Noah to be inactive for forseeable future. Will sit behind bench as defensive captain

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #21 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:39 pm

This is an awesome look from so many different perspectives.

Post #22 » by **GONYK** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:43 pm

whocares1 wrote:
K P 6 wrote:OMG we are not going by Salary. WOW In other words Willy stfu we are jammed at that position.

Players like Kanter and O'Quinn (Doug as well) are on one year deals and thus need to be evaluated. Contract situations are still influencing minutes.

They are also the most talented players at their positions, so how can you say that's not the motivation?

RiseOfTheEmpire · Post #23 » by **RiseOfTheEmpire** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:45 pm

Noah would thrive in this ball moving offense. He led the Bulls in assists per game after Rose went down and Thib actually ran the offense through him because of his passing.

I like what they are doing...it would send the young guys the wrong message if he just came and started right away...but hopefully, eventually, if he's 100%, he gets in there if we are still winning games at a good clip, even if it's off the bench.

People keep harping about his defense, but imo Kanters biggest weakness is his passing. Sure, he can throw it to an open guy, but he really is a dud when it comes to making plays and passes when they run a set...KOQ has him beat there, and Noah is on another level, so just for that I want to see Noah play with these guys...it's just a big tingle inside, a what if it's amazing....hope to see it soon.

newyorker4ever · Post #24 » by **newyorker4ever** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:37 pm

Knicks thinking about stretching Noah. I hate this idea and having to pay him $7+ mil per for the next 5 years.

https://t.co/QLAOKSrUhW

Oscirus · Post #25 » by **Oscirus** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:22 pm

22.5 million dollars of inactivity on our bench. Money well spent

Zingod · Post #26 » by **Zingod** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:37 pm

He's our Josh Smith. Get him the **** out of this team asap.

Post #27 » by **magnumt** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:43 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:They created a spot and he's still inactive. Interesting

Different list.

When he was suspended by the League he wasn't on the Roster technically.

When he went to the IA list, he was back on the Roster, just couldn't play. It's why we were forced to make a move.

--Mags :beer:

Knick4Real · Post #28 » by **Knick4Real** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:46 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:Knicks thinking about stretching Noah. I hate this idea and having to pay him $7+ mil per for the next 5 years.

https://t.co/QLAOKSrUhW

You can thank this man for that:

Post #29 » by **dakomish23** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:27 am

Knick4Real wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:Knicks thinking about stretching Noah. I hate this idea and having to pay him $7+ mil per for the next 5 years.

https://t.co/QLAOKSrUhW

You can thank this man for that:

Here's one way we can somewhat work around the contract. It was applied to Deng's deal but they're close enough. To make a big enough splash, we'd have to dump Lee and hope Kanter opts out. Then we're cooking.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2743657-to-make-room-for-2-stars-lakers-should-give-luol-deng-an-extension-seriously

As of July 7, Deng is eligible for a three-year extension. Given the need to get him off the books, why would the Lakers add on to his contract?

The answer is the league's stretch provision, which allows for players to be waived with their contracts paid out over twice the length of the remaining deal, plus one season.

With the $36.8 million owed to Deng over the next two, the Lakers can stretch him out to $7.4 million over five years, which would open $9.8 million in additional cap space in July.

That isn't quite enough to get to two max slots, putting the Lakers at about $57.3 million in space.

That's where a Deng extension can help, with the caveat that any additional salary doesn't have to be guaranteed. By adding three years to his deal with no extra money guaranteed, the Lakers would have the ability to stretch Deng's salary over 11 total years, at $3.3 million a season.

HarthorneWingo · Post #30 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:31 am

GONYK wrote:
whocares1 wrote:
K P 6 wrote:OMG we are not going by Salary. WOW In other words Willy stfu we are jammed at that position.

Players like Kanter and O'Quinn (Doug as well) are on one year deals and thus need to be evaluated. Contract situations are still influencing minutes.

They are also the most talented players at their positions, so how can you say that's not the motivation?

And are playing at a high level right now.

HarthorneWingo · Post #31 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:35 am

dakomish23 wrote:
Knick4Real wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:Knicks thinking about stretching Noah. I hate this idea and having to pay him $7+ mil per for the next 5 years.

https://t.co/QLAOKSrUhW

You can thank this man for that:

Here's one way we can somewhat work around the contract. It was applied to Deng's deal but they're close enough. To make a big enough splash, we'd have to dump Lee and hope Kanter opts out. Then we're cooking.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2743657-to-make-room-for-2-stars-lakers-should-give-luol-deng-an-extension-seriously

As of July 7, Deng is eligible for a three-year extension. Given the need to get him off the books, why would the Lakers add on to his contract?

The answer is the league's stretch provision, which allows for players to be waived with their contracts paid out over twice the length of the remaining deal, plus one season.

With the $36.8 million owed to Deng over the next two, the Lakers can stretch him out to $7.4 million over five years, which would open $9.8 million in additional cap space in July.

That isn't quite enough to get to two max slots, putting the Lakers at about $57.3 million in space.

That's where a Deng extension can help, with the caveat that any additional salary doesn't have to be guaranteed. By adding three years to his deal with no extra money guaranteed, the Lakers would have the ability to stretch Deng's salary over 11 total years, at $3.3 million a season.

Don't we have to know who we're targeting if we're going to make these types of roster transactions? Who are we doing all this for?

In any event, we all know that Kanter is going to exercise his option for next season. Is that really in dispute? If it is, I'd love to read that scenario where Enes opts out.

MP4LIFE · Post #32 » by **MP4LIFE** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:47 am

$18 million as a healthy scratch is an utter disgrace.

This is the worst contract we’ve ever given. It rivals Eddy Curry’s and Jerome James.

Marty McFly · Post #33 » by **Marty McFly** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:56 am

newyorker4ever wrote:Knicks thinking about stretching Noah. I hate this idea and having to pay him $7+ mil per for the next 5 years.

https://t.co/QLAOKSrUhW

yeah, they better **** not.

Post #34 » by **GONYK** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:51 pm

Marty McFly wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:Knicks thinking about stretching Noah. I hate this idea and having to pay him $7+ mil per for the next 5 years.

https://t.co/QLAOKSrUhW

yeah, they better **** not.

The article is total bullsh*t, and neither the Knicks nor Berman said that the Knicks are considering stretch waiving Noah.

Post #35 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:00 pm

Stretching Noah is a bad idea. We have a young core. It is better to be more calculating in our build then rush things and make a mistake that we can never get off the books such as the stretched contract. 1 more year and he’s an expiring, and always the slim chance he may just medically retire.

Only exception I would make is if we can sign a legit star that fits. Otherwise....

robillionaire · Post #36 » by **robillionaire** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:10 pm

You're going to think I'm crazy but I think we should just play him some backup minutes and see what happens

thebuzzardman · Post #37 » by **thebuzzardman** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:14 pm

Watch on YouTube

god shammgod · Post #38 » by **god shammgod** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:28 pm

if a big free agent wants to come here, then at that time you stretch him if you need to. until then, let him sit. he's probably gonna play eventually. are the knicks really gonna re-sign the 2 centers that currently play when they have 2 more still under contract ? they're holding something like 45 million dollars in centers now. are they foolish enough to spend even more on that position ? stay tuned.

robillionaire · Post #39 » by **robillionaire** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:30 pm

I was reading this thread before I went to sleep last night and I had a dream that I was at MSG and Noah was on Cleveland and he was helping LeBron embarrass us and was all screaming in our faces and **** and I was like wtf he's on the Knicks and person next to me said no we stretch waived him and have him on the books for 7 years and the Cavs picked him up and he reverted back to prime DPOY form. very traumatizing dream. I know he's done and that won't happen but still

BKlutch · Post #40 » by **BKlutch** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:09 pm

Capn'O wrote:
On Monday, Hornacek named Noah the defensive captain

Something doesn't look quite right...

On Monday, Hornacek named Noah the defensive captain coach

This seems more accurate.

Actually, this may not be as funny as it sounds. Could they actually be using him as the defensive coach, at least regaining some small value for what they're paying him not to play as a player? If he stays with the team in this capacity, always inactive, he might even transition to an assistant coach with a typical assistant coach's salary after his contract has expired.

Or maybe they are planning some trick where they buy him out for a percentage of his salary, but then hire him back as a coach to make up the difference? This might be even better than stretching him, if it's legal under the CBA.

Of course, playing him to showcase him, then trading him (but for what????) would be considerably better for our cap, but as mentioned, playing him would be bad for our young C's. Not easy for Scott Perry.