What's wrong with Kristaps Porzingis right now?

[Amsterdam]

Mitchell would have helped KP a lot. Lack of support is a big reason for his declining. We **** up in the Draft and most here don't want to admit it.

1 Markelle Fultz PG/SG Philadelphia 76ers (from Brooklyn via Boston)
2 Lonzo Ball PG Los Angeles Lakers UCLA (Fr.)
3 Jayson Tatum SF Boston Celtics (from Sacramento via Philadelphia) Duke (Fr.)
4 Josh Jackson SF Phoenix Suns Kansas (Fr.)
5 De'Aaron Fox PG Sacramento Kings (from Philadelphia) Kentucky (Fr.)
6 Jonathan Isaac SF/PF Orlando Magic Florida State (Fr.)
7 Lauri Markkanen PF Minnesota Timberwolves (traded to Chicago Bulls)[a] Arizona (Fr.)
8 Frank Ntilikina PG France[n 2] New York Knicks SIG Strasbourg (France)
9 Dennis Smith Jr. PG Dallas Mavericks NC State (Fr.)
10 Zach Collins C/PF Sacramento Kings (from New Orleans,[D] traded to Portland Trail Blazers[b]) Gonzaga (Fr.)
11 Malik Monk SG Charlotte Hornets Kentucky (Fr.)
12 Luke Kennard SG Detroit Pistons Duke (So.)
13 Donovan Mitchell

Except for Tatum, Markkanen and Dennis Smith Jr, I'd say a portion of every team's fanbase are second guessing their picks. While the cream has risen with Tatum and Mitchell, no-one plays better defense than Frank. He has too much Euro ball in him and why not, it's how he grew up.

It is my belief right here, that once he sees more of Trey Burke and THJ, his mind set will take another step up on the ladder.

[Gil]

Mitchell would have helped KP a lot. Lack of support is a big reason for his declining. We **** up in the Draft and most here don't want to admit it.

1 Markelle Fultz PG/SG Philadelphia 76ers (from Brooklyn via Boston)
2 Lonzo Ball PG Los Angeles Lakers UCLA (Fr.)
3 Jayson Tatum SF Boston Celtics (from Sacramento via Philadelphia) Duke (Fr.)
4 Josh Jackson SF Phoenix Suns Kansas (Fr.)
5 De'Aaron Fox PG Sacramento Kings (from Philadelphia) Kentucky (Fr.)
6 Jonathan Isaac SF/PF Orlando Magic Florida State (Fr.)
7 Lauri Markkanen PF Minnesota Timberwolves (traded to Chicago Bulls)[a] Arizona (Fr.)
8 Frank Ntilikina PG France[n 2] New York Knicks SIG Strasbourg (France)
9 Dennis Smith Jr. PG Dallas Mavericks NC State (Fr.)
10 Zach Collins C/PF Sacramento Kings (from New Orleans,[D] traded to Portland Trail Blazers[b]) Gonzaga (Fr.)
11 Malik Monk SG Charlotte Hornets Kentucky (Fr.)
12 Luke Kennard SG Detroit Pistons Duke (So.)
13 Donovan Mitchell

Except for Tatum, Markkanen and Dennis Smith Jr, I'd say a portion of every team's fanbase are second guessing their picks. While the cream has risen with Tatum and Mitchell, no-one plays better defense than Frank. He has too much Euro ball in him and why not, it's how he grew up.

It is my belief right here, that once he sees more of Trey Burke and THJ, his mind set will take another step up on the ladder.

Lonzo & Jackson are legit.

[nyJnyKnyY]

23.7ppg, 7 rpg, 2.3 blks, 37% from 3...on a team that is currently devoid of any offensive talent and a steady PG...oh and he's 22. Nothing is wrong with him. The haters will be out now and when he plays well again they'll hide as always. Give me a break. Booing him on draft night to these numbers in year 3 before his 23rd birthday and it still isn't good enough.

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[Greenie]

KP is neighter strong or quick to dominate powerforwards at elbow spot. Why we force same thing over and over again instead of more catch and shoot type of game for KP? The guy is 7'3 and still weak. He shot bricks now because he was wrestling early on to get post position. Kp has his weaknesses and faults as well any player. I dont trust our coaching staff to hide them or teach to do better.

Cant wait for a coaching change. They burned KP before allstar with their stubborness. Offense looks like designed as if Melo still on the team.

Or maybe this is who he is.

[Kinglee]

How Melo still gets mentioned is beyond me

[Amsterdam]

Mitchell would have helped KP a lot. Lack of support is a big reason for his declining. We **** up in the Draft and most here don't want to admit it.

1 Markelle Fultz PG/SG Philadelphia 76ers (from Brooklyn via Boston)
2 Lonzo Ball PG Los Angeles Lakers UCLA (Fr.)
3 Jayson Tatum SF Boston Celtics (from Sacramento via Philadelphia) Duke (Fr.)
4 Josh Jackson SF Phoenix Suns Kansas (Fr.)
5 De'Aaron Fox PG Sacramento Kings (from Philadelphia) Kentucky (Fr.)
6 Jonathan Isaac SF/PF Orlando Magic Florida State (Fr.)
7 Lauri Markkanen PF Minnesota Timberwolves (traded to Chicago Bulls)[a] Arizona (Fr.)
8 Frank Ntilikina PG France[n 2] New York Knicks SIG Strasbourg (France)
9 Dennis Smith Jr. PG Dallas Mavericks NC State (Fr.)
10 Zach Collins C/PF Sacramento Kings (from New Orleans,[D] traded to Portland Trail Blazers[b]) Gonzaga (Fr.)
11 Malik Monk SG Charlotte Hornets Kentucky (Fr.)
12 Luke Kennard SG Detroit Pistons Duke (So.)
13 Donovan Mitchell

Except for Tatum, Markkanen and Dennis Smith Jr, I'd say a portion of every team's fanbase are second guessing their picks. While the cream has risen with Tatum and Mitchell, no-one plays better defense than Frank. He has too much Euro ball in him and why not, it's how he grew up.

It is my belief right here, that once he sees more of Trey Burke and THJ, his mind set will take another step up on the ladder.

Lonzo & Jackson are legit.

No doubt. Josh Jackson is what they've projected. As far as Mitchell, Devin Booker is already there. Jackson was a need and is a good fit in Phoenix. if DeAngelo Russell would have panned, would Lonzo have dropped?
Lonzo's rises been slow and family distractions are nuts! Not sure many that would have wanted that constant headache. Donovan Michell in hindsight, would be higher on LA 's chart right now too.

[Amsterdam]

1 Markelle Fultz PG/SG Philadelphia 76ers (from Brooklyn via Boston)
2 Lonzo Ball PG Los Angeles Lakers UCLA (Fr.)
3 Jayson Tatum SF Boston Celtics (from Sacramento via Philadelphia) Duke (Fr.)
4 Josh Jackson SF Phoenix Suns Kansas (Fr.)
5 De'Aaron Fox PG Sacramento Kings (from Philadelphia) Kentucky (Fr.)
6 Jonathan Isaac SF/PF Orlando Magic Florida State (Fr.)
7 Lauri Markkanen PF Minnesota Timberwolves (traded to Chicago Bulls)[a] Arizona (Fr.)
8 Frank Ntilikina PG France[n 2] New York Knicks SIG Strasbourg (France)
9 Dennis Smith Jr. PG Dallas Mavericks NC State (Fr.)
10 Zach Collins C/PF Sacramento Kings (from New Orleans,[D] traded to Portland Trail Blazers[b]) Gonzaga (Fr.)
11 Malik Monk SG Charlotte Hornets Kentucky (Fr.)
12 Luke Kennard SG Detroit Pistons Duke (So.)
13 Donovan Mitchell

Except for Tatum, Markkanen and Dennis Smith Jr, I'd say a portion of every team's fanbase are second guessing their picks. While the cream has risen with Tatum and Mitchell, no-one plays better defense than Frank. He has too much Euro ball in him and why not, it's how he grew up.

It is my belief right here, that once he sees more of Trey Burke and THJ, his mind set will take another step up on the ladder.

Lonzo & Jackson are legit.

No doubt. Josh Jackson is what they've projected. As far as Mitchell, Devin Booker is already there. Jackson was a need and is a good fit in Phoenix. if DeAngelo Russell would have panned, would Lonzo have dropped?
Lonzo's rises been slow and family distractions are nuts! Not sure many that would have wanted that constant headache. Donovan Michell in hindsight, would be higher on LA 's chart right now too.

Don't want to redirect the thread towards Frank/Mitchell. My only point is that once Frank's game continues to adapt and attacks more, KP is going to get cleaner looks.
Lastly, Mitchell doesn't run the Jazz's offense, Ricky Rubio does that. So no one knows with 100% certainty and in NY, how Mitchell would be doing in that strict role.

[drekwins]

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A FG% that's about to go into the 42's is a problem. Idc what your PPG or 3 Point percentages are. Neither of those matter when 75.8% of your shots are from 2 point range and you're inefficient. He'd be better off just standing behind the line and chucking.

[thebuzzardman]

How Melo still gets mentioned is beyond me

Easy

KP isn't that great and Melo was a selfish ballstopper whose style of play isn't conducive to winning

Not that hard.

[god shammgod]

Read on Twitter

this guy been reading realgm

[Phish Tank]

Read on Twitter

this guy been reading realgm

I guess he listened to me and stopped asking about Willy's minutes

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Think I was reading a deadspin article that pointed out how so few of his shots come from three or at the rim. Which is not usually efficient basketball. He may specialize in derozans old way of playing.

[thebuzzardman]

Read on Twitter

this guy been reading realgm

I was just coming here to post this very same thing

[Fat Kat]

Do we have proper big man trainer for him? Some of the things because of his weak body but also some of the things happens because he is skipping fundamental stuff on rebounding and positioning, moves on post.

Ask Janis

[Sark]

Read on Twitter

this guy been reading realgm

[GEOLINK]

Mitchell would have helped KP a lot. Lack of support is a big reason for his declining. We **** up in the Draft and most here don't want to admit it.

1 Markelle Fultz PG/SG Philadelphia 76ers (from Brooklyn via Boston)
2 Lonzo Ball PG Los Angeles Lakers UCLA (Fr.)
3 Jayson Tatum SF Boston Celtics (from Sacramento via Philadelphia) Duke (Fr.)
4 Josh Jackson SF Phoenix Suns Kansas (Fr.)
5 De'Aaron Fox PG Sacramento Kings (from Philadelphia) Kentucky (Fr.)
6 Jonathan Isaac SF/PF Orlando Magic Florida State (Fr.)
7 Lauri Markkanen PF Minnesota Timberwolves (traded to Chicago Bulls)[a] Arizona (Fr.)
8 Frank Ntilikina PG France[n 2] New York Knicks SIG Strasbourg (France)
9 Dennis Smith Jr. PG Dallas Mavericks NC State (Fr.)
10 Zach Collins C/PF Sacramento Kings (from New Orleans,[D] traded to Portland Trail Blazers[b]) Gonzaga (Fr.)
11 Malik Monk SG Charlotte Hornets Kentucky (Fr.)
12 Luke Kennard SG Detroit Pistons Duke (So.)
13 Donovan Mitchell

Except for Tatum, Markkanen and Dennis Smith Jr, I'd say a portion of every team's fanbase are second guessing their picks. While the cream has risen with Tatum and Mitchell, no-one plays better defense than Frank. He has too much Euro ball in him and why not, it's how he grew up.

It is my belief right here, that once he sees more of Trey Burke and THJ, his mind set will take another step up on the ladder.

Finally someone with sense!

[GEOLINK]

KP is neighter strong or quick to dominate powerforwards at elbow spot. Why we force same thing over and over again instead of more catch and shoot type of game for KP? The guy is 7'3 and still weak. He shot bricks now because he was wrestling early on to get post position. Kp has his weaknesses and faults as well any player. I dont trust our coaching staff to hide them or teach to do better.

Cant wait for a coaching change. They burned KP before allstar with their stubborness. Offense looks like designed as if Melo still on the team.

Or maybe this is who he is.

Rookie year KP was a completely different player. Wasn’t until last year that they started forcing elbow post up plays for him instead of him being a more catch & shoot, putback player that he showed he could be.

This completely falls on Jeff and the coaching staff.

[Kinglee]

KP is neighter strong or quick to dominate powerforwards at elbow spot. Why we force same thing over and over again instead of more catch and shoot type of game for KP? The guy is 7'3 and still weak. He shot bricks now because he was wrestling early on to get post position. Kp has his weaknesses and faults as well any player. I dont trust our coaching staff to hide them or teach to do better.

Cant wait for a coaching change. They burned KP before allstar with their stubborness. Offense looks like designed as if Melo still on the team.

Or maybe this is who he is.

Rookie year KP was a completely different player. Wasn’t until last year that they started forcing elbow post up plays for him instead of him being a more catch & shoot, putback player that he showed he could be.

This completely falls on Jeff and the coaching staff.

Excuse them for wanting him to be more than Ryan Anderson

[thebuzzardman]

Or maybe this is who he is.

Rookie year KP was a completely different player. Wasn’t until last year that they started forcing elbow post up plays for him instead of him being a more catch & shoot, putback player that he showed he could be.

This completely falls on Jeff and the coaching staff.

Excuse them for wanting him to be more than Ryan Anderson

They should. But even Ryan Anderson does more than spot up for 3. He posts a little and puts the ball on the floor some.

The thing is - and the stats were posted - tall guys don't hold up under the minutes and usage rate KP is getting and there is no way around the fact that he's 7'3". Sure, some of it may be his anemia or conditioning, but I think they are just playing him too many minutes.

As far as usage, KP's got a variety of talents but a the ones that should be most "awesome" aren't really. He's a streaky 3 point shooter. But he can do it. His post game is, well, a work in progress. He's pretty mobile for a guy his size and 7'3" alters the other team's offense and he's good at that. That's a very useful player. Maybe never a franchise player. But it's up to the coaching staff to play him to his strengths and MAKE him play to his strengths. Sure he can "Iso post" a couple of times a game. But that's it. I'm on record I never want to see KP dribble again. Stop that crossover BS, trying to back guys down with dribbles etc. Save that sh*t for year 5 or whenever it's actually good. Screen for him, flash for 12 foot jumpers, flash into the paint for quick shots, let him shoot a few 3's.

Pretty sure KP's talent level and base mentality is a "within the flow of the offense" sort of guy. But Janis and the Knicks got it in his head he's "The man". He's not. But he'd be a good part of a cohesive team that moves the ball and gets him the ball off movement. And KP doesn't have to be 7'3" Reggie Miller or Rip Hamilton for that to happen.

Oh, and with less minutes and usage he wouldn't turn into a statue in the 2nd half of games due to exhaustion, like he has 3 Januaries in a row. Hopefully.

[GEOLINK]

Or maybe this is who he is.

Rookie year KP was a completely different player. Wasn’t until last year that they started forcing elbow post up plays for him instead of him being a more catch & shoot, putback player that he showed he could be.

This completely falls on Jeff and the coaching staff.

Excuse them for wanting him to be more than Ryan Anderson

In what weird dimension does Ryan Anderson enter in your mind as a comparison for KP...

All I was saying is KP’s main offensive go to shouldn’t be a elbow post up.