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2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#21 » by JXL » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:32 pm

Kanter, Lee and KOQ are going to be traded at the trade deadline.
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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#22 » by camillepd » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:43 pm

Good.
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Post#23 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:05 pm

JXL wrote:Kanter, Lee and KOQ are going to be traded at the trade deadline.


I think only KOQ gets moved. I think they are at least semi-interested in Kanter because he's young. KOQ is the odd man out because of Noah which sucks.
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Post#24 » by Mecca » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:54 pm

I would like Pitino once we fire Hornacek. Have to think that Pitino is returning to the NBA.
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Post#25 » by Ralphie96 » Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:42 pm

Besart19 wrote:Kanter, Kuz and/or Lance, TPE

For Harkless, Davis and Aminu


i like this one. didn't the blazers offer kanter the deal he is currently on and okc matched?

maybe they still want him.
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Post#26 » by falcindor » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:12 am

Id like to keep Kanter.

Lance, Ron, KOQ for Tobias Harris
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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#27 » by Knickerbock » Mon Oct 2, 2017 6:23 pm

To be honest.. I hope that the Knicks never trade Kyle O'quin and he ends up being a Nick Collison or Udonis Haslem. Just a player everyone can look up too.

I mean he is just a great person to have on your team. Always working hard, very good dude off the court, and tough as nails on the court. Every time I look at the Knicks bench, Kyle is the first one up supporting his teammates. He is always making jokes and keeping everyone positive, even when the organization is in total dysfunction.

I know Ntilkina, Porzingis, and Kanter have been the focus of our attention, but Kyle O'quin actually looks really good right now. He slimmed down a lot this summer. He is moving a lot faster and much more agile. Im very interested in how coach horny will divide the minutes at Center this year.
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Post#28 » by dakomish23 » Tue Oct 3, 2017 12:11 pm

A possible trade partner could be LAC. Both Decker & Harrell may be 3rd on the depth charts st their positions. Idc to trade for Harrell because of our glut, but LAC may look to upgrade if Harrell and Reed can't handle the backup C minutes.

KOQ for Decker Harrell works.

Or if Dad Rivers is ready to let him go and they want an upgrade at SG, a Lee for Rivers / Decker swap works as well.

I think Decker could be a good fit with the Frank KP WHG THJ group.

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Post#29 » by Reign23 » Tue Oct 3, 2017 12:48 pm

Lee, O'Quinn, Kuz for Harkless, Leonard and a future second.
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Post#30 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Oct 3, 2017 12:51 pm

Decker from the Clippers? Hell yeah!

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Post#31 » by dakomish23 » Wed Oct 4, 2017 7:29 pm

An idea proposed by a non NYK fan

Nader/Larkin/1st for KOQ/that 2nd they got in the Melo deal

Where do I sign?
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Post#32 » by mpharris36 » Wed Oct 4, 2017 7:37 pm

dakomish23 wrote:An idea proposed by a non NYK fan

Nader/Larkin/1st for KOQ/that 2nd they got in the Melo deal

Where do I sign?


um why?

so we basically trade KOQ to move up a few spots in the draft?

they ain't getting the CHI 2nd rounder.
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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#33 » by dakomish23 » Wed Oct 4, 2017 8:36 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:An idea proposed by a non NYK fan

Nader/Larkin/1st for KOQ/that 2nd they got in the Melo deal

Where do I sign?


um why?

so we basically trade KOQ to move up a few spots in the draft?

they ain't getting the CHI 2nd rounder.


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Abdel Nader cashes in bet on himself with Boston Celtics contract

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BOSTON -- In the dry, suffocating heat of Las Vegas, visitors arrive from near and far to gamble, drink and party. Abdel Nader flew into the city late last month with an entirely different agenda -- to make an NBA team -- but still cashed out one of the biggest bets of his life.

Nader had turned down a heap of money to stay closer to his NBA dream. He had believed in himself, and this was his reward: a four-year, $6-million contract (with one fully-guaranteed season) that he signed, appropriately, in the Encore Casino, to become the NBA's second Egyptian player.

"Obviously, I was very excited," Nader said in a phone interview earlier this week. "I had worked toward this point for a long time."

One year before signing the contract, Nader had sat down with his agent, Cervando Tejeda, to discuss options for the future. By the time of the meeting, Nader had already proven a load of evaluators wrong by convincing the Boston Celtics to draft him 58th overall then emerging as a worthy slasher for the team's summer league entry.

But even after Nader's strong summer showing, the Celtics didn't have room for him on the roster last season.

Tejeda said he laid out a substantial offer from a Russian team, but advised Nader against signing it. Though it was worth more than a dozen times what Nader would make in the D-League (now G-League), it would have taken the forward away from NBA scouts, taken him thousands of miles, literally, away from his goal. Tejeda recommended Nader take the Celtics' offer to play for their D-League affiliate, the Maine Red Claws.

"I told him you can take $350,000 now," Tejeda said, "or you can go to the D-League for $25,000, work your butt off and get a contract next year."

Despite all the money on the table, Nader chose the latter option. For years, he had been positioning himself to reach the NBA. When he transferred from Northern Illinois to Iowa State midway through his collegiate career -- "the best thing I've ever done in my life," he says now -- he did so partly to compete for a more well-known team in front of NBA scouts. Even back then, he had considered a rise to the to the world's best basketball within reach.

At Iowa State, Nader valued his time with Fred Hoiberg, who helped round out his decision-making; the rest of the coaching staff, which pushed him toward individual goals others had scoffed at; and his veteran teammates, who set a high standard in the program.

"It changed my life," Nader said.

But after his senior season ended, Nader realized he still had work to do.

"I wasn't on any mock drafts," he recalled.

So Nader worked out for 17 NBA teams. Even in the hectic pre-draft process, that put him among the busiest prospects. He wanted to force his name into a team's plans.

"It was kind of like, 'Man, I'm getting no love,'" he remembered. "It was kind of demoralizing. But the key is, man, don't ever get discouraged no matter what happens. A bad game, bad workout, you can't get discouraged -- especially in basketball, because there's too many things that could go your way or not go your way."

While in the D-League, Nader stayed in communication with the Celtics mostly through director of scouting Dave Lewin. The organization pushed Nader to work on his defensive positioning, shooting consistency and overall decision-making. He realized the opportunity in front of him. If he played well enough, he knew, Boston might offer an NBA contract the following season.

The 6-foot-6, 230-pounder averaged 21.3 points, 6.2 rebounds and 3.9 assists, enough to win the D-League Rookie of the Year award.

"I'm grateful for everything (the Celtics) have done for me. They've looked out for me," Nader said. "My mindset going into the season was just kill everything, man. I wanted to kill everybody. The best players that were put in front of me, I wanted to attack them. I wanted to prove to the Boston Celtics that I'm ready."

Still, Nader arrived at this month's summer league without a promise of a contract. He didn't know the Celtics would extend an offer until shortly before he agreed to it. By the time the deal was put on paper, he didn't care where he signed it. Since the team was staying at Encore, he finalized it there.

The Celtics, with 16 guaranteed contracts, will have a training camp competition for roster spots. Nader believes his year with the Red Claws, who run a lot of the same stuff, should help him once practices arrive.

He has cashed in one bet, but the journey continues.

"I just have to take advantage of the opportunities that are given to me -- which I know I will -- and just go from there," Nader said. "Because I can really play any position 1-4. So someway, somehow, I know I'll get an opportunity. And like I said, I'll just try to prove myself with every opportunity that I'm given."


Abdel Nader Is A Solid Last Resort At SF

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After a Rookie of the Year worthy showing in the NBA G League last season, forward Abdel Nader earned a deal with the Celtics over the past few weeks.

While two other budding small forwards – Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum – might have stolen the fanfare throughout the NBA Summer League, second-year pro Abdel Nader quietly convinced general manager Danny Ainge into opening up a spot for him on the 15-man roster.

The Iowa State product nudged guard Demetrius Jackson out of his role on the team, fitting the mold of the current NBA rotation player.

He is a competent ball-handler with the build of a powerful small forward at 6’6″, 230 pounds, and has the ability to guard multiple positions on the floor. His foot speed allowed him to stay with some of the quickest guards in the G League last season while his bulk gives him the authority to hold off stronger forwards closer to the basket.

Nader is exactly the type of player that NBA coaches covet in their rotation, boasting a solid offensive game as well. He impressed in last year’s Summer League, and this effectiveness translated to a stellar campaign with the Maine Red Claws in which he garnered G League Rookie of the Year honors.

A high-volume scorer for Maine, Nader posted 21.3 points per game while shooting 44.7 percent from the field and 34.9 percent from three-point land. His rebounding average of 6.2 per night was impressive for someone below 6’7″, and his 3.9 assists per game showcased his capability of running the offense and creating for his teammates.

He garnered a 20.6 percent assist percentage, exemplifying the notion that the Red Claws trusted him to control the ball at a high rate.

The only concern with Nader’s offensive performance with Maine was his propensity to turn the ball over. His 3.7 turnovers per night with the Red Claws was certainly startling, however, his significant 28.8 percent usage rate made the turnover numbers more understandable.

Being in the G League while receiving a tremendous amount of play making freedom, Nader was encouraged to force the issue and take risks with the ball. This led to an inflation of his turnover rate, something which will be quelled in the NBA as he will be taking on a lesser role in terms of handling the ball.

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To begin the season, Nader will most likely be riding the pine behind the likes of Brown, Tatum, Jae Crowder, and the newly-added Gordon Hayward. However, one of these options go down with the injury bug, expect Nader to receive some opportunities on the second unit.
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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#34 » by Knickerbock » Wed Oct 4, 2017 9:22 pm

Now how does one pull Stanley Johnson from the Detroit Pistons?

Stanley does not seem to be making any progress in the NBA. Is he even worth pursing ?
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Post#35 » by Thorn » Fri Oct 6, 2017 1:50 pm

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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#36 » by Are We Ther Yet » Fri Oct 6, 2017 2:02 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Decker from the Clippers? Hell yeah!

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Dekker?

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Decker? I'd rather Baller.........
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Post#37 » by dakomish23 » Fri Oct 6, 2017 4:18 pm

If Abrines is struggling, let's do OKC NYK Rd 2

Abrines
Singler
Huestis
Ferguson

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Lee
KOQ
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What can we get for Courtney Lee? 

Post#38 » by DaKnicksAreBack » Fri Oct 6, 2017 7:27 pm

I’m thinking two seconds or a late first. I look at him as an above average defensive player and an extremely average offensive player. Couple that with the fact that he’s 32 and getting 12 million a year, I don’t think many teams would be knocking on our door willing to give up assets for him.
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Post#39 » by seren » Fri Oct 6, 2017 7:35 pm

A late first is something Indiana couldn't get for Paul George. A late first was included in Chris Paul package. Are you saying Lee is more like Chris Paul?

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Post#40 » by SmoothLefty21 » Fri Oct 6, 2017 7:38 pm

A mid-round 2nd. He's an average bench role player on a higher end playoff team.

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