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Post#701 » by ibraheim718 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:17 am

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BBALLER4FR wrote:How do you get all this production from Jack, still lose and people still call for his head?

Jack wont be here next season.

it's basically sharing your bonuses with a temp. :lol:


That's fine but he's still producing better than our rookie and he's playing decent enough at age 60. If anythign you would think the rest of these guys or such "talent" would make use of this guys effort.


Jack gets to do whatever he wants tho without fear or repercussions. The kid can't make a mistake before he's yanked.
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Post#702 » by Jay10 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:17 am

Kristaps needs to stop trying to be like other players and plant his ass in the paint.
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Post#704 » by XxMisterFreakXx » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:17 am

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thebuzzardman wrote:LFT/FFN - 43 minutes, 0 points, 3 assists, 5 TO, 1 Rebound - COMBINED


I'm gonna give Frank a chance but LFT should never see the court ever again not a single minute.


Frank had a sh*tty game.

He's the LFT of point guards and his nickname is FFN until he starts doing something on offense.


Frank's not even a teenager gotta give him some time he's only 19 who played in Europe his whole career if he doesn't show improvement next 2 or 3 years then ya i guess.
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Post#705 » by BenLaw » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:18 am

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BBALLER4FR wrote:How do you get all this production from Jack, still lose and people still call for his head?


Still as plus 3. May have something to with it.
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Post#707 » by ibraheim718 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:18 am

Jay10 wrote:Kristaps needs to stop trying to be like other players and plant his ass in the paint.


He can't do that yet.. how do you not see him trying. That's part of the reason why he gasses early.
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Post#708 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:18 am

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god shammgod wrote:even though kp falls off badly every year i still like him. because he's still easily the best we got even if he's never what we hoped. but therein lies the problem. this team, as it's put together for now and the future, is garbage.


He's a nice 3rd option. Still the best player at that spot in the draft.

Knicks missed out on the prized that year and the Frank year. SOS.


he might be a good 2nd option or even a 1b to someone else's 1a. but he might not be built to just carry an offense for a whole year. lots of very good players on their own can't.



IF, big IF, KP is a 1a, it's in 3 years.

His conditioning SUCKS
His post game is "meh"
He's a streaky shooter
His dribble drive game is LFT scary, but he does it constantly
He has Harringtons (both of them) level tunnel vision in the post
After december he stops trying as hard on defense and starts drifting on offense


Doesn't sound like a 1 or even a 2. He's like a 3rd option player on a good team, outside of his hot start.
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Post#709 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:19 am

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Thugger HBC wrote:Jack wont be here next season.

it's basically sharing your bonuses with a temp. :lol:


That's fine but he's still producing better than our rookie and he's playing decent enough at age 60. If anythign you would think the rest of these guys or such "talent" would make use of this guys effort.


Jack gets to do whatever he wants tho without fear or repercussions. The kid can't make a mistake before he's yanked.

Agreed, the only one still praising Jack at the moment is Jeff. He hasn't been bad, but he aint starter quality at all, and his minutes allotment at this point is truly pointless.
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Post#710 » by BBALLER4FR » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:19 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Jack wont be here next season.

it's basically sharing your bonuses with a temp. :lol:


That's fine but he's still producing better than our rookie and he's playing decent enough at age 60. If anythign you would think the rest of these guys or such "talent" would make use of this guys effort.


Jack gets to do whatever he wants tho without fear or repercussions. The kid can't make a mistake before he's yanked.


All he has to do is contribute to the offense and I bet he doesn't get pulled as quickly. His defense is not good enough to keep him on the floor.
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Post#711 » by dakomish23 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:20 am

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THJ has been inconsistent as a secondary scorer and isn’t in the top 50 in FTA.

I think he’s more suited to be a lethal 6th man who plays a 30+ mins and can play next to either starter.

I think they find a legit 3&D guy that might work better as the starter.

We’ll see how it plays out but that’s where I think it’s heading.

Huh....are you serious Take out the first couple weeks and he has been All star caliber


lol right. THJ gets to the line 3.6 times a game which is a good amount. Obv not in top 50 w games missed.

A 3 and D guy is not what you need next to Frank. You need a scorer. That's what THJ is. And THJ plays slightly above avg defense. I'd even argue it's better than Lee's.


I turned off qualified and searched all players and he’s not top 50.

I def don’t see the slightly above average defense.

THJ is not consistent. Maybe he becomes that and I’m wrong. Right now I see him as a super sub. Seemed all right in that role tonight.
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Post#712 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:20 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
Jay10 wrote:Kristaps needs to stop trying to be like other players and plant his ass in the paint.


He can't do that yet.. how do you not see him trying. That's part of the reason why he gasses early.


KP has practiced enough trying to post up for this year

For the rest of the year:
Spot up jumpers
Catch and shoot plays
Flash to catch and shoot
No dribbling. Ever.

Next year he can practice posting up some more.
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Post#713 » by Jay10 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:21 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
Jay10 wrote:Kristaps needs to stop trying to be like other players and plant his ass in the paint.


He can't do that yet.. how do you not see him trying. That's part of the reason why he gasses early.


He's gassed because his workouts in the offseason are geared towards him being on the perimeter the entire game.

When is he going to realize chasing around power forwards on the perimeter the entire game isn't helping him?
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Post#714 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:22 am

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KAT's team was just that a few years ago even with Wigging. But they added a coach and competent players and just look. We add oil to vinegar and ask a moron to prepare this mixed salad.


KT didn't fall off like a weak b*tch each year though


They were still a garbage team then and for the forseeable future until Thibs brought his Bulls students.


True. Because their front office was wise enough to suck, they acquired some young talent, then pulled the trigger on deals, and managed the cap to bring in some guys at the end.

Knicks are trying to get to 36 wins to dilute whatever talent they have a shot at. Yay. :D
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Post#715 » by Mecca » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:23 am

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knicks85 wrote:Huh....are you serious Take out the first couple weeks and he has been All star caliber


lol right. THJ gets to the line 3.6 times a game which is a good amount. Obv not in top 50 w games missed.

A 3 and D guy is not what you need next to Frank. You need a scorer. That's what THJ is. And THJ plays slightly above avg defense. I'd even argue it's better than Lee's.


I turned off qualified and searched all players and he’s not top 50.

I def don’t see the slightly above average defense.

THJ is not consistent. Maybe he becomes that and I’m wrong. Right now I see him as a super sub. Seemed all right in that role tonight.


Again, he missed games. That obviously is a reason. He'd hover around top 50.

Outside of the first 5-6 games, THJ has been consistent. KP isn't consistent either so maybe he should be a 6th man as well?

THJ has shown enough to warrant a starting gig. Secondly, you can't pay 2 2 Guards money in free agency.
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Post#716 » by dakomish23 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:23 am

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You need a scorer next to Frank. Having someone that can get to the line is even better. They're a pretty perfect duo and the one part of this team I like outside of KP.


THJ has been inconsistent as a secondary scorer and isn’t in the top 50 in FTA.

I think he’s more suited to be a lethal 6th man who plays a 30+ mins and can play next to either starter.

I think they find a legit 3&D guy that might work better as the starter.

We’ll see how it plays out but that’s where I think it’s heading.

Huh....are you serious Take out the first couple weeks and he has been All star caliber


He played 6 weeks and you want to throw out a couple of those?

Tell me which weeks you want to throw out. Let’s see what the numbers are from that point till he got hurt.
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Post#717 » by Greenie » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:23 am

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What rebuild? Jack looks great!!!
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Post#718 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:24 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
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Thugger HBC wrote:Jack wont be here next season.

it's basically sharing your bonuses with a temp. :lol:


That's fine but he's still producing better than our rookie and he's playing decent enough at age 60. If anythign you would think the rest of these guys or such "talent" would make use of this guys effort.


Jack gets to do whatever he wants tho without fear or repercussions. The kid can't make a mistake before he's yanked.


I used to care, but Frank has been bad the last few games. Even his defense has regressed.
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Post#719 » by Mecca » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:26 am

dakomish23 wrote:
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THJ has been inconsistent as a secondary scorer and isn’t in the top 50 in FTA.

I think he’s more suited to be a lethal 6th man who plays a 30+ mins and can play next to either starter.

I think they find a legit 3&D guy that might work better as the starter.

We’ll see how it plays out but that’s where I think it’s heading.

Huh....are you serious Take out the first couple weeks and he has been All star caliber


He played 6 weeks and you want to throw out a couple of those?

Tell me which weeks you want to throw out. Let’s see what the numbers are from that point till he got hurt.


How about you just take out the first 6-7 games when he was getting adjusted and getting rid of nerves. Lemme see the stats
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Post#720 » by god shammgod » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:27 am

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He's a nice 3rd option. Still the best player at that spot in the draft.

Knicks missed out on the prized that year and the Frank year. SOS.


he might be a good 2nd option or even a 1b to someone else's 1a. but he might not be built to just carry an offense for a whole year. lots of very good players on their own can't.



IF, big IF, KP is a 1a, it's in 3 years.

His conditioning SUCKS
His post game is "meh"
He's a streaky shooter
His dribble drive game is LFT scary, but he does it constantly
He has Harringtons (both of them) level tunnel vision in the post
After december he stops trying as hard on defense and starts drifting on offense


Doesn't sound like a 1 or even a 2. He's like a 3rd option player on a good team, outside of his hot start.


i'm just saying he wouldn't look like this with more talent though. he would look better. until they get some other legit players i won't completely dismiss him. he may never be the type that with no other all-stars would get you to playoffs every year. but there are hall of famers who couldn't do that either.
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