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2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

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Re: What can we get for Courtney Lee? 

Post#41 » by DaKnicksAreBack » Fri Oct 6, 2017 7:41 pm

seren wrote:A late first is something Indiana couldn't get for Paul George. A late first was included in Chris Paul package. Are you saying Lee is more like Chris Paul?

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No, but at the same time, Lakers got a late first for Lou Williams, nets got a late first for bogdanavich, and the blazers got a first for plumlee, so getting back a first, while not guaranteed, isn’t out of the question.
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Re: What can we get for Courtney Lee? 

Post#42 » by dakomish23 » Sun Oct 8, 2017 7:00 pm

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seren wrote:A late first is something Indiana couldn't get for Paul George. A late first was included in Chris Paul package. Are you saying Lee is more like Chris Paul?

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No, but at the same time, Lakers got a late first for Lou Williams, nets got a late first for bogdanavich, and the blazers got a first for plumlee, so getting back a first, while not guaranteed, isn’t out of the question.


Both LAL & BKN too back a bad contract in the transaction.
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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#43 » by seren » Mon Oct 9, 2017 2:30 pm

We may need to go to bad contract route. Especially given this team looks awfully bad anyways. Minnesota is trying to move Aldrich and want some veteran help. If it means to get a first round pick from them, we should do that. Milwaukee is trying to unload Teletovic and Henson for cap reasons. We may have an opportunity there too.

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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#44 » by mpharris36 » Mon Oct 9, 2017 2:36 pm

seren wrote:We may need to go to bad contract route. Especially given this team looks awfully bad anyways. Minnesota is trying to move Aldrich and want some veteran help. If it means to get a first round pick from them, we should do that. Milwaukee is trying to unload Teletovic and Henson for cap reasons. We may have an opportunity there too.

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KOQ for Aldrich and a 1st makes some sense. I would do it.
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Re: What can we get for Courtney Lee? 

Post#45 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Oct 9, 2017 3:58 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
DaKnicksAreBack wrote:
seren wrote:A late first is something Indiana couldn't get for Paul George. A late first was included in Chris Paul package. Are you saying Lee is more like Chris Paul?

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No, but at the same time, Lakers got a late first for Lou Williams, nets got a late first for bogdanavich, and the blazers got a first for plumlee, so getting back a first, while not guaranteed, isn’t out of the question.


Both LAL & BKN too back a bad contract in the transaction.


Knicks could do that too. Oh, Noah and Hardaway have used up all the cap room
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Re: RE: Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#46 » by seren » Mon Oct 9, 2017 4:15 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
seren wrote:We may need to go to bad contract route. Especially given this team looks awfully bad anyways. Minnesota is trying to move Aldrich and want some veteran help. If it means to get a first round pick from them, we should do that. Milwaukee is trying to unload Teletovic and Henson for cap reasons. We may have an opportunity there too.

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KOQ for Aldrich and a 1st makes some sense. I would do it.

I don't think OQuinn has that kind of value. My thinking was more like Lee.

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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#47 » by BowlRips » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:47 pm

saw on trade board a magic fan proposed DJ Augstin and OKC1st rounder for O'Quinn..
Pretty solid deal if you ask me... I know Augustin had 3 years 21mil remaining but he can be a true vet stop gap.. plus the pick prob in the 22-26 range sounds pretty decent.. dont think we can get a 1st for O'Quinn unless we take back a bad contract and of all the bad contracts out there Augstin might actually be able to help on the court
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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#48 » by magnumt » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:55 pm

BowlRips wrote:saw on trade board a magic fan proposed DJ Augstin and OKC1st rounder for O'Quinn..
Pretty solid deal if you ask me... I know Augustin had 3 years 21mil remaining but he can be a true vet stop gap.. plus the pick prob in the 22-26 range sounds pretty decent.. dont think we can get a 1st for O'Quinn unless we take back a bad contract and of all the bad contracts out there Augstin might actually be able to help on the court


I'd do that in heartbeat and figure out the PG glut later on. :D

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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#49 » by BowlRips » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:59 pm

magnumt wrote:
BowlRips wrote:saw on trade board a magic fan proposed DJ Augstin and OKC1st rounder for O'Quinn..
Pretty solid deal if you ask me... I know Augustin had 3 years 21mil remaining but he can be a true vet stop gap.. plus the pick prob in the 22-26 range sounds pretty decent.. dont think we can get a 1st for O'Quinn unless we take back a bad contract and of all the bad contracts out there Augstin might actually be able to help on the court


I'd do that in heartbeat and figure out the PG glut later on. :D

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Ah just looked into this..
That OKC pick is 2020
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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#50 » by magnumt » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:09 pm

BowlRips wrote:
magnumt wrote:
BowlRips wrote:saw on trade board a magic fan proposed DJ Augstin and OKC1st rounder for O'Quinn..
Pretty solid deal if you ask me... I know Augustin had 3 years 21mil remaining but he can be a true vet stop gap.. plus the pick prob in the 22-26 range sounds pretty decent.. dont think we can get a 1st for O'Quinn unless we take back a bad contract and of all the bad contracts out there Augstin might actually be able to help on the court


I'd do that in heartbeat and figure out the PG glut later on. :D

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Ah just looked into this..
That OKC pick is 2020


Still not a bad trade. In 3 years Melo and George might be just about done. Also, IIRC, Augustin only has about 2 years on his deal. :dontknow:

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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#51 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:46 pm

Begley's saying 2020 before we can dive into free agency. :roll:

Also says that teams are interested in Lance and Kyle.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20975185/why-new-york-knicks-need-build-draft-nba
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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#52 » by reub » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:28 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Begley's saying 2020 before we can dive into free agency. :roll:

Also says that teams are interested in Lance and Kyle.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20975185/why-new-york-knicks-need-build-draft-nba


I still want Harkless or Kidd-Gilchrest. I would even take NDour back for his potential defense.
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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#53 » by 2010 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:04 pm

Anyone interested in another center that is on the market?

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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#54 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:17 pm

2010 wrote:Anyone interested in another center that is on the market?

http://nypost.com/2017/10/12/jahlil-okafor-im-the-sad-cautionary-tale-of-76ers-process/

i would take him over kanter 10/10 times and never look back
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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#55 » by Mecca » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:26 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
2010 wrote:Anyone interested in another center that is on the market?

http://nypost.com/2017/10/12/jahlil-okafor-im-the-sad-cautionary-tale-of-76ers-process/

i would take him over kanter 10/10 times and never look back


they are the same exact player tho lol
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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#56 » by WajaBawl » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:31 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
2010 wrote:Anyone interested in another center that is on the market?

http://nypost.com/2017/10/12/jahlil-okafor-im-the-sad-cautionary-tale-of-76ers-process/

i would take him over kanter 10/10 times and never look back


It's crazy to think how big of a bullet we dodged there by dropping to the 4th overall pick in the 2015 draft. Reports where out that Jackson (and half this board) also wanted Okafor badly. Basketball gods really blessed us by screwing us over :lol:
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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#57 » by reub » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:08 pm

When has Okafor ever come close to averaging a WS48 of .200 for three straight seasons? Only in his dreams.
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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#58 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:45 pm

Mecca wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
2010 wrote:Anyone interested in another center that is on the market?

http://nypost.com/2017/10/12/jahlil-okafor-im-the-sad-cautionary-tale-of-76ers-process/

i would take him over kanter 10/10 times and never look back


they are the same exact player tho lol

meh
he's still young and has look improved so far in the preseason IMO

i mean it's better than being stuck with kanter lol
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Post#59 » by Mecca » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:04 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
Mecca wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:i would take him over kanter 10/10 times and never look back


they are the same exact player tho lol

meh
he's still young and has look improved so far in the preseason IMO

i mean it's better than being stuck with kanter lol


I mean, it's basically like getting a 3-4 year younger Kanter. Games are identical.
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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#60 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:29 am

Mecca wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Mecca wrote:
they are the same exact player tho lol

meh
he's still young and has look improved so far in the preseason IMO

i mean it's better than being stuck with kanter lol


I mean, it's basically like getting a 3-4 year younger Kanter. Games are identical.

idk
okafor looked better on the defensive side so far and his motor was better too
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