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Re: Shams: Knicks and Trey Burke in Serious Talks on a deal 

Post#481 » by Red Vines » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:35 pm

Burke's comeback is pretty similar to Hardaway's, good first year: 1st team all-rookie, ROY runner-up, struggled sophomore year, re-dedicated themselves, went to G-League, bounced back. Nothing that crazy about it.
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Re: Shams: Knicks and Trey Burke in Serious Talks on a deal 

Post#482 » by MaseInYourFace » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:58 pm

Red Vines wrote:Burke's comeback is pretty similar to Hardaway's, good first year: 1st team all-rookie, ROY runner-up, struggled sophomore year, re-dedicated themselves, went to G-League, bounced back. Nothing that crazy about it.


Well he still needs to come back and be productive in NBA. Let's see...
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Re: Shams: Knicks and Trey Burke in Serious Talks on a deal 

Post#483 » by DrKnick » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:58 pm

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Re: Shams: Knicks and Trey Burke in Serious Talks on a deal 

Post#484 » by Cappy_Smurf » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:13 pm

Red Vines wrote:Burke's comeback is pretty similar to Hardaway's, good first year: 1st team all-rookie, ROY runner-up, struggled sophomore year, re-dedicated themselves, went to G-League, bounced back. Nothing that crazy about it.


His first year wasn't that good. That was just a terrible crop of rookies, so he looked ok by default.
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Re: Shams: Knicks and Trey Burke in Serious Talks on a deal 

Post#485 » by Knicksfan1992 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:14 pm

Red Vines wrote:Going to guess there is a trade in place but the other team needed to wait until the weekend for whatever reason. The rumor was initially that the deal would be this weekend which was kind of odd. Otherwise we would've just waived Sessions, got Burke into some practices already and had him available.


I just don't know why anyone would have to wait for this weekend unless we're trading for Mirotic... Just an odd situation. I'm guessing like you said we'll have more clarity after this G-League showcase. Is it possible that the hold up is on Trey's side. Looking for more of a guarantee/longer years/etc.
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Re: Shams: Knicks and Trey Burke in Serious Talks on a deal 

Post#486 » by BBALLER4FR » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:17 pm

I say bring him here already. If anything his ex-teammate, who had a resurrection of his own, could show him the way. Then again, I was hopeful KP would keep Willy's head on straight. Hopefully this works out for us... if it ever happens.
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Re: Shams: Knicks and Trey Burke in Serious Talks on a deal 

Post#487 » by god shammgod » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:37 pm

what's holding this up is that they probably can't find what they want for willy.
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Re: Shams: Knicks and Trey Burke in Serious Talks on a deal 

Post#488 » by K P 6 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:59 pm

Jack and Sessions holding this up. Probably trade our 3rd youngest player instead. Never change knicks, :banghead:
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Re: Shams: Knicks and Trey Burke in Serious Talks on a deal 

Post#489 » by NoLayupRule » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:05 pm

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Red Vines wrote:Going to guess there is a trade in place but the other team needed to wait until the weekend for whatever reason. The rumor was initially that the deal would be this weekend which was kind of odd. Otherwise we would've just waived Sessions, got Burke into some practices already and had him available.


I just don't know why anyone would have to wait for this weekend unless we're trading for Mirotic... Just an odd situation. I'm guessing like you said we'll have more clarity after this G-League showcase. Is it possible that the hold up is on Trey's side. Looking for more of a guarantee/longer years/etc.
im pretty sure it’s the roster spot

If we wanna move someone like baker or sessions we have to wait, right?
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Post#490 » by Huey Freeman » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:06 pm

god shammgod wrote:what's holding this up is that they probably can't find what they want for willy.

I'm thinking the same thing but I also believe that shouldn't stop them from cutting Sessions RIGHT NOW which wouldn't stop this signing.
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Post#491 » by Knicksfan1992 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:06 pm

god shammgod wrote:what's holding this up is that they probably can't find what they want for willy.


I wonder why... :roll: :lol:
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Post#492 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:19 pm

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god shammgod wrote:what's holding this up is that they probably can't find what they want for willy.

I'm thinking the same thing but I also believe that shouldn't stop them from cutting Sessions RIGHT NOW which wouldn't stop this signing.


Yeah, he really brings nothing to the table. Even if there's a trade that opens a roster spot, Sessions should be cut (unless it involves Sessions).
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Post#493 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:24 pm

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god shammgod wrote:what's holding this up is that they probably can't find what they want for willy.

I'm thinking the same thing but I also believe that shouldn't stop them from cutting Sessions RIGHT NOW which wouldn't stop this signing.


Yeah, he really brings nothing to the table. Even if there's a trade that opens a roster spot, Sessions should be cut (unless it involves Sessions).


might as well hang onto sessions until the deadline as potential salary match fodder then.

i think we should cut him for burke, but if there's a trade that opens up a spot, i'm not releasing sessions until i know i can't do anything with his sunk money.
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Post#494 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:24 pm

y'all got the crystal ball out. :lol:
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Re: Shams: Knicks and Trey Burke in Serious Talks on a deal 

Post#495 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:34 pm

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Huey Freeman wrote:I'm thinking the same thing but I also believe that shouldn't stop them from cutting Sessions RIGHT NOW which wouldn't stop this signing.


Yeah, he really brings nothing to the table. Even if there's a trade that opens a roster spot, Sessions should be cut (unless it involves Sessions).


might as well hang onto sessions until the deadline as potential salary match fodder then.

i think we should cut him for burke, but if there's a trade that opens up a spot, i'm not releasing sessions until i know i can't do anything with his sunk money.


It's a small deal so probably slim chance we would need it to match. Plus we have similiar valued contracts we could include. Just throw in Jack or Beasley.

The money may be the hold up though. It never looks good to cut a guaranteed deal you just signed a few months ago. We haven't done that much. Seems like we have resisted cutting useless players with guaranteed money so that might be something from Dolan.
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Re: Shams: Knicks and Trey Burke in Serious Talks on a deal 

Post#496 » by HEZI » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:42 pm

Trade Jarrett Jack to Houston for a 2nd round pick. They need a backup PG
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Re: Shams: Knicks and Trey Burke in Serious Talks on a deal 

Post#497 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:28 pm

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Yeah, he really brings nothing to the table. Even if there's a trade that opens a roster spot, Sessions should be cut (unless it involves Sessions).


might as well hang onto sessions until the deadline as potential salary match fodder then.

i think we should cut him for burke, but if there's a trade that opens up a spot, i'm not releasing sessions until i know i can't do anything with his sunk money.


It's a small deal so probably slim chance we would need it to match. Plus we have similiar valued contracts we could include. Just throw in Jack or Beasley.

The money may be the hold up though. It never looks good to cut a guaranteed deal you just signed a few months ago. We haven't done that much. Seems like we have resisted cutting useless players with guaranteed money so that might be something from Dolan.


oh, i hear you. if we risk missing out on a player we like, it makes no sense to wait. sessions is an easy cut candidate. but also doesn't make sense to cut players before the trade deadline just because. it's not likely that you need $2.3m to make a trade work... but you might. and better to move a player you don't find useful than one who may have SOME value or use.

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Re: Shams: Knicks and Trey Burke in Serious Talks on a deal 

Post#498 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:38 pm

HEZI wrote:Trade Jarrett Jack to Houston for a 2nd round pick. They need a backup PG

Sessions; he’s a D’Antoni guy.
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Re: Shams: Knicks and Trey Burke in Serious Talks on a deal 

Post#499 » by HEZI » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:03 pm

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:
HEZI wrote:Trade Jarrett Jack to Houston for a 2nd round pick. They need a backup PG

Sessions; he’s a D’Antoni guy.


I don't imagine Sessions having any value though, not even a 2nd round pick type of value. Jack is hands down better and can contribute more
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Re: Shams: Knicks and Trey Burke in Serious Talks on a deal 

Post#500 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:06 pm

HEZI wrote:
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:
HEZI wrote:Trade Jarrett Jack to Houston for a 2nd round pick. They need a backup PG

Sessions; he’s a D’Antoni guy.


I don't imagine Sessions having any value though, not even a 2nd round pick type of value. Jack is hands down better and can contribute more

Who are we fooling? Neither have value lol.
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