Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)
Posted: Fri Feb 9, 2018 4:18 am
We never had a chance to develop Papanikolaou...this is our chance to get Papagiannis.
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Kristaps6_NYK wrote:Let's say Mudiay comes in, wins over Jeff and puts up anywhere from 12-15 PPG 4-6 APG 2-4 RPG
He can be the start point guard for the future..
We will probably fall into the top 5 into the draft although itll be an all out tank war. I just think we're bad enough...
I assume guys like Ayton, Bagley and Doncic is top 3.. 4/5 is Porter Jr. / T.Young .. So let's say we finish with the 4th or 5th pick.. and you take Porter. (I know Porter and Porzingis injuries but it can work)
Will Barton 3 y / 12 m
Jeff Green 1 y / 5 m
Wilson Chander 2 y / 7m
G:Emmanuel Mudiay | Frank Ntilikina | Trey Burke
G:Will Barton | Tim Hardaway Jr. | Ron Baker
F:Michael Porter Jr. | Wilson Chandler
F:Jeff Green | Lance Thomas | Luke Kornet
C:Kristaps Porzingis | Kyle O'Quinn
knicksh20b wrote:Kristaps6_NYK wrote:Let's say Mudiay comes in, wins over Jeff and puts up anywhere from 12-15 PPG 4-6 APG 2-4 RPG
He can be the start point guard for the future..
We will probably fall into the top 5 into the draft although itll be an all out tank war. I just think we're bad enough...
I assume guys like Ayton, Bagley and Doncic is top 3.. 4/5 is Porter Jr. / T.Young .. So let's say we finish with the 4th or 5th pick.. and you take Porter. (I know Porter and Porzingis injuries but it can work)
Will Barton 3 y / 12 m
Jeff Green 1 y / 5 m
Wilson Chander 2 y / 7m
G:Emmanuel Mudiay | Frank Ntilikina | Trey Burke
G:Will Barton | Tim Hardaway Jr. | Ron Baker
F:Michael Porter Jr. | Wilson Chandler
F:Jeff Green | Lance Thomas | Luke Kornet
C:Kristaps Porzingis | Kyle O'Quinn
Jeff Green is bad man. Also THJ is making too much money not to be considered a starter, although I do like Barton. We're going to be tanking next season too. 2019 is our goal.
Kristaps6_NYK wrote:Let's say Mudiay comes in, wins over Jeff and puts up anywhere from 12-15 PPG 4-6 APG 2-4 RPG
He can be the start point guard for the future..
We will probably fall into the top 5 into the draft although itll be an all out tank war. I just think we're bad enough...
I assume guys like Ayton, Bagley and Doncic is top 3.. 4/5 is Porter Jr. / T.Young .. So let's say we finish with the 4th or 5th pick.. and you take Porter. (I know Porter and Porzingis injuries but it can work)
Will Barton 3 y / 12 m
Jeff Green 1 y / 5 m
Wilson Chander 2 y / 7m
G:Emmanuel Mudiay | Frank Ntilikina | Trey Burke
G:Will Barton | Tim Hardaway Jr. | Ron Baker
F:Michael Porter Jr. | Wilson Chandler
F:Jeff Green | Lance Thomas | Luke Kornet
C:Kristaps Porzingis | Kyle O'Quinn
12 per yeardigitaldropoff wrote:Kristaps6_NYK wrote:Let's say Mudiay comes in, wins over Jeff and puts up anywhere from 12-15 PPG 4-6 APG 2-4 RPG
He can be the start point guard for the future..
We will probably fall into the top 5 into the draft although itll be an all out tank war. I just think we're bad enough...
I assume guys like Ayton, Bagley and Doncic is top 3.. 4/5 is Porter Jr. / T.Young .. So let's say we finish with the 4th or 5th pick.. and you take Porter. (I know Porter and Porzingis injuries but it can work)
Will Barton 3 y / 12 m
Jeff Green 1 y / 5 m
Wilson Chander 2 y / 7m
G:Emmanuel Mudiay | Frank Ntilikina | Trey Burke
G:Will Barton | Tim Hardaway Jr. | Ron Baker
F:Michael Porter Jr. | Wilson Chandler
F:Jeff Green | Lance Thomas | Luke Kornet
C:Kristaps Porzingis | Kyle O'Quinn
Wil Barton and his agent laugh at your 4 million per year. He's easily outperformed that salary. Also, starting the thing off with Mudiay as the PG makes it fail before it can even fly.
Kristaps6_NYK wrote:12 per yeardigitaldropoff wrote:Kristaps6_NYK wrote:Let's say Mudiay comes in, wins over Jeff and puts up anywhere from 12-15 PPG 4-6 APG 2-4 RPG
He can be the start point guard for the future..
We will probably fall into the top 5 into the draft although itll be an all out tank war. I just think we're bad enough...
I assume guys like Ayton, Bagley and Doncic is top 3.. 4/5 is Porter Jr. / T.Young .. So let's say we finish with the 4th or 5th pick.. and you take Porter. (I know Porter and Porzingis injuries but it can work)
Will Barton 3 y / 12 m
Jeff Green 1 y / 5 m
Wilson Chander 2 y / 7m
G:Emmanuel Mudiay | Frank Ntilikina | Trey Burke
G:Will Barton | Tim Hardaway Jr. | Ron Baker
F:Michael Porter Jr. | Wilson Chandler
F:Jeff Green | Lance Thomas | Luke Kornet
C:Kristaps Porzingis | Kyle O'Quinn
Wil Barton and his agent laugh at your 4 million per year. He's easily outperformed that salary. Also, starting the thing off with Mudiay as the PG makes it fail before it can even fly.
BowlRips wrote:Kristaps6_NYK wrote:12 per yeardigitaldropoff wrote:
Wil Barton and his agent laugh at your 4 million per year. He's easily outperformed that salary. Also, starting the thing off with Mudiay as the PG makes it fail before it can even fly.
No one is getting more than 9mil this year unless theres a sign and trade.
Only teams with real cap space are either in a midst of a full rebuild (Nets, Orlando, Chicago, Dallas, Sacramento PHX) and Lakers and Sixers.
Half the teams in the league are going to be at the tax line limiting them to taxpayers MLE of around $5mil..
The other half going to have the 8.9mil exception.
There's a reason why Lou Will took a 2 year 16mil extension. He knew he wouldn't sign with any of those cap space teams and the contenders would be limited to 5-9million a year.
It is going to be a depressed market
dakomish23 wrote:knicksh20b wrote:Kristaps6_NYK wrote:Let's say Mudiay comes in, wins over Jeff and puts up anywhere from 12-15 PPG 4-6 APG 2-4 RPG
He can be the start point guard for the future..
We will probably fall into the top 5 into the draft although itll be an all out tank war. I just think we're bad enough...
I assume guys like Ayton, Bagley and Doncic is top 3.. 4/5 is Porter Jr. / T.Young .. So let's say we finish with the 4th or 5th pick.. and you take Porter. (I know Porter and Porzingis injuries but it can work)
Will Barton 3 y / 12 m
Jeff Green 1 y / 5 m
Wilson Chander 2 y / 7m
G:Emmanuel Mudiay | Frank Ntilikina | Trey Burke
G:Will Barton | Tim Hardaway Jr. | Ron Baker
F:Michael Porter Jr. | Wilson Chandler
F:Jeff Green | Lance Thomas | Luke Kornet
C:Kristaps Porzingis | Kyle O'Quinn
Jeff Green is bad man. Also THJ is making too much money not to be considered a starter, although I do like Barton. We're going to be tanking next season too. 2019 is our goal.
We had STAT, making more money in a way smaller cap environment, coming off the bench.
If you’re saying the FO wouldn’t let that happen b/c they just paid so much for him, yeah, I could believe that Mills cares more about his purchases looking good than team output.
knicksh20b wrote:dakomish23 wrote:knicksh20b wrote:
Jeff Green is bad man. Also THJ is making too much money not to be considered a starter, although I do like Barton. We're going to be tanking next season too. 2019 is our goal.
We had STAT, making more money in a way smaller cap environment, coming off the bench.
If you’re saying the FO wouldn’t let that happen b/c they just paid so much for him, yeah, I could believe that Mills cares more about his purchases looking good than team output.
STAT was not serviceable. Same with Noah. THJ is good enough and earning enough that we don't need a scrub like Jeff Green at PF. And the guy is a bonafide scrub.
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:
Me too. You know Pat is good at unearthing gems.
I think there’ll be some options but I like White.
Maybe Shabazz once he’s bought out?
If the Rox sign Joe Johnson, maybe they cut Troy Williams? He’s an intriguing athletic 3 man.
Reign23 wrote:we are paying kanter, noah, timmy, lee and thomas a combined 73.850.944 $ next season incredible.
thebuzzardman wrote:Reign23 wrote:we are paying kanter, noah, timmy, lee and thomas a combined 73.850.944 $ next season incredible.
Knicks best chance at become even remotely decent are:
Getting lucky enough to get high enough in this draft so that even they can't blow the pick
KP is out until February and the Knicks are a top tank team next year, and KP coming back during the season doesn't produce wins
They hit on the draft a 2nd time. They let Kanter expire but do NOT slot anyone into his salary space. Maybe KOQ gets a raise to 9 millon (+5 million) and Kanter leaves -18 million) and Knicks save 13 million.
They play yet another season, but now KP is back in full and they have two relatively high picks joining him and some combination of THJr\CLee\Frank and/or Burke and/or Mudiay etc and they aren't all that good but not bad and pick in teens.
After 2.5 seasons, Noah, CLee, LFT expire and Knicks have 38 million for FA, + 13 million of KOQ vs Enes savings = 51 million, though in there they have to make a decision on KP, which would what, eat up 1/2 that? They'd still have room for one max cat if he resigns. Which I'm not sure about anymore.
Capn'O wrote:Think we can still get Kemba?
thebuzzardman wrote:Reign23 wrote:we are paying kanter, noah, timmy, lee and thomas a combined 73.850.944 $ next season incredible.
Knicks best chance at become even remotely decent are:
Getting lucky enough to get high enough in this draft so that even they can't blow the pick
KP is out until February and the Knicks are a top tank team next year, and KP coming back during the season doesn't produce wins
They hit on the draft a 2nd time. They let Kanter expire but do NOT slot anyone into his salary space. Maybe KOQ gets a raise to 9 millon (+5 million) and Kanter leaves -18 million) and Knicks save 13 million.
They play yet another season, but now KP is back in full and they have two relatively high picks joining him and some combination of THJr\CLee\Frank and/or Burke and/or Mudiay etc and they aren't all that good but not bad and pick in teens.
After 2.5 seasons, Noah, CLee, LFT expire and Knicks have 38 million for FA, + 13 million of KOQ vs Enes savings = 51 million, though in there they have to make a decision on KP, which would what, eat up 1/2 that? They'd still have room for one max cat if he resigns. Which I'm not sure about anymore.