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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#101 » by Dr. Detfink » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:08 pm

This is a wierd hire. Shurmur has been largely a disaster as a head coach but then again, Vince Lombardi couldn't turn the Brown around. Usually the Giants are renown for bringing in guys within their organization at one point or another.

My question is, why don't the Giants go after Belichick? Go get the man you want. Don't hire the next Jim Fassel.
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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#102 » by Crackerjack465 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:45 pm

Dr. Detfink wrote:This is a wierd hire. Shurmur has been largely a disaster as a head coach but then again, Vince Lombardi couldn't turn the Brown around. Usually the Giants are renown for bringing in guys within their organization at one point or another.

My question is, why don't the Giants go after Belichick? Go get the man you want. Don't hire the next Jim Fassel.


Because Bill isn't leaving New England and he's under contract.

I like the move and I hope Del Rio is next.
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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#103 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:22 pm

Giants GM Gettleman wants Eli Manning at quarterback, but will look at 2018 class



New York Giants general manager Dave Gettleman reaffirmed his desire for Eli Manning to remain as the team's quarterback in their meeting more than a week ago and shared some of his team-building vision while conceding he still will evaluate quarterbacks in the 2018 NFL draft class, according to sources familiar with their discussion.


Barkley or a Trade down?

not a fan of either of the top QBs

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22169271/dave-gettleman-wants-eli-manning-new-york-giants-quarterback-rebuild


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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#104 » by Sark » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:35 pm

Giants are a bigger joke of a franchise now than the Knicks. Never thought I'd see the day.
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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#105 » by KOA » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:56 pm

Sark wrote:Giants are a bigger joke of a franchise now than the Knicks. Never thought I'd see the day.


How do you figure? They had a **** year, but they have a top pick and some amazing talent to build off of between Beckham, Collins, Shepard, Engram, Harrison, JPP, Vernon, etc.

The Knicks have KP and the buck stops there...
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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#106 » by Knickstape1214 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:07 pm

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Giants GM Gettleman wants Eli Manning at quarterback, but will look at 2018 class



New York Giants general manager Dave Gettleman reaffirmed his desire for Eli Manning to remain as the team's quarterback in their meeting more than a week ago and shared some of his team-building vision while conceding he still will evaluate quarterbacks in the 2018 NFL draft class, according to sources familiar with their discussion.


Barkley or a Trade down?

not a fan of either of the top QBs

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22169271/dave-gettleman-wants-eli-manning-new-york-giants-quarterback-rebuild


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I actually like Rosen a lot. Also like Mayfield, but not at #2.
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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#107 » by Crackerjack465 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:11 pm

Sark wrote:Giants are a bigger joke of a franchise now than the Knicks. Never thought I'd see the day.


I'm not even sure how the comparison is even close. The Giants made a bad coaching move last year but the team can still turn this around quickly. They have a decent amount of cap space and a premium draft choice. I like the coaching hire and the new staff seems to be shaping up nicely (ST coach from Carolina / potentially Del Rio).

The Knicks are 20 year losers that went from being bottom feeders to a 9th seed treadmill team.
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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#108 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:38 pm

Sark wrote:Giants are a bigger joke of a franchise now than the Knicks. Never thought I'd see the day.


Is this April fools Day? Let's see when was the last time the Knicks won the NBA Championship....oh that's right 1970. Since 1970, the Giants have been NFL Champions 4 times!
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Post#109 » by K P 6 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:50 pm

Shurmur is a such a great play caller. Will make Eli look respectable again. Fast start for the Vikings.
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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#110 » by Knickstape1214 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:51 pm

K P 6 wrote:Shurmur is a such a great play caller. Will make Rosen look amazing. Fast start for the Vikings.


Fixed that for ya, bud. :D
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Post#111 » by K P 6 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:52 pm

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K P 6 wrote:Shurmur is a such a great play caller. Will make Rosen look amazing. Fast start for the Vikings.


Fixed that for ya, bud. :D

No way we draft a QB lol. It sucks that we didn't give Webb a shot.
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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#112 » by Knickstape1214 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:54 pm

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K P 6 wrote:Shurmur is a such a great play caller. Will make Rosen look amazing. Fast start for the Vikings.


Fixed that for ya, bud. :D

No way we draft a QB lol. It sucks that we didn't give Webb a shot.

I disagree. I think we absolutely draft a QB. Eli is done and we need someone to carry the torch. I think Rosen is that dude.
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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#113 » by K P 6 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:58 pm

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Fixed that for ya, bud. :D

No way we draft a QB lol. It sucks that we didn't give Webb a shot.

I disagree. I think we absolutely draft a QB. Eli is done and we need someone to carry the torch. I think Rosen is that dude.

whoever it is they better be good.
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amit wrote:Frank prime will be like 10 ppg. Hes not that kind of PG and we knew it since he got drafted. Thats why scorers players around frank will be the bast for him
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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#114 » by tuna108 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:30 am

hope the coach is better than Macdoodoo...minnesota getting destroyed
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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#115 » by IllmaticHandler » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:35 am

MPH whats up with ya man?


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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#116 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:06 am

IllmaticHandler wrote:MPH whats up with ya man?


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man I don't know if shurmur going to be a good coach or not. :lol: Just thought he's the best option out there for what we are looking for. We probably shouldn't overreact either way if the vikings put up 30 or they put up 7...probably has no determination of his success here.

all i know is that case keenum INT for a TD turned the game around. Then going in for the another score keenum got stripped sacked and instead of maybe 21-14 it was 24-7 (pretty much game over).

I also am glad we are getting him 2 weeks earlier. Get him in so we can figure out his staff and start to find out if Eli/Webb is the QB situation we can work with going forward.
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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#117 » by KOA » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:23 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:
Giants GM Gettleman wants Eli Manning at quarterback, but will look at 2018 class



New York Giants general manager Dave Gettleman reaffirmed his desire for Eli Manning to remain as the team's quarterback in their meeting more than a week ago and shared some of his team-building vision while conceding he still will evaluate quarterbacks in the 2018 NFL draft class, according to sources familiar with their discussion.


Barkley or a Trade down?

not a fan of either of the top QBs

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22169271/dave-gettleman-wants-eli-manning-new-york-giants-quarterback-rebuild


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I actually like Rosen a lot. Also like Mayfield, but not at #2.


It feels the best thing to do would be to trade down. None of the quarterbacks have separated themselves as franchise once in a decade QBs.

Josh Rosen - With his injury history, I'm surprised people have him going as high as they do. My gut is he will slip on draft day. Aside from injuries, he doesn't win games. You can point to the talent around him, but that's just an excuse if he is really that great of a quarterback. Not to mention he has attitude issues.

Sam Darnold - Took a step back this year with too many turnovers. It's something he can definitely improve upon; I see the Browns taking him first overall.

Josh Allen - The least NFL ready of the top QBs in this draft. Not very accurate and will need time to grow and make smarter decisions.

Baker Mayfield - I actually really like Mayfield. He has some attitude issues, but his passion for the game is undeniable. People will point to his lack of size and poor footwork but if he can keep his head on straight he can win football games.
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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#119 » by K P 6 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:06 am

Nicks foles stands no chance against Brady I'm sorry lol

Let's get the staff together and get to work.
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Re: Giants expected to hire Pat Shurmur as new coach 

Post#120 » by ibraheim718 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:13 am

K P 6 wrote:Nicks foles stands no chance against Brady I'm sorry lol

Let's get the staff together and get to work.


He just carved up the best defense in the NFL. I think he's got a chance.

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