Re: Official Tim Hardaway JR Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:22 pm
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NYKAL wrote:itsme23 wrote:He is. Should have traded him for Lowry when given the opportunity.
didn't they want a draft pick too? That would be too much
ctorres wrote:A closer look at Tim Hardaway Jr's performances this season...
October 19th through October 27th (4 games)
32.0 mpg, 9.8 ppg, 26.5% fg's, 22.2% 3pt fg's, 70.0% ft's, 1.8 rpg, 1.5 apg, 0.0 spg
October 29th through November 29th (17 games)
34.6 mpg, 19.7 ppg, 44.8% fg's, 33.6% 3pt fg's, 81.5% ft's, 4.8 rpg, 3.8 apg, 1.4 spg
January 12th through January 30th (8 games)
29.3 mpg, 18.3 ppg, 47.7% fg's, 42.1% 3pt fg's, 76.9% ft's, 4.1 rpg, 2.1 apg, 1.3 spg
January 31st through February 12th (7 games)
30.7 mpg, 8.9 ppg, 25.8% fg's, 11.4% 3pt fg's, 64.3% ft's, 3.6 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.0 spg
February 14th through March 6th (7 games)
34.8 mpg, 21.6 ppg, 49.2% fg's, 36.2% 3pt fg's, 100.0% ft's, 3.1 rpg, 2.4 apg, 1.0 spg
What exactly happened to THjr during the first four games of the season and the first half of February?!
Otherwise, he has played "ok" for 32 of 43 games.
K P 6 wrote:I saw him play excellent D when he was mad yesterday. Why dont guys take pride on D @ all times? Oh wait, they play for Jeff.
Jeff Van Gully wrote:K P 6 wrote:I saw him play excellent D when he was mad yesterday. Why dont guys take pride on D @ all times? Oh wait, they play for Jeff.
you blame jeff for something you just pointed out to be a personal flaw?
Sark wrote:ctorres wrote:A closer look at Tim Hardaway Jr's performances this season...
October 19th through October 27th (4 games)
32.0 mpg, 9.8 ppg, 26.5% fg's, 22.2% 3pt fg's, 70.0% ft's, 1.8 rpg, 1.5 apg, 0.0 spg
October 29th through November 29th (17 games)
34.6 mpg, 19.7 ppg, 44.8% fg's, 33.6% 3pt fg's, 81.5% ft's, 4.8 rpg, 3.8 apg, 1.4 spg
January 12th through January 30th (8 games)
29.3 mpg, 18.3 ppg, 47.7% fg's, 42.1% 3pt fg's, 76.9% ft's, 4.1 rpg, 2.1 apg, 1.3 spg
January 31st through February 12th (7 games)
30.7 mpg, 8.9 ppg, 25.8% fg's, 11.4% 3pt fg's, 64.3% ft's, 3.6 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.0 spg
February 14th through March 6th (7 games)
34.8 mpg, 21.6 ppg, 49.2% fg's, 36.2% 3pt fg's, 100.0% ft's, 3.1 rpg, 2.4 apg, 1.0 spg
What exactly happened to THjr during the first four games of the season and the first half of February?!
Otherwise, he has played "ok" for 32 of 43 games.
That's not really a great representation of his season though. He'll have a good stat line every once in a while which drastically boost his numbers, and make him look better overall. He plays terrible defense, and when he's not scoring he's pretty much useless.
Look at his actual game log.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hardati02/gamelog/2018
He's averaging 15 shots per game, yet has 18 games where he can't even get 6 field goals. We just have to hope that he can improve over the next 3 years to somewhat live up to that contract.
Jeff Van Gully wrote:Sark wrote:ctorres wrote:A closer look at Tim Hardaway Jr's performances this season...
October 19th through October 27th (4 games)
32.0 mpg, 9.8 ppg, 26.5% fg's, 22.2% 3pt fg's, 70.0% ft's, 1.8 rpg, 1.5 apg, 0.0 spg
October 29th through November 29th (17 games)
34.6 mpg, 19.7 ppg, 44.8% fg's, 33.6% 3pt fg's, 81.5% ft's, 4.8 rpg, 3.8 apg, 1.4 spg
January 12th through January 30th (8 games)
29.3 mpg, 18.3 ppg, 47.7% fg's, 42.1% 3pt fg's, 76.9% ft's, 4.1 rpg, 2.1 apg, 1.3 spg
January 31st through February 12th (7 games)
30.7 mpg, 8.9 ppg, 25.8% fg's, 11.4% 3pt fg's, 64.3% ft's, 3.6 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.0 spg
February 14th through March 6th (7 games)
34.8 mpg, 21.6 ppg, 49.2% fg's, 36.2% 3pt fg's, 100.0% ft's, 3.1 rpg, 2.4 apg, 1.0 spg
What exactly happened to THjr during the first four games of the season and the first half of February?!
Otherwise, he has played "ok" for 32 of 43 games.
That's not really a great representation of his season though. He'll have a good stat line every once in a while which drastically boost his numbers, and make him look better overall. He plays terrible defense, and when he's not scoring he's pretty much useless.
Look at his actual game log.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hardati02/gamelog/2018
He's averaging 15 shots per game, yet has 18 games where he can't even get 6 field goals. We just have to hope that he can improve over the next 3 years to somewhat live up to that contract.
only 2 of those games fit the criteria of him having less than 6 FG and more than 15 FGA.
and that's a strange set of parameters for your query, holmes.
K P 6 wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:K P 6 wrote:I saw him play excellent D when he was mad yesterday. Why dont guys take pride on D @ all times? Oh wait, they play for Jeff.
you blame jeff for something you just pointed out to be a personal flaw?
Nope I’m saying Jeff Don’t hold guys accountable. Let’s be serious. Jack, Beasley, and Kanter was starting starting together at one point. Agreed guys should take it upon themselves but it starts at the top. Not everyone on Boston is good at D but Stevens demands is and has philosophies. Jeff is all talk.
thebuzzardman wrote:K P 6 wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:
you blame jeff for something you just pointed out to be a personal flaw?
Nope I’m saying Jeff Don’t hold guys accountable. Let’s be serious. Jack, Beasley, and Kanter was starting starting together at one point. Agreed guys should take it upon themselves but it starts at the top. Not everyone on Boston is good at D but Stevens demands is and has philosophies. Jeff is all talk.
Bingo.
THJR and etc might not be good defenders, but Jeff gets the absolute least out of them defensively. He's like the "Anti Bud" for THJr.
ctorres wrote:A closer look at Tim Hardaway Jr's performances this season...
October 19th through October 27th (4 games)
32.0 mpg, 9.8 ppg, 26.5% fg's, 22.2% 3pt fg's, 70.0% ft's, 1.8 rpg, 1.5 apg, 0.0 spg
October 29th through November 29th (17 games)
34.6 mpg, 19.7 ppg, 44.8% fg's, 33.6% 3pt fg's, 81.5% ft's, 4.8 rpg, 3.8 apg, 1.4 spg
January 12th through January 30th (8 games)
29.3 mpg, 18.3 ppg, 47.7% fg's, 42.1% 3pt fg's, 76.9% ft's, 4.1 rpg, 2.1 apg, 1.3 spg
January 31st through February 12th (7 games)
30.7 mpg, 8.9 ppg, 25.8% fg's, 11.4% 3pt fg's, 64.3% ft's, 3.6 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.0 spg
February 14th through March 6th (7 games)
34.8 mpg, 21.6 ppg, 49.2% fg's, 36.2% 3pt fg's, 100.0% ft's, 3.1 rpg, 2.4 apg, 1.0 spg
What exactly happened to THjr during the first four games of the season and the first half of February?!
Otherwise, he has played "ok" for 32 of 43 games.
Knicksfan20 wrote:ctorres wrote:A closer look at Tim Hardaway Jr's performances this season...
October 19th through October 27th (4 games)
32.0 mpg, 9.8 ppg, 26.5% fg's, 22.2% 3pt fg's, 70.0% ft's, 1.8 rpg, 1.5 apg, 0.0 spg
October 29th through November 29th (17 games)
34.6 mpg, 19.7 ppg, 44.8% fg's, 33.6% 3pt fg's, 81.5% ft's, 4.8 rpg, 3.8 apg, 1.4 spg
January 12th through January 30th (8 games)
29.3 mpg, 18.3 ppg, 47.7% fg's, 42.1% 3pt fg's, 76.9% ft's, 4.1 rpg, 2.1 apg, 1.3 spg
January 31st through February 12th (7 games)
30.7 mpg, 8.9 ppg, 25.8% fg's, 11.4% 3pt fg's, 64.3% ft's, 3.6 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.0 spg
February 14th through March 6th (7 games)
34.8 mpg, 21.6 ppg, 49.2% fg's, 36.2% 3pt fg's, 100.0% ft's, 3.1 rpg, 2.4 apg, 1.0 spg
What exactly happened to THjr during the first four games of the season and the first half of February?!
Otherwise, he has played "ok" for 32 of 43 games.
Hardaway had a very Bi Polar season. Some games he looked like a serviceable player, but then he would go through terrible stretches where he looked like he belonged in the d league.
I don’t think he will ever play up to his contract, but that isn’t completely his fault.
I think Hardaway needs to focus on being an all around player. He has shown the ability to do everything. He can pass, He can rebound , He can defend , He can shoot , He can drive , He can finish a the rim , He can beat his man 1 on 1 (to an extent ), He does have a high IQ, So then why the hell is he so inconsistent at doing it all? Why can’t he defend every game? Why does he have games where he has 6-8 assists and then games where he has 0-1 assists? Why is he so damn streaky?
It’s frustrating to watch a lot of the times. I think Hardaway is pressing too hard and just needs to focus on doing everything. He can be a 16/5/5 type of player if he focused on taking higher % shots and looking to distribute a little more.
Hardaway impressed me as a passer and with his court vision last season. He made good passes in the pick ,mand roll , half court, and in transition. Despite Hardaway playing so inconsistently bad at times, I don’t remember him turning the ball over at an alarming rate. He should look to make more plays for him and his teamates and stop chucking.
I don’t think Hardaway has the length to be effective as a SF. I think he’s a pure 2 and we need to organize our roster so that he is playing SG. Frank needs to be the PG and Mikal our SF and Timmy needs to step his game up or he’ll be on the bench squad with his buddy Trey.
KP/Oquinn
2019 FRP/Beasley
Bridges /Beasley
Frank/Hardaway Jr/Dotson
Kyrie /Burke /Frank
Is what I’m looking forward to. I think Hardaway JR will serve fine as a starter next year, but when we are ready to compete, he’s probably best served coming off the bench.