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Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us

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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1541 » by Dr. Detfink » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:21 pm

He's fine. Look, teams are now throwing multiple defenders and slapping a figure 4 leglock on him. It's up to the rest of the Knicks to make them pay for that.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1542 » by NY 567 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:08 pm

I do not think Porzingis is a power forward, he's a center, and we're doing him and the team a disservice not playing him at Center. He's one of the best rim protectors in the league, he shouldn't be wearing himself out chasing stretch 4s all game. He's not going to have the endurance to play PF all year either. At the 5, he'd anchor our defense and he would literally be unguardable. Start Beasley next to him and get rid of all these serviceable but unspectacular backup centers.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1543 » by fatalogic » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:34 pm

NY 567 wrote:I do not think Porzingis is a power forward, he's a center, and we're doing him and the team a disservice not playing him at Center. He's one of the best rim protectors in the league, he shouldn't be wearing himself out chasing stretch 4s all game. He's not going to have the endurance to play PF all year either. At the 5, he'd anchor our defense and he would literally be unguardable. Start Beasley next to him and get rid of all these serviceable but unspectacular backup centers.


I feel like the last few games says otherwise. KP's body is not ready for center duty. Running around chasing stretch 4s is preferable to banging in the post from a longevity and rebounding perspective. At this point in his career he is best served having a high volume re bounder and post defender next to him.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1544 » by Oscirus » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:11 pm

Being tall doesn't make someone a center. KP's a PF through and through
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1545 » by NY 567 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:28 pm

Oscirus wrote:Being tall doesn't make someone a center. KP's a PF through and through


Arguably his best asset, rim protection, is wasted at the PF position. Centers also can't guard him on the perimeter or in the pick and pop. And at 7'3, he's not going to have the stamina to play PF the whole year. He's going to start breaking down like he did last year.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1546 » by NY 567 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:29 pm

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NY 567 wrote:I do not think Porzingis is a power forward, he's a center, and we're doing him and the team a disservice not playing him at Center. He's one of the best rim protectors in the league, he shouldn't be wearing himself out chasing stretch 4s all game. He's not going to have the endurance to play PF all year either. At the 5, he'd anchor our defense and he would literally be unguardable. Start Beasley next to him and get rid of all these serviceable but unspectacular backup centers.


I feel like the last few games says otherwise. KP's body is not ready for center duty. Running around chasing stretch 4s is preferable to banging in the post from a longevity and rebounding perspective. At this point in his career he is best served having a high volume re bounder and post defender next to him.


I think the banging at Center would be easier to handle than the energy expended at PF, which is eventually going to hurt him on both sides of the floor, it arguably already has this year less than 20 games in.

Really though, it would probably be for the best for him to split time at both positions, and no, I don't consider the last 4 or 5 minutes of the game at Center a split. Something like 18 at Center next to Beasley or Thomas, and 18 at PF next to Kanter.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1547 » by Oscirus » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:43 am

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Oscirus wrote:Being tall doesn't make someone a center. KP's a PF through and through


Arguably his best asset, rim protection, is wasted at the PF position. Centers also can't guard him on the perimeter or in the pick and pop. And at 7'3, he's not going to have the stamina to play PF the whole year. He's going to start breaking down like he did last year.

He protects just fine from the PF position. It really doesn't matter what position he plays, he'll normally draw the teams best defender be it a center pf or even a small forward.

Center's harder on the body then PF due to all the constant banging.




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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1548 » by KnickFan33 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:58 pm

Here's Kristaps Porzingis on his new approach to training in season this year: "What I've done this year is I'm putting a lot less work on the basketball court. I'm working a lot less I would say than the years before, trying to save all my energy and putting that in the weight room and getting as much rest as possible. That's the key for me, staying strong during the season. If I can maintain my body compact and strong then all the physicality is not going to drain me as much. It's all about me lifting and getting rest."


I'm not sure what to make of this. He should definitely be working on getting stronger, but should still be working on his game. Thoughts?
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1549 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:16 pm

KnickFan33 wrote:
Here's Kristaps Porzingis on his new approach to training in season this year: "What I've done this year is I'm putting a lot less work on the basketball court. I'm working a lot less I would say than the years before, trying to save all my energy and putting that in the weight room and getting as much rest as possible. That's the key for me, staying strong during the season. If I can maintain my body compact and strong then all the physicality is not going to drain me as much. It's all about me lifting and getting rest."


I'm not sure what to make of this. He should definitely be working on getting stronger, but should still be working on his game. Thoughts?


I don't think anyone has questioned KP's skill level even though he could be a better passer and more aware on offense in general. The key for him is to stay strong throughout the season because it seems like fatigue bothers him more than anything else does. When he's going he's nearly unstoppable as we saw the first 10 games of the season.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1550 » by Kurt Rambis » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:21 pm

KnickFan33 wrote:
Here's Kristaps Porzingis on his new approach to training in season this year: "What I've done this year is I'm putting a lot less work on the basketball court. I'm working a lot less I would say than the years before, trying to save all my energy and putting that in the weight room and getting as much rest as possible. That's the key for me, staying strong during the season. If I can maintain my body compact and strong then all the physicality is not going to drain me as much. It's all about me lifting and getting rest."


I'm not sure what to make of this. He should definitely be working on getting stronger, but should still be working on his game. Thoughts?


Off season is for working on his skills.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1551 » by j4remi » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:31 pm

KnickFan33 wrote:
Here's Kristaps Porzingis on his new approach to training in season this year: "What I've done this year is I'm putting a lot less work on the basketball court. I'm working a lot less I would say than the years before, trying to save all my energy and putting that in the weight room and getting as much rest as possible. That's the key for me, staying strong during the season. If I can maintain my body compact and strong then all the physicality is not going to drain me as much. It's all about me lifting and getting rest."


I'm not sure what to make of this. He should definitely be working on getting stronger, but should still be working on his game. Thoughts?


Right now his skill level is way ahead of his body development (as shown by nagging injuries throughout his career), so I don't have a problem with it. Stick to the weightroom and focus on the skills in the offseason and on breaks.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1552 » by Yankeeknickfan » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:01 am

The worst part about this is even if he's healthy, he won't be the same all season. He'll struggle to even be half as consistent all season. All is lost until next year
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1553 » by magnumt » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:13 am

Yankeeknickfan wrote:The worst part about this is even if he's healthy, he won't be the same all season. He'll struggle to even be half as consistent all season. All is lost until next year


They just said, he's fine. Just a sprain and is even eligible to return for this game.

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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1554 » by Yankeeknickfan » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:18 am

The Knicks are a dumb organization, so they'll make him play through it. Won't give him the week to fully heal
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1555 » by magnumt » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:23 am

Yankeeknickfan wrote:The Knicks are a dumb organization, so they'll make him play through it. Won't give him the week to fully heal


Thru just let Kanter miss a week for back spasms. So...

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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1556 » by Billy Goat » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:24 am

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fatalogic wrote:
NY 567 wrote:I do not think Porzingis is a power forward, he's a center, and we're doing him and the team a disservice not playing him at Center. He's one of the best rim protectors in the league, he shouldn't be wearing himself out chasing stretch 4s all game. He's not going to have the endurance to play PF all year either. At the 5, he'd anchor our defense and he would literally be unguardable. Start Beasley next to him and get rid of all these serviceable but unspectacular backup centers.


I feel like the last few games says otherwise. KP's body is not ready for center duty. Running around chasing stretch 4s is preferable to banging in the post from a longevity and rebounding perspective. At this point in his career he is best served having a high volume re bounder and post defender next to him.


I think the banging at Center would be easier to handle than the energy expended at PF, which is eventually going to hurt him on both sides of the floor, it arguably already has this year less than 20 games in.

Really though, it would probably be for the best for him to split time at both positions, and no, I don't consider the last 4 or 5 minutes of the game at Center a split. Something like 18 at Center next to Beasley or Thomas, and 18 at PF next to Kanter.


He's not a better center than Kanter. KP is a wing.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1557 » by Yankeeknickfan » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:29 am

magnumt wrote:
Yankeeknickfan wrote:The Knicks are a dumb organization, so they'll make him play through it. Won't give him the week to fully heal


Thru just let Kanter miss a week for back spasms. So...

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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1558 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:31 am

Beasley and KOQ are the kings of the turnover
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1559 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:32 am

Knicks let another sh*t team hang around and then lose
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#1560 » by Yankeeknickfan » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:33 am

thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks let another sh*t team hang around and then lose

Wrong thread I think
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