthony, despite the reputation as a ball hog, is a MUCH BETTER passer than Barnes (willing or not). From an efficiency standpoint Barne's TS% was only 0.5% better than Anthony's even though Barnes FG% was 2.5% better...so they really aren't that significant a separation there either. Barnes is a better defender than Anthony is really about the only clear win. But forget that, at least with Barnes there's an argument that they are close. Some of the other guys in that range (before Anthony) are jokes. Danny Green? Malcolm Brogdon? :lol:
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Post#35 » by Thugger HBC » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:22 pm

Sark wrote:Because he is THAT bad at defense, and his offense isn't efficient enough to make up for it.

This pretty much sums up Melo at this stage of his career.

Its not disrespect either.

Now if Melo find it such, he can easily change the viewpoint by playing defense.
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Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#36 » by reub » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:23 pm

Sark wrote:Because he is THAT bad at defense, and his offense isn't efficient enough to make up for it.


I would take an empty suit over the Melo that we had last year. You know, the one that never tried on defense, disregarded the coach's plays, chucked and held the ball without guilt, and undermined the system.
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Re: RE: Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#37 » by Sark » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:26 pm

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Sark wrote:Because he is THAT bad at defense, and his offense isn't efficient enough to make up for it.

This pretty much sums up Melo at this stage of his career.

Its not disrespect either.

Now if Melo find it such, he can easily change the viewpoint by playing defense.


People confuse what he did in the past with what he is now.
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Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#38 » by Fat Kat » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:27 pm

Very disrespectful. Play some defense and shut them up Melo.
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Re: RE: Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#39 » by DaKnicksAreBack » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:27 pm

moocow007 wrote:
DaKnicksAreBack wrote:
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I'm not Melo fan, but the stats say otherwise though Melo is trending downward and Barnes improved from the season before. Still, Barnes's PER was a career high 16.2 (his career average is 12.8) while Melo's was 17.9 (career average of 20.9). But I'm open to persuasion.


I'm not really up on the whole per thing, but I do know barns is a better defender, more efficient scorer and more of a willing passer (even though he doesn't get a lot of assists).


The Mavericks were actually better offensively and defensively when he was not on the floor last season. Anthony? The Knicks were better with him on the floor offensively, worse defensively. As far as "more willing passer", not sure how you measure that but Carmelo Anthony's assist% last season was 2x as big as Barnes. Barnes does not pass simple as that. In fact among players with usage rates higher than 25% (meaning he gets a lot of touches offensively) his assist % was among the worst for non C's in the NBA. Anthony, despite the reputation as a ball hog, is a MUCH BETTER passer than Barnes (willing or not). From an efficiency standpoint Barne's TS% was only 0.5% better than Anthony's even though Barnes FG% was 2.5% better...so they really aren't that significant a separation there either. Barnes is a better defender than Anthony is really about the only clear win. But forget that, at least with Barnes there's an argument that they are close. Some of the other guys in that range (before Anthony) are jokes. Danny Green? Malcolm Brogdon? :lol:


Barnes may not get assists, but he doesn't take bad shots. He gives the ball up. Agreed on brogdon and green.
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Re: ESPN Ranks Carmelo Anthony as the 64th Best Player in the NBA 

Post#40 » by BeagleBoss » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:30 pm

Sounds about it being 64th when you're probably in the 400s defensively.

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