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Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us

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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#361 » by Rotten Apple » Mon Oct 9, 2017 7:10 pm

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Greenie wrote:He does.

Watch our offense.

PG brings the ball up and runs a strong side P&R. If nothing is there the ball swings to the weak side and we free style(iso). There aren’t enough pin downs and curls and backdoor cuts in his offsense.

Jeff isn’t a good coach. Add his lack of offensive creativity to the fact he has no clue how to put a defensive scheme together and this is what you get.

This year is even worse. He doesn’t have Rose slashing and driving or Melo bailing his dumb ass offense out in iso.

No one to blame now. **** just got real.


You've probably seen my posts. It's the dullest offense ever. Here comes the half ass pick for the point guard.....and that's it. Oh, sometimes they take 10 seconds for someone to establish post position, he gets the ball, gets doubled and forces a shot or swings to someone who is covered too.

This sh*t makes JVG look like Don Nelson.



Yep.
His offense is garbage.

I refuse to blame a single player for this ****. KP, just like Melo isn’t calling this garbage offense.


Front office had their press conference and said all the buzzwords to get fans going crazy(ball movement, youth, defense)

And look at us...pathetic so far.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#362 » by NYKnicks6 » Mon Oct 9, 2017 7:13 pm

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MrOrange wrote:His true position is probably SF. He is just slightly oversized for that :) It is actually quite easy to use him as PF on offence and as C on def. Just look how Latvia did it at Eurobasket.

This is exactly what I envision for KP. However we need a legit pf/c next to him who can score in the paint at will while being able to lock down the stretch 4 on D.


when just about everyone was clammoring for him to work out with Dirk, I was like the only one here saying he should be working with Durant because he's more SF than PF or C. Peeps responding acted like I was crazy....some of you are here in this thread.

Hoenestly, he should work out with both. He should also work out with Hakeem to improve his foot work, Kobe to improve his mental focus. He is still young and has a lot of room to improve in many areas as do the rest the young players in the league.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#363 » by NYKAL » Mon Oct 9, 2017 8:00 pm

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Wolfgang630 wrote:It's really hard to build chemistry when you're trying to start from scratch and the young guys keep getting injured like KP, Frank and Baker.

They need to all be healthy to get a little cohesion between them. All those old ass guys need to either be cut (**** u sessions and jack) or coming off of the bench.


What's the Nets reason? There are only a couple of returning guys. I'd say about the same number.

This is not a “from scratch” team either. Removing Melo simply made us unwatchable. It didn’t clear the deck because he’s only 1 player.

LFT
Lee
KOQ
Noah
Timmy
Sessions


These are not “from scratch” players. Stop it.



going to sit back and just laugh as all the things they blamed on Melo will continue and possibly get worse. The blamed Melo for slowing down the offense, well, we will not have Iso Kristaps. The sad thing is in 2 preseason games you can actually hear our guys call out ISO, on multiple occasions just before someone iso'ed. Bad enough it still happens but, no reason to be announce it lmao.

They are giving the keys to the team to Kristaps and told him to be the leader. This from a guy to timid to demand the ball......I think he would be an unbelievable Robin, I just don't see Batman there at all.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#364 » by god shammgod » Mon Oct 9, 2017 8:20 pm

Knicks analysts Alan Hahn and Wally Szczerbiak were caught on a hot mic lambasting Porzingis’ abysmal plus-minus during a commercial break.

“The other thing you could do is just kill Porzingis for being minus-20 in 16 minutes,” Hahn said to Szczerbiak in a video captured on Twitter. “Dude, like come on, man. You’re a star. This is what you’re doing? You’re just out there? (He’s got) a lot to learn.”

“Minus-20 — for him, he should never let his team...,” Szczerbiak responded before the audio returned to the commercial.


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-announcers-caught-ripping-kristaps-porzingis-hot-mic-article-1.3551776
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#365 » by GONYK » Mon Oct 9, 2017 8:30 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Knicks analysts Alan Hahn and Wally Szczerbiak were caught on a hot mic lambasting Porzingis’ abysmal plus-minus during a commercial break.

“The other thing you could do is just kill Porzingis for being minus-20 in 16 minutes,” Hahn said to Szczerbiak in a video captured on Twitter. “Dude, like come on, man. You’re a star. This is what you’re doing? You’re just out there? (He’s got) a lot to learn.”

“Minus-20 — for him, he should never let his team...,” Szczerbiak responded before the audio returned to the commercial.


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-announcers-caught-ripping-kristaps-porzingis-hot-mic-article-1.3551776


With the full disclaimer that this is preseason...

They're not wrong. Especially with the way KP runs his mouth. He can't float through games.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#366 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Oct 9, 2017 8:32 pm

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Knicks analysts Alan Hahn and Wally Szczerbiak were caught on a hot mic lambasting Porzingis’ abysmal plus-minus during a commercial break.

“The other thing you could do is just kill Porzingis for being minus-20 in 16 minutes,” Hahn said to Szczerbiak in a video captured on Twitter. “Dude, like come on, man. You’re a star. This is what you’re doing? You’re just out there? (He’s got) a lot to learn.”

“Minus-20 — for him, he should never let his team...,” Szczerbiak responded before the audio returned to the commercial.


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-announcers-caught-ripping-kristaps-porzingis-hot-mic-article-1.3551776


Janis about to launch into a social media campaign and covert actions to oust Hahn and Szczerbiak as announcers because they damaged KP's brand.

What's John Salley doing? There's a local guy ex NBA player for color commentary.

Conspiracy theory: KP's not really visiting a doctor. Janis leaked that so KP's abysmal performance can be chalked up to "injury" :D
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#367 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Oct 9, 2017 8:37 pm

GONYK wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Knicks analysts Alan Hahn and Wally Szczerbiak were caught on a hot mic lambasting Porzingis’ abysmal plus-minus during a commercial break.

“The other thing you could do is just kill Porzingis for being minus-20 in 16 minutes,” Hahn said to Szczerbiak in a video captured on Twitter. “Dude, like come on, man. You’re a star. This is what you’re doing? You’re just out there? (He’s got) a lot to learn.”

“Minus-20 — for him, he should never let his team...,” Szczerbiak responded before the audio returned to the commercial.


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-announcers-caught-ripping-kristaps-porzingis-hot-mic-article-1.3551776


With the full disclaimer that this is preseason...

They're not wrong. Especially with the way KP runs his mouth. He can't float through games.


KP - "Changes are needed because good franchises aren't run this way. Maybe I'll leave if they aren't taken care of"
Fans "Maybe franchise players are better than this. Maybe leaving won't be so bad after all".


KP "I talked to a lot of other players around the league about how things are and they aren't right on the Knicks"
Kevin Durant: "First thing you have to do is build your brand and the best way to do that is by acting like a d*ck. Take it from me."
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#368 » by April madness » Mon Oct 9, 2017 8:43 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Knicks analysts Alan Hahn and Wally Szczerbiak were caught on a hot mic lambasting Porzingis’ abysmal plus-minus during a commercial break.

“The other thing you could do is just kill Porzingis for being minus-20 in 16 minutes,” Hahn said to Szczerbiak in a video captured on Twitter. “Dude, like come on, man. You’re a star. This is what you’re doing? You’re just out there? (He’s got) a lot to learn.”

“Minus-20 — for him, he should never let his team...,” Szczerbiak responded before the audio returned to the commercial.


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-announcers-caught-ripping-kristaps-porzingis-hot-mic-article-1.3551776


Janis about to launch into a social media campaign and covert actions to oust Hahn and Szczerbiak as announcers because they damaged KP's brand.

What's John Salley doing? There's a local guy ex NBA player for color commentary.

Conspiracy theory: KP's not really visiting a doctor. Janis leaked that so KP's abysmal performance can be chalked up to "injury" :D


Nah, KP was just making everyone look better..... than him :lol:
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#369 » by EnWhyKay » Mon Oct 9, 2017 8:53 pm

Maybe Phil wasn't wrong to try to trade KP.. This dude is already hurt.. And can never make it through a season. This team is gonna bottom out this year again.. Same like when we got KP in the first place. Where is the reward for all this losing? SMH.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#370 » by April madness » Mon Oct 9, 2017 9:02 pm

EnWhyKay wrote:Maybe Phil wasn't wrong to try to trade KP.. This dude is already hurt.. And can never make it through a season. This team is gonna bottom out this year again.. Same like when we got KP in the first place. Where is the reward for all this losing? SMH.

Nowhere. The reward for losing is more losing. Especially if the team is built with bad decisions from management, ill-fitting players and coaches who can't teach and develop players.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#371 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Oct 9, 2017 9:03 pm

EnWhyKay wrote:Maybe Phil wasn't wrong to try to trade KP.. This dude is already hurt.. And can never make it through a season. This team is gonna bottom out this year again.. Same like when we got KP in the first place. Where is the reward for all this losing? SMH.


I'd be ok with KP missing 20 games this year, if he's healthy the next few seasons.

Spoiler:
KP's going to miss 20 games no matter what I say
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#372 » by GONYK » Mon Oct 9, 2017 9:27 pm

EnWhyKay wrote:Maybe Phil wasn't wrong to try to trade KP.. This dude is already hurt.. And can never make it through a season. This team is gonna bottom out this year again.. Same like when we got KP in the first place. Where is the reward for all this losing? SMH.


So you're unfamiliar with the NBA draft lottery process?
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#373 » by IllmaticHandler » Mon Oct 9, 2017 9:46 pm

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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#374 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Mon Oct 9, 2017 10:01 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
EnWhyKay wrote:Maybe Phil wasn't wrong to try to trade KP.. This dude is already hurt.. And can never make it through a season. This team is gonna bottom out this year again.. Same like when we got KP in the first place. Where is the reward for all this losing? SMH.


I'd be ok with KP missing 20 games this year, if he's healthy the next few seasons.

Spoiler:
KP's going to miss 20 games no matter what I say


Need to strengthen the tank. :lol:
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#375 » by Pharmcat » Mon Oct 9, 2017 10:02 pm

see if BOS will give up tatum for him before its too late and he also gets negative value on trade market like melo did thanks to the FO
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#376 » by Sark » Mon Oct 9, 2017 10:09 pm

So Embiid just signed for $150m.

Still think KP is signing a QO?
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#377 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Oct 9, 2017 10:32 pm

Pharmcat wrote:see if BOS will give up tatum for him before its too late and he also gets negative value on trade market like melo did thanks to the FO

FOH. Also, comparing apples to oranges there...reaching juuuuuuust a bit. :-?
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#378 » by KnicksGod » Mon Oct 9, 2017 10:35 pm

I just think expecting this guy to put up a lot of shots and go on runs regularly is not realistic. But why should he have to?

KP can be really good as a floor if he defends and just hits some shots. Instead he could try to "be an All-Star" and end up getting 19 PPG in a way that is unimpressive and unhelpful. It's a trap if he goes that way.
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Re: Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us 

Post#379 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Oct 9, 2017 10:42 pm

Pharmcat wrote:see if BOS will give up tatum for him before its too late and he also gets negative value on trade market like melo did thanks to the FO


Embiid going to wind up being healthier than KP :D
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