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2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#1021 » by NoLayupRule » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:35 pm

el13adnino wrote:Lmao at batum talk, last year he was pretty bad, this year he’s a little worst. He can’t make the hornets instant playoff contenders but for us he will?

no
but he could be the glue that connects our front court and back court


we still need a starting level PG but Batum is a solid defender and playmaker at the 3 and a very good defender
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Post#1022 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:37 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
el13adnino wrote:Lmao at batum talk, last year he was pretty bad, this year he’s a little worst. He can’t make the hornets instant playoff contenders but for us he will?

no
but he could be the glue that connects our front court and back court


we still need a starting level PG but Batum is a solid defender and playmaker at the 3 and a very good defender


He's being paid for the next 3 seasons with an average of over 25 million. Unless we're getting a pick/s, or dumping Noah, we should have no interest whatsoever in taking Batum on.
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Post#1023 » by rajajackal » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:04 am

thought it through. pass on kemba
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Post#1024 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:54 am

Not one mention of the Knicks on the 1/19 Realgm NBA trade rumors news thread. :lol: I'm telling y'all, no trades for us this deadline.

https://basketball.realgm.com/news/wiretap/tags/18/NBA-Trade-Rumor
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Post#1025 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:03 am

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Post#1026 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:54 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Utah open to trading Hood before the deadline for an expiring.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2755053-rodney-hood-trade-rumors-multiple-teams-interested-in-utah-swingman


Get him. Then get a dominant system coach. Seriously. Passing and length are key.

Frank
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Post#1027 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:06 am

basketboule wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Utah open to trading Hood before the deadline for an expiring.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2755053-rodney-hood-trade-rumors-multiple-teams-interested-in-utah-swingman


Get him. Then get a dominant system coach. Seriously. Passing and length are key.

Frank
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Hood
Beasley
KP


I''d love to see that lineup! :D

Yeah, I think Hood would be a good fit here. I hope MillsPerry is exploring this. We'd really be able to spread the floor with that group. Man, you see how much Beasley was attacking the rim tonight? I know he was only 5-13 FGs, but most other nights he hits some of those shots. He's really hustling on defense and looking to pass.
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Post#1028 » by Jeff Van Gully » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:51 pm

basketboule wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Utah open to trading Hood before the deadline for an expiring.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2755053-rodney-hood-trade-rumors-multiple-teams-interested-in-utah-swingman


Get him. Then get a dominant system coach. Seriously. Passing and length are key.

Frank
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Beasley
KP


hood is headed into RFA, which is why he's on the block utah doesn't want to pay him. what do you want to give him?
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Post#1029 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:30 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
basketboule wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Utah open to trading Hood before the deadline for an expiring.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2755053-rodney-hood-trade-rumors-multiple-teams-interested-in-utah-swingman


Get him. Then get a dominant system coach. Seriously. Passing and length are key.

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hood is headed into RFA, which is why he's on the block utah doesn't want to pay him. what do you want to give him?


I'd give him 3/$30-36M. He does have his flaws, I understand that.

Would you rather go with Doug? If we just wait to draft a SF, it could be a couple years before he developed. I'm open to other suggestions too.
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Post#1030 » by digitaldropoff » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:58 am

Rodney Hood is a lock to be injured for about 30 games a year....but other than that he's fine.
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Post#1031 » by Jeffrey » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:22 am

Why not just get Kidd-Gilchrist? His contract is decent at 12 million per year. Hood is going to want more than that, probably looking for THJR money.
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Post#1032 » by fatalogic » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:49 am

Jeffrey wrote:Why not just get Kidd-Gilchrist? His contract is decent at 12 million per year. Hood is going to want more than that, probably looking for THJR money.

A poor shooting team probably shouldn't go after a player who can't shoot. The spacing would be horrible.
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Post#1033 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:56 am

fatalogic wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:Why not just get Kidd-Gilchrist? His contract is decent at 12 million per year. Hood is going to want more than that, probably looking for THJR money.

A poor shooting team probably shouldn't go after a player who can't shoot. The spacing would be horrible.


I think he's shooting under 20% from 3.
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Post#1034 » by Jeffrey » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:20 am

LOL I thought he was a 3 and D guy. Nevermind then.

I would still go after guys like Jeremy Lamb/Mirotic or a cheaper option like Troy Daniels.
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Post#1035 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:21 am

Jeffrey wrote:LOL I thought he was a 3 and D guy. Nevermind then.

I would still go after guys like Jeremy Lamb/Mirotic or a cheaper option like Troy Daniels.


I kinda like Lamb too. He's making $7.5M. What are you going to pay him?
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Post#1036 » by Jeffrey » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:29 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:LOL I thought he was a 3 and D guy. Nevermind then.

I would still go after guys like Jeremy Lamb/Mirotic or a cheaper option like Troy Daniels.


I kinda like Lamb too. He's making $7.5M. What are you going to pay him?


He's a FA in 2019. Will have one more year before he ask for 12-15 million
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Post#1037 » by NYKHardKnock » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:44 am

Fire Jeff, Hire Fizdale
Trade Noah, Chi 2nd for Batum
Trade Lee to CLE for Frye, Shump and CLE 1st (cut Shump)
Trade Kanter and KOQ for mid 1st and expiring
4th pick: DeAndre Ayton
17th pick: Keita Bates-Diop
29th pick: Brandon McCoy
Resign Trey Burke 2yr/4m per
Resign Beas 3yr/8m per
Sign Marco 1 yr/3m
Sign Aron Baynes 1 yr/3m

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HC: David Fizdale
G-Trey Burke | Frank Ntilikina | Ron Baker
G-Tim Hardaway Jr. | Marco Belinelli
F-Nic Batum | Keita Bates-Diop | Lance Thomas
F-Kristaps Porzingis | Michael Beasley
C-DeAndre Ayton | Brandon McCoy | Aron Baynes
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Post#1038 » by Knicksfan20 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:58 am

Kristaps6_NYK wrote:Fire Jeff, Hire Fizdale
Trade Noah, Chi 2nd for Batum
Trade Lee to CLE for Frye, Shump and CLE 1st (cut Shump)
Trade Kanter and KOQ for mid 1st and expiring
4th pick: DeAndre Ayton
17th pick: Keita Bates-Diop
29th pick: Brandon McCoy
Resign Trey Burke 2yr/4m per
Resign Beas 3yr/8m per
Sign Marco 1 yr/3m
Sign Aron Baynes 1 yr/3m

2018-19 NYK
HC: David Fizdale
G-Trey Burke | Frank Ntilikina | Ron Baker
G-Tim Hardaway Jr. | Marco Belinelli
F-Nic Batum | Keita Bates-Diop | Lance Thomas
F-Kristaps Porzingis | Michael Beasley
C-DeAndre Ayton | Brandon McCoy | Aron Baynes


You had me at fire Jeff
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Post#1039 » by TheDavinciCHODE » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:23 am

I'm not sure why anyone is talking about making trades to bring in overpaid veterans. That is not the kind of direction this team needs to go in.

Perhaps our decent start has gotten into people's heads. This is the first year of a rebuild and we are not a good team. we should not be making deals to try and make ourselves a playoff team. We need to be doing the opposite. We actually have some assets

CLee
KOQ
Beasley

Kanter might even be an asset, too. Though I think it's better to keep him and see if he opts in at the end of the year. Then his expiring deal will be a major asset.

We should either A) be taking on some bad contracts for bad players and acquiring picks for doing so or B) selling off our veterans for any assets we can. If that's a pick, so be it. If it's a prospect that fits our timeline, then so be it.

The only trade we should make that brings in a good player would be one that brings in a legit superstar that fits KP's timeline, and that player or trade really doesn't exist.

Bringing in Batum would be terrible for this franchise. He's 30 and getting worse by the day. He's still a good player, but not the kind of guy we need. Bringing him in

A) straps our books for the next 3 years completely
B) makes us slightly better not still not good
C) short-circuits our rebuild


We need young players and draft picks. Sure, bringing in veterans here or there on good deals is fine, but trading for a guy on a near max deal that will also cap us out completely for the next 3 seasons without producing major results will tank this franchise and keep us on the treadmill. The right plan for the Knicks is

A) sell off veterans for any assets and clear some extra space
B) win 32 games, pick 8-10th or finagle something on draft day to move up (maybe our pick + chicago's pick + WHG for #5-6?)
C) trade Kanter's expiring deal for something or try to convince him to opt out and sign for a smaller amount to be the backup center

Roll forward with a core of KP/Frank/THJ/Top 10 pick/

KP has already played above expectations despite his dip recently, and a lot of that can be attributed to the load he has to carry on offense and of course that weird ankle tweek he had earlier. The good news is that Frank has shown he has all the tools to be a very good player and THJ has performed above expectations. I honestly think he is going to average 20ppg next season. Add in someone like Collin Sexton and we have something really good cooking.

in the 18-19 season, the only bad long-term money on our books will be Noah.

Great teams are not built overnight. This is year 1. We should not be trading for ANY long-term, max-deal guys.

If you told me that in 18-19 we would be going into the season with KP/THJ/Frank/top 10 pick + future assets intact and cap space coming in 19-20, then I'd be happy. If we make some small vet signing or deal here and there like bringing back McBuckets on the cheap, that's fine. We're a borderline playoff team now and barely have any talent. We need be aiming to be good in 19-20.

If the right deal comes along for a star, we can pounce. Nobody expected PG to be where he is now. Same with Butler. You never know what's going to happen.

The last thing we need is to bring in guys who will get us right back on the treadmill.
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Post#1040 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:23 am

Wily is so gone.

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