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Re: is it time to put respect on Kanters name? 

Post#41 » by tleikheen » Sun Nov 5, 2017 7:25 pm

Nobody likes bigs who can't shoot 3s these days. That's also a factor.


This is baloney ....you better have a Center if you want to compete
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Re: is it time to put respect on Kanters name? 

Post#42 » by Knicks Byke » Sun Nov 5, 2017 8:14 pm

all Billy has to do is outplay him in practice. mfer aint entitled to **** in this league.
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Re: is it time to put respect on Kanters name? 

Post#43 » by Knick4Real » Sun Nov 5, 2017 9:29 pm

I'm surprised how many here don't understand that a successful team is built up of parts that FIT. They may not always be perfect, but they FIT and help make the train move. So many posters are looking for every little thing Kanter does wrong to discount all the things he does right. However, that's not what makes a team a team.

For example, Melo is a talented player who put up big numbers -- but he no longer FIT. Kanter does FIT.

He compliments KP. His hunger to be that junkyard dog and do all the little things is invaluable. His energy is infectious. He's a good locker room guy. He actually WANTS to be here. Plus, he's just damned likable.

You could replace Kanter with a guy who does everything by the book, and he could still not FIT. Kanter just works. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Let him be!
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Re: is it time to put respect on Kanters name? 

Post#44 » by KnixinSix » Sun Nov 5, 2017 10:42 pm

Knick4Real wrote:I'm surprised how many here don't understand that a successful team is built up of parts that FIT. They may not always be perfect, but they FIT and help make the train move. So many posters are looking for every little thing Kanter does wrong to discount all the things he does right. However, that's not what makes a team a team.

For example, Melo is a talented player who put up big numbers -- but he no longer FIT. Kanter does FIT.

He compliments KP. His hunger to be that junkyard dog and do all the little things is invaluable. His energy is infectious. He's a good locker room guy. He actually WANTS to be here. Plus, he's just damned likable.

You could replace Kanter with a guy who does everything by the book, and he could still not FIT. Kanter just works. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Let him be!


Well said. Kanter has been excellent thus far and is actually giving effort on D. So far so good. KP if he keeps this up is a top 5 NBA Superstar and maybe more.

You never know but this team could look attractive to a true big fish star if they continue to build on what they are doing so far.

Stretch Noah (not a cap expert but I believe that would open up some more room) and a couple other good moves and who knows this team with another big FA signing or trade could be legit contender in the East again.
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Re: is it time to put respect on Kanters name? 

Post#45 » by KnickXxxx » Sun Nov 5, 2017 10:51 pm

Knick4Real wrote:I'm surprised how many here don't understand that a successful team is built up of parts that FIT. They may not always be perfect, but they FIT and help make the train move. So many posters are looking for every little thing Kanter does wrong to discount all the things he does right. However, that's not what makes a team a team.

For example, Melo is a talented player who put up big numbers -- but he no longer FIT. Kanter does FIT.

He compliments KP. His hunger to be that junkyard dog and do all the little things is invaluable. His energy is infectious. He's a good locker room guy. He actually WANTS to be here. Plus, he's just damned likable.

You could replace Kanter with a guy who does everything by the book, and he could still not FIT. Kanter just works. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Let him be!


Bingo.

These guys have found chemistry with each other and that is priceless. Sometimes you don’t know where you are going to find it and something just works. If they keep playing like this I wouldn’t mind keeping Oquinn and Kanter if we can get them at the price of 1 max center.

The big addition the Knicks need to look to bring in is some sort of big time pg.
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Re: is it time to put respect on Kanters name? 

Post#46 » by Knick4Real » Sun Nov 5, 2017 11:46 pm

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Knick4Real wrote:I'm surprised how many here don't understand that a successful team is built up of parts that FIT. They may not always be perfect, but they FIT and help make the train move. So many posters are looking for every little thing Kanter does wrong to discount all the things he does right. However, that's not what makes a team a team.

For example, Melo is a talented player who put up big numbers -- but he no longer FIT. Kanter does FIT.

He compliments KP. His hunger to be that junkyard dog and do all the little things is invaluable. His energy is infectious. He's a good locker room guy. He actually WANTS to be here. Plus, he's just damned likable.

You could replace Kanter with a guy who does everything by the book, and he could still not FIT. Kanter just works. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Let him be!


Bingo.

These guys have found chemistry with each other and that is priceless. Sometimes you don’t know where you are going to find it and something just works. If they keep playing like this I wouldn’t mind keeping Oquinn and Kanter if we can get them at the price of 1 max center.

The big addition the Knicks need to look to bring in is some sort of big time pg.


Thanks for agreeing.

Actually, our biggest need is a legit replacement for Melo at SF. Lee is a 2, as is THJr.
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Re: is it time to put respect on Kanters name? 

Post#47 » by NYKMentality85 » Mon Nov 6, 2017 12:30 am

I personally really like the guy. I mean, no, he's not a defensive enforcer but i always keep in mind he was a key role player down low in the paint for OKC who contended. He's also polished on offense down low. Can rebound. Double double machine. Is he my dream Center? No. But i do feel he can play winning ball down low.
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Re: is it time to put respect on Kanters name? 

Post#48 » by Stannis » Mon Nov 6, 2017 12:54 am

He really cant play "winning ball". That's why OKC limited his PO minutes. He was a liability.

EDIT: Not saying we shouldnt be giving him minutes. We should. But I dont see anything long term. Let him get 15 and 10, then trade him near the deadline.
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Post#49 » by YouthMovement » Mon Nov 6, 2017 1:40 am

Stannis wrote:He really cant play "winning ball". That's why OKC limited his PO minutes. He was a liability.

EDIT: Not saying we shouldnt be giving him minutes. We should. But I dont see anything long term. Let him get 15 and 10, then trade him near the deadline.


this. he's doing what he's always done, nothing new. scoring machine down low. very efficient. gets exposed nightly on defense. there's literally a video of billy donovan saying "can't play kanter".
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Post#50 » by KnicksGadfly » Mon Nov 6, 2017 1:43 am

NYKMentality85 wrote:I personally really like the guy. I mean, no, he's not a defensive enforcer but i always keep in mind he was a key role player down low in the paint for OKC who contended. He's also polished on offense down low. Can rebound. Double double machine. Is he my dream Center? No. But i do feel he can play winning ball down low.


well, during the playoffs, the guy disappeared. and for good reason.

also, I don't get why guys are saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Are we the golden state warriors all of a sudden? A contender? We have lots to fix.
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Re: is it time to put respect on Kanters name? 

Post#51 » by DickGrayson » Mon Nov 6, 2017 2:03 am

Kanter is extremely overrated and is one of the most perfect bigs to have next to KP. We got a good frontcourt just need a SF.
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Re: is it time to put respect on Kanters name? 

Post#52 » by KnickXxxx » Mon Nov 6, 2017 2:42 am

Knick4Real wrote:
KnickXxxx wrote:
Knick4Real wrote:I'm surprised how many here don't understand that a successful team is built up of parts that FIT. They may not always be perfect, but they FIT and help make the train move. So many posters are looking for every little thing Kanter does wrong to discount all the things he does right. However, that's not what makes a team a team.

For example, Melo is a talented player who put up big numbers -- but he no longer FIT. Kanter does FIT.

He compliments KP. His hunger to be that junkyard dog and do all the little things is invaluable. His energy is infectious. He's a good locker room guy. He actually WANTS to be here. Plus, he's just damned likable.

You could replace Kanter with a guy who does everything by the book, and he could still not FIT. Kanter just works. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Let him be!


Bingo.

These guys have found chemistry with each other and that is priceless. Sometimes you don’t know where you are going to find it and something just works. If they keep playing like this I wouldn’t mind keeping Oquinn and Kanter if we can get them at the price of 1 max center.

The big addition the Knicks need to look to bring in is some sort of big time pg.


Thanks for agreeing.

Actually, our biggest need is a legit replacement for Melo at SF. Lee is a 2, as is THJr.


TH jr is the Knicks starting SF and he plays SG also. Frank plays PG and SG. Knicks should go bpa going forward between the 1-3 position but I definitely think the priority is a quality pg. If the bpa in the next draft is a long defensive Sf then that might be the best move.
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Re: is it time to put respect on Kanters name? 

Post#53 » by Woodsanity » Mon Nov 6, 2017 2:55 am

I give Kanter cred for playing semi-serviceable defense imo. Hope he keeps it up.
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Post#54 » by shmeakone » Mon Nov 6, 2017 2:57 am

I don’t see why he’s not our future center. If KP becomes an above average defender I don’t see why this isn’t liable. They play really well together.
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Post#55 » by Jim Dolan » Mon Nov 6, 2017 3:02 am

kanter is well liked everywhere he goes
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Post#56 » by CowboyBebop » Mon Nov 6, 2017 3:05 am

It’s not as if Kanter doesn’t put any effort in on defense. He tries, it’s just not one of his strengths. The rebounding and offensive efficiency is amazing though which more than makes up for his defensive lapses here and there.
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Re: is it time to put respect on Kanters name? 

Post#57 » by KayCSmooth » Mon Nov 6, 2017 3:15 am

Knick4Real wrote:
KnickXxxx wrote:
Knick4Real wrote:I'm surprised how many here don't understand that a successful team is built up of parts that FIT. They may not always be perfect, but they FIT and help make the train move. So many posters are looking for every little thing Kanter does wrong to discount all the things he does right. However, that's not what makes a team a team.

For example, Melo is a talented player who put up big numbers -- but he no longer FIT. Kanter does FIT.

He compliments KP. His hunger to be that junkyard dog and do all the little things is invaluable. His energy is infectious. He's a good locker room guy. He actually WANTS to be here. Plus, he's just damned likable.

You could replace Kanter with a guy who does everything by the book, and he could still not FIT. Kanter just works. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Let him be!


Bingo.

These guys have found chemistry with each other and that is priceless. Sometimes you don’t know where you are going to find it and something just works. If they keep playing like this I wouldn’t mind keeping Oquinn and Kanter if we can get them at the price of 1 max center.

The big addition the Knicks need to look to bring in is some sort of big time pg.


Thanks for agreeing.

Actually, our biggest need is a legit replacement for Melo at SF. Lee is a 2, as is THJr.

Facts on facts on facts. Kanter just fits. He does the stuff KP doesn't have to waste energy on! As far as the small forward position, I'm dreaming of a stud 3&d Swiss army knife SF draft pick!
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Post#58 » by nymets1 » Mon Nov 6, 2017 3:21 am

Kanter had 18 rebounds :o
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Re: is it time to put respect on Kanters name? 

Post#59 » by YouthMovement » Mon Nov 6, 2017 8:10 am

shmeakone wrote:I don’t see why he’s not our future center. If KP becomes an above average defender I don’t see why this isn’t liable. They play really well together.


it's just too early to to decide on that. we're 5-4 and people are acting like we don't need to make changes and upgrades.
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Re: is it time to put respect on Kanters name? 

Post#60 » by falcon107 » Mon Nov 6, 2017 8:42 am

Zingod wrote:Not many centers got paid this summer tbh.

Noah,Mozgod, Mihinmi all got paid in 2016. Gms are smarter now. I think Kanter gets around 13-16m a year if he opts out. Nobody likes bigs who can't shoot 3s these days. That's also a factor.


He can shoot 3s. But he is told, or he choose not to shoot.
He used mid-range shoots very much in OKC.

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