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magnumt wrote:Greenie wrote:GONYK wrote:I think the main takeaway from the preseason is that we will be very bad defensively.
Other than that, between the shuffling lineups and injuries, we can't really draw many concrete conclusions about individual young players, offensive system, or overall team direction.
Jeff shuffled lineups all year last year. I see more of the same this year.
Last year they blamed Phil. Who are they gonna blame this year?
--Mags
magnumt wrote:Greenie wrote:GONYK wrote:I think the main takeaway from the preseason is that we will be very bad defensively.
Other than that, between the shuffling lineups and injuries, we can't really draw many concrete conclusions about individual young players, offensive system, or overall team direction.
Jeff shuffled lineups all year last year. I see more of the same this year.
Last year they blamed Phil. Who are they gonna blame this year?
--Mags
Greenie wrote:GONYK wrote:I think the main takeaway from the preseason is that we will be very bad defensively.
Other than that, between the shuffling lineups and injuries, we can't really draw many concrete conclusions about individual young players, offensive system, or overall team direction.
Jeff shuffled lineups all year last year. I see more of the same this year.
thebuzzardman wrote:There is no reason to shuffle line ups other than to pull guys based on lack of effort.
Pick a way to play, pick the players that most accomplish that (uptempo and defensive effort?) and set a rotation. Have a quick hook for low effort, especially defense.
Pretty simple.
Kampuchea wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:There is no reason to shuffle line ups other than to pull guys based on lack of effort.
Pick a way to play, pick the players that most accomplish that (uptempo and defensive effort?) and set a rotation. Have a quick hook for low effort, especially defense.
Pretty simple.
Please no. We'll be playing Lee, Thomas and Noah all game. Heavy minutes for the kids, find out if they have anything.
thebuzzardman wrote:dakomish23 wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
This encapsulates my rants in a nutshell. But of course, I'll expand a little:
Preseason and ultimately doesn't mean sh*t.
You can't glean certain things from watching the games.
I mean, Dotson, who knows? Preseason.
Seems like Baker ************************************************************************preseason? (preseason commentary redacted)
The team is playing some offense this preseason
The team is playing some defense this preseason.
Yep. People are hiding behind the term "rebuilding" to ignore the abysmal output and terrible roster construction.
Listen, I apologize for drawing conclusions from these games. I've edited my comments.
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
vallen wrote:rebuilding is moving foward with the intention (glimmers of hope) your not going to suck one day. Im not sure were close to anything like that.
running in place, making the same mistakes, revolving staffs, overrating players, is just sucking. we are a poorly run franchise, and thats most likely not going to change anytime soon. if it makes people feel better to say " we are rebuilding" then why not, but the reality is were going to be rebuilding a lot more like the Pistons and Magic of the last 20 years then we are the Celtics, Spurs, or even the Lakers. we have no experience rebuilding, we have no experience winning, we have no idea how to rebuild. Its more then just losing games (something we are good at) and drafting people. you need substance. we never had it, and never will till Dolans gone.
DaGawd wrote:Welcome to the rebuilding process folks. It's never pretty. This season will tell me a lot about the resolve of NY fans in a rebuilding situation.. don't disappoint me..
TruthBeTold wrote:TRUST and EMBRACE the PROCESS.
KNICKS GOAL: A Top 3 draft pick with "SUPERSTAR POTENTIAL" to develop.
I've said it before and I will say it again. SUPERSTARS WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. YOU SAW IT LAST SEASON AND YOU WILL SEE IT AGAIN THIS SEASON. IF ONLY THE KNICKS WOULD LISTEN TO ME JUST ONCE.
BBALLER4FR wrote:vallen wrote:rebuilding is moving foward with the intention (glimmers of hope) your not going to suck one day. Im not sure were close to anything like that.
running in place, making the same mistakes, revolving staffs, overrating players, is just sucking. we are a poorly run franchise, and thats most likely not going to change anytime soon. if it makes people feel better to say " we are rebuilding" then why not, but the reality is were going to be rebuilding a lot more like the Pistons and Magic of the last 20 years then we are the Celtics, Spurs, or even the Lakers. we have no experience rebuilding, we have no experience winning, we have no idea how to rebuild. Its more then just losing games (something we are good at) and drafting people. you need substance. we never had it, and never will till Dolans gone.
RIP mags
thebuzzardman wrote:There is no reason to shuffle line ups other than to pull guys based on lack of effort.
Pick a way to play, pick the players that most accomplish that (uptempo and defensive effort?) and set a rotation. Have a quick hook for low effort, especially defense.
Pretty simple.
AllanHoustonFan wrote:DaGawd wrote:Welcome to the rebuilding process folks. It's never pretty. This season will tell me a lot about the resolve of NY fans in a rebuilding situation.. don't disappoint me..
This board could use a good "purge" of users.
AllanHoustonFan wrote:TruthBeTold wrote:TRUST and EMBRACE the PROCESS.
KNICKS GOAL: A Top 3 draft pick with "SUPERSTAR POTENTIAL" to develop.
I've said it before and I will say it again. SUPERSTARS WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. YOU SAW IT LAST SEASON AND YOU WILL SEE IT AGAIN THIS SEASON. IF ONLY THE KNICKS WOULD LISTEN TO ME JUST ONCE.
The Knicks try all the time and fail.
Forget saying bad coaching and weak talent, half of the roster won't even be able to play more than 3/4 of the season.
