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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#181 » by Are We Ther Yet » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:31 pm

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seren wrote:It is good in the sense that he helps us tank. But as value, it is worse than Noah. It is worse because of the years left. It is worse because his salary will be larger than Noah if traded due to trade kicker. It is worse because you can't just sit him like you do to Noah. You can't waive and stretch him with all the money left. You have to play him and live with the results. Results are disgusting.


No. He is 25 yrs old!!! LMAO! He missed 2 months after already earning the money he was given to that point. He's getting 16.5 mil this year. He looked pretty good for a decent stretch. The whole team did. He comes back to a dumpster fire after 2 months and struggled and suddenly it's all over. He's never going to play well again in the next 3 plus years? He's done?

Noah couldn't stay healthy or play worth a damn. Had 2 surgeries already? Took drugs and got suspended and is making 18mil for 2 more years. Possibly bought out or stretched. Impossible to trade without hurting the team. Is broken and will never earn the money.

This is silly.


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17.325
18.15
18.975

Essentially 18 mil per year


Thanks....I guess. He made 16.5 mil. That's what I'm holding him to THIS YEAR. Not 21 mil if we have to trade him. Or anything else involved with how ridiculous it is to suggest his deal is worse than Noah.
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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#182 » by NYKAL » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:41 pm

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you Kinda the reverse of this....


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not like he played well over the span of months. It was only a few weeks and I FOR ONE remember being here and willingly eating Crow so, your wrong about guy not giving him is props when he was balling out. The problem is that it was a pretty small sample size. He started out the season PURE ASS...pulled it together, got injured and has been pure ass since.


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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#183 » by OpiumDose » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:58 pm

40.2% FG% currently ranks him 109th out of 118 players (only players with FGA per game > 10 ranked)
30.4% 3P% currently ranks him 57th out of 59 players (only players with 3PA per game > 5 ranked)
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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#184 » by seren » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:10 pm

Again I am fine with Hardaway as the tank commander. He is the ideal guy to lead us to the promised Land this year and next. But let's not act like Hardaway is a proper NBA player. On the other hand, he would be a star in Chinese league.
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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#185 » by CharlesOakley » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:20 pm

Hardaway would be good as the third option on offense. He's being asked to do too much. Of all the players on the Knicks to worry about, this guy is down the list.
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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#186 » by seren » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:35 pm

CharlesOakley wrote:Hardaway would be good as the third option on offense. He's being asked to do too much. Of all the players on the Knicks to worry about, this guy is down the list.


Third option? Here are some third options who won the ring or made to the finals recently:

Klay Thompson, Kevin Love, Chris Bosh, Kawhi Leonard.

In what universe is Hardaway in the same league with these guys?

Tim Hardaway is a third option of a lottery team. And I am being generous.
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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#187 » by 8516knicks » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:36 pm

So basically it cost us THJ and Noah's albatross contracts plus KPs unfortunate (but in another sense fortunate?) injury to get us to supertank level. Where we have a change to get two great (we hope)? players in the 18/19 drafts and then add back KP healed. Then if one of Mudiay/Frank (both 8ish draft picks in KPs draft) comes through, perhaps we attract a top Free Agent to complete the picture? So in retrospect, was the Front Office devilishly brilliant? Or is this just dumb luck?
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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#188 » by dakomish23 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:42 pm

8516knicks wrote:So basically it cost us THJ and Noah's albatross contracts plus KPs unfortunate (but in another sense fortunate?) injury to get us to supertank level. Where we have a change to get two great (we hope)? players in the 18/19 drafts and then add back KP healed. Then if one of Mudiay/Frank (both 8ish draft picks in KPs draft) comes through, perhaps we attract a top Free Agent to complete the picture? So in retrospect, was the Front Office devilishly brilliant? Or is this just dumb luck?


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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#189 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:47 pm

seren wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:Hardaway would be good as the third option on offense. He's being asked to do too much. Of all the players on the Knicks to worry about, this guy is down the list.


Third option? Here are some third options who won the ring or made to the finals recently:

Klay Thompson, Kevin Love, Chris Bosh, Kawhi Leonard.

In what universe is Hardaway in the same league with these guys?

Tim Hardaway is a third option of a lottery team. And I am being generous.


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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#190 » by digitaldropoff » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:18 pm

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8516knicks wrote:So basically it cost us THJ and Noah's albatross contracts plus KPs unfortunate (but in another sense fortunate?) injury to get us to supertank level. Where we have a change to get two great (we hope)? players in the 18/19 drafts and then add back KP healed. Then if one of Mudiay/Frank (both 8ish draft picks in KPs draft) comes through, perhaps we attract a top Free Agent to complete the picture? So in retrospect, was the Front Office devilishly brilliant? Or is this just dumb luck?


What


Poorly worded, yes.....but the answer is "dumb luck".
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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#191 » by dakomish23 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:22 pm

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8516knicks wrote:So basically it cost us THJ and Noah's albatross contracts plus KPs unfortunate (but in another sense fortunate?) injury to get us to supertank level. Where we have a change to get two great (we hope)? players in the 18/19 drafts and then add back KP healed. Then if one of Mudiay/Frank (both 8ish draft picks in KPs draft) comes through, perhaps we attract a top Free Agent to complete the picture? So in retrospect, was the Front Office devilishly brilliant? Or is this just dumb luck?


What


Poorly worded, yes.....but the answer is "dumb luck".


Not sure how KP getting injured would have someone ask “was the FO devilishly brilliant”

I’d take the result happening in a heartbeat though since we are where we are
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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#192 » by Are We Ther Yet » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:22 pm

8516knicks wrote:So basically it cost us THJ and Noah's albatross contracts plus KPs unfortunate (but in another sense fortunate?) injury to get us to supertank level. Where we have a change to get two great (we hope)? players in the 18/19 drafts and then add back KP healed. Then if one of Mudiay/Frank (both 8ish draft picks in KPs draft) comes through, perhaps we attract a top Free Agent to complete the picture? So in retrospect, was the Front Office devilishly brilliant? Or is this just dumb luck?


Dumb luck
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Post#193 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:18 pm

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BeagleBoss wrote:He's John Starks without the defense.


Exactly


Or JR Smith without the crazy.


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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#194 » by spree8 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:18 am

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BeagleBoss wrote:He's John Starks without the defense.


Exactly


Or JR Smith without the crazy.



Yea that’s more like it.

It’s offensive to see his name in the same sentence as Starks (think this is the 2nd time I’ve seen it here). He wasn’t just a streaky shooter/good defender. Guy was the heart of the team and a tough/scrappy sob who would step to anybody (Jordan/Reggie, etc). Dude was ready for war every night. Tim Hardaway Jr tho? Cmon.
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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

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Post#196 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:33 am

THJr - 18 million in cap space, all for a handful of wins that screws the Knicks out of the #1 pick.

Basically, teams like Chicago and Dallas were smart enough to embrace the tank. From the moment THJr was signed, you knew the Knicks weren't and now are paying the price. They can't close the 5 game game to worst 1-3 record, which they could have done with Holiday.

Knicks management. Forever lacking foresight.
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Post#197 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:45 am

We all must have aged in dog years this season, because Timmy playing well feels like a distant memory.
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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#198 » by BBALLER4FR » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:59 am

thebuzzardman wrote:THJr - 18 million in cap space, all for a handful of wins that screws the Knicks out of the #1 pick.

Basically, teams like Chicago and Dallas were smart enough to embrace the tank. From the moment THJr was signed, you knew the Knicks weren't and now are paying the price. They can't close the 5 game game to worst 1-3 record, which they could have done with Holiday.

Knicks management. Forever lacking foresight.


Less of this season is on Hardaway and more on Hornaceck. I haven't understood one rotation this year and I the players don't either (save Jack/Lance). Jeff coaches for failure barring perfection. Perfect example was yesterday when Jeff allowed McConnell to get that triple double. Jeff knew it was coming. The crowd was cheering for it. I knew it was coming. The Sixers telegraphed it clearing out for McConnel on offense and leaving the entire right side for McConnel to get a rebound... And we watched Hornaceck facilitated it. A real coach would have put the team in position to NEVER allow that to happen. But similar to this entire season, Jeff coach for the most ridiculous of misfortunes to become disastrous reality.
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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#199 » by dakomish23 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:04 am

thebuzzardman wrote:THJr - 18 million in cap space, all for a handful of wins that screws the Knicks out of the #1 pick.

Basically, teams like Chicago and Dallas were smart enough to embrace the tank. From the moment THJr was signed, you knew the Knicks weren't and now are paying the price. They can't close the 5 game game to worst 1-3 record, which they could have done with Holiday.

Knicks management. Forever lacking foresight.


He’s going to get hot and win us games pushing us further down in the lottery.
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Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread 

Post#200 » by 8516knicks » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:45 am

THJ's 4-16s will lead the tank!

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