ImageImageImageImageImage

OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits

Moderators: moocow007, Knickstape1214, magnumt, Capn'O, King of Canada, j4remi, Deeeez Knicks, Thorn, GONYK, NoLayupRule, mrpoetryNmotion, Thugger HBC

User avatar
Clyde_Style
RealGM
Posts: 21,336
And1: 6,312
Joined: Jul 12, 2009

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#21 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Dec 6, 2017 6:47 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Knicks Byke wrote:i hate hearing people getting sexually harrassed but a part of me wants Dolan to be involed in some **** like that.


Can't we pool our money to hire some hooker and a private investigator to set Dolan up. Get him all drunk and high and take photos of him taking it up the ass. What's so hard about that? :dontknow:


Image
...............................................................................Image
User avatar
Clyde_Style
RealGM
Posts: 21,336
And1: 6,312
Joined: Jul 12, 2009

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#22 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Dec 6, 2017 6:49 pm

1999 wrote:Be careful what you wish for. Dolan has had several missteps as owner of the Knicks but it could always be much worse. At the very least he’s not a cheap owner and he’s loyal. Could you imagine his loyalty with a trusted basketball mind? I feel bad that people use or organization to retire off of. Phil Jackson and Larry Brown come to mind. Just **** jobs they did while they were here.


Sounds like Jim Dolan's guitar pick caddy doesn't want to be out of a job
...............................................................................Image
1999
Ballboy
Posts: 45
And1: 21
Joined: Apr 25, 2012

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#23 » by 1999 » Wed Dec 6, 2017 6:50 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
1999 wrote:Be careful what you wish for. Dolan has had several missteps as owner of the Knicks but it could always be much worse. At the very least he’s not a cheap owner and he’s loyal. Could you imagine his loyalty with a trusted basketball mind? I feel bad that people use or organization to retire off of. Phil Jackson and Larry Brown come to mind. Just **** jobs they did while they were here.


Sounds like Jim Dolan's guitar pick caddy doesn't want to be out of a job


Ha... ha...


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM mobile app
User avatar
Capn'O
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 38,103
And1: 20,985
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
Location: Let's stop and get a hot dog
 

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#24 » by Capn'O » Wed Dec 6, 2017 7:17 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:dolan could be on sterling watch. and all them fools with the hawks too.


Wasn't the issue with Browne-Sanders for Dolan that he didn't take her complaints seriously and turned a blind eye to the harassment that she alleged? Could be the same here with Weinstein. If so, then we're seeing a developing course of conduct from Dolan.


Correct - the bulk of the case was negligence towards the complaint and retribution as well iirc. The high amount of the settlement actually had less to do with what Thomas did and more how MSG handled the complaints.



What I'm not understanding about this complaint is the nexus to Dolan. What influence did he have here? I'm not saying he didn't but I'm honestly asking what's different about him knowing vs. literally everyone in Hollywood who were seemingly more directly involved with him?
Image
User avatar
Clyde_Style
RealGM
Posts: 21,336
And1: 6,312
Joined: Jul 12, 2009

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#25 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Dec 6, 2017 7:21 pm

Capn'O wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:dolan could be on sterling watch. and all them fools with the hawks too.


Wasn't the issue with Browne-Sanders for Dolan that he didn't take her complaints seriously and turned a blind eye to the harassment that she alleged? Could be the same here with Weinstein. If so, then we're seeing a developing course of conduct from Dolan.


Correct - the bulk of the case was negligence towards the complaint and retribution as well iirc. The high amount of the settlement actually had less to do with what Thomas did and more how MSG handled the complaints.



What I'm not understanding about this complaint is the nexus to Dolan. What influence did he have here? I'm not saying he didn't but I'm honestly asking what's different about him knowing vs. literally everyone in Hollywood who was seemingly more directly involved with him?


...............................................................................Image
User avatar
Are We Ther Yet
Analyst
Posts: 3,117
And1: 1,861
Joined: Nov 07, 2012
       

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#26 » by Are We Ther Yet » Wed Dec 6, 2017 7:31 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Wasn't the issue with Browne-Sanders for Dolan that he didn't take her complaints seriously and turned a blind eye to the harassment that she alleged? Could be the same here with Weinstein. If so, then we're seeing a developing course of conduct from Dolan.


Correct - the bulk of the case was negligence towards the complaint and retribution as well iirc. The high amount of the settlement actually had less to do with what Thomas did and more how MSG handled the complaints.



What I'm not understanding about this complaint is the nexus to Dolan. What influence did he have here? I'm not saying he didn't but I'm honestly asking what's different about him knowing vs. literally everyone in Hollywood who was seemingly more directly involved with him?




Billionaire playing rock star in his own mind. That dude sucks. He's like...karaoke guy! LOL
User avatar
Clyde_Style
RealGM
Posts: 21,336
And1: 6,312
Joined: Jul 12, 2009

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#27 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Dec 6, 2017 7:38 pm

Are We Ther Yet wrote:Billionaire playing rock star in his own mind. That dude sucks. He's like...karaoke guy! LOL


He'd be the worst one at karaoke night though I would pay to see him do Bohemian Rhapsody just for chits and giggles
...............................................................................Image
User avatar
Are We Ther Yet
Analyst
Posts: 3,117
And1: 1,861
Joined: Nov 07, 2012
       

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#28 » by Are We Ther Yet » Wed Dec 6, 2017 7:39 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:Billionaire playing rock star in his own mind. That dude sucks. He's like...karaoke guy! LOL


He'd be the worst one at karaoke night though I would pay to see him do Bohemian Rhapsody just for chits and giggles


I know you know I know. Amirite?
User avatar
K P 6
RealGM
Posts: 32,028
And1: 10,136
Joined: Jun 27, 2006
Location: Getting over screens with Gusto.
Contact:
 

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#29 » by K P 6 » Wed Dec 6, 2017 7:57 pm

These thots coming for you if you have money. Its sad they would probably get away with it. This is the new come up. If you were harassed report it at that time. smfh
Image
Ntilikina Gang. SMFPB CMFGB SMFMB KMFPB FMFNB
amit wrote:Frank prime will be like 10 ppg. Hes not that kind of PG and we knew it since he got drafted. Thats why scorers players around frank will be the bast for him
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 17,394
And1: 9,912
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: MR. FRANKTASTIC

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#30 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Dec 6, 2017 8:43 pm

Are We Ther Yet wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Correct - the bulk of the case was negligence towards the complaint and retribution as well iirc. The high amount of the settlement actually had less to do with what Thomas did and more how MSG handled the complaints.



What I'm not understanding about this complaint is the nexus to Dolan. What influence did he have here? I'm not saying he didn't but I'm honestly asking what's different about him knowing vs. literally everyone in Hollywood who was seemingly more directly involved with him?




Billionaire playing rock star in his own mind. That dude sucks. He's like...karaoke guy! LOL


Is the CD cover supposed to look like getting your picture taken at one of those "old timey" places at an amusement park?

Is it some sort of theme in the song? Like the lyrics go "Remember when we were in love and the good times we had, dressing up for fake amusement park photos, before things got bad? Before you found out, and, you know, I know, you know, that I go to Wingos house for midget hookers, strap-ons and blow"

I mean, that is some heavy blues. Not sure Jim has that sort of lyricism in him. He might have something else in him, from Tuesday night, but that's another story.
User avatar
K P 6
RealGM
Posts: 32,028
And1: 10,136
Joined: Jun 27, 2006
Location: Getting over screens with Gusto.
Contact:
 

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#31 » by K P 6 » Wed Dec 6, 2017 8:56 pm

Jimmy got money out the @ss. Aint nothing happening to him.
Image
Ntilikina Gang. SMFPB CMFGB SMFMB KMFPB FMFNB
amit wrote:Frank prime will be like 10 ppg. Hes not that kind of PG and we knew it since he got drafted. Thats why scorers players around frank will be the bast for him
User avatar
Clyde_Style
RealGM
Posts: 21,336
And1: 6,312
Joined: Jul 12, 2009

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#32 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Dec 6, 2017 9:25 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:


Billionaire playing rock star in his own mind. That dude sucks. He's like...karaoke guy! LOL


Is the CD cover supposed to look like getting your picture taken at one of those "old timey" places at an amusement park?

Is it some sort of theme in the song? Like the lyrics go "Remember when we were in love and the good times we had, dressing up for fake amusement park photos, before things got bad? Before you found out, and, you know, I know, you know, that I go to Wingos house for midget hookers, strap-ons and blow"

I mean, that is some heavy blues. Not sure Jim has that sort of lyricism in him. He might have something else in him, from Tuesday night, but that's another story.


It's his failed audition photo to play a customer at the bordello in Westworld
...............................................................................Image
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 17,394
And1: 9,912
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: MR. FRANKTASTIC

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#33 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Dec 6, 2017 10:02 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:
Billionaire playing rock star in his own mind. That dude sucks. He's like...karaoke guy! LOL


Is the CD cover supposed to look like getting your picture taken at one of those "old timey" places at an amusement park?

Is it some sort of theme in the song? Like the lyrics go "Remember when we were in love and the good times we had, dressing up for fake amusement park photos, before things got bad? Before you found out, and, you know, I know, you know, that I go to Wingos house for midget hookers, strap-ons and blow"

I mean, that is some heavy blues. Not sure Jim has that sort of lyricism in him. He might have something else in him, from Tuesday night, but that's another story.


It's his failed audition photo to play a customer at the bordello in Westworld


He gets repeated cornholled by the Yule Brenner robot? Or is that only in Wingo's script?
User avatar
Oscirus
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,525
And1: 2,249
Joined: Dec 09, 2011
       

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#34 » by Oscirus » Wed Dec 6, 2017 10:22 pm

Unless females really start turning on Dolan and make a really huge deal of this, nothing is going to happen.
Read on Twitter
User avatar
Clyde_Style
RealGM
Posts: 21,336
And1: 6,312
Joined: Jul 12, 2009

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#35 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Dec 6, 2017 10:29 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Is the CD cover supposed to look like getting your picture taken at one of those "old timey" places at an amusement park?

Is it some sort of theme in the song? Like the lyrics go "Remember when we were in love and the good times we had, dressing up for fake amusement park photos, before things got bad? Before you found out, and, you know, I know, you know, that I go to Wingos house for midget hookers, strap-ons and blow"

I mean, that is some heavy blues. Not sure Jim has that sort of lyricism in him. He might have something else in him, from Tuesday night, but that's another story.


It's his failed audition photo to play a customer at the bordello in Westworld


He gets repeated cornholled by the Yule Brenner robot? Or is that only in Wingo's script?


I think that was a different Westworld you may have seen thirty years ago at your favorite Times Square cinema
...............................................................................Image
User avatar
Kampuchea
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,330
And1: 679
Joined: Oct 20, 2010
Location: Phnom Penh, Cambodia
       

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#36 » by Kampuchea » Wed Dec 6, 2017 10:56 pm

Leave Dolan alone. He’s not running the team and he’s spending plenty of money. Before when he was involved I say get rid of him but not now he’s taken a back seat.

Long
Live
Dolan!
Image
User avatar
HarthorneWingo
Knicks Forum Grandpa's Law
Posts: 41,764
And1: 13,662
Joined: May 16, 2005
   

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#37 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Dec 6, 2017 11:02 pm

It still has to be proven that Dolan has knowledge of Weinstein’s harassing behavior in order for him to be liable.
User avatar
Are We Ther Yet
Analyst
Posts: 3,117
And1: 1,861
Joined: Nov 07, 2012
       

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#38 » by Are We Ther Yet » Wed Dec 6, 2017 11:15 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:It still has to be proven that Dolan has knowledge of Weinstein’s harassing behavior in order for him to be liable.


I don't know any details. Not sure how Dolan is liable/responsible for things. Was he setting up women to be harassed?
User avatar
HarthorneWingo
Knicks Forum Grandpa's Law
Posts: 41,764
And1: 13,662
Joined: May 16, 2005
   

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#39 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Dec 6, 2017 11:19 pm

Are We Ther Yet wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:It still has to be proven that Dolan has knowledge of Weinstein’s harassing behavior in order for him to be liable.


I don't know any details. Not sure how Dolan is liable/responsible for things. Was he setting up women to be harassed?


LOL, no, not setting them up. But if he was in a position of power at the company and he had knowledge of Weinstein's harassing/assaultive behavior (as alleged) and he chose to ignore it and/or retaliate against the woman who made the report against Weinstein, then Dolan can be held liable.

Admittedly, these types of cases had dried up for a while so I'm not up on the current legal opinions in this area but the legal standard I just discussed is pretty the baseline for determining supervisory liability in these cases.
User avatar
GEOLINK
Pro Prospect
Posts: 842
And1: 524
Joined: Mar 16, 2014
       

Re: OT: Dolan now involved in Weinstein lawsuits 

Post#40 » by GEOLINK » Wed Dec 6, 2017 11:30 pm

Dolan just looks like a **** up person, honestly. You can just see it in his face he's not well up there.

Return to New York Knicks