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(OT) I went on a date with Aziz Ansari. It turned into the worst night of my life

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Re: RE: Re: (OT) I went on a date with Aziz Ansari. It turned into the worst night of my life 

Post#21 » by GONYK » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:07 pm

KnickXxxx wrote:We saw the liberal lobby for metoo movement slip as more and more powerful influential liberals got caught up and basically no republicans.

First regret came with Louie. Just cracks.

It got much bigger with Al Franken. There was a large faction on the left that wanted him still in office until multiple more stories came out. And we had photographic evidence of him groping.

Now Aziz and liberals are going all in on crashing MeToo now.

Same hypocritical lack of morals as ever.

Enough with this ****. Discuss the topic and keep your politics out of it.
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Re: RE: Re: (OT) I went on a date with Aziz Ansari. It turned into the worst night of my life 

Post#22 » by KnickXxxx » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:09 pm

GONYK wrote:
KnickXxxx wrote:We saw the liberal lobby for metoo movement slip as more and more powerful influential liberals got caught up and basically no republicans.

First regret came with Louie. Just cracks.

It got much bigger with Al Franken. There was a large faction on the left that wanted him still in office until multiple more stories came out. And we had photographic evidence of him groping.

Now Aziz and liberals are going all in on crashing MeToo now.

Same hypocritical lack of morals as ever.

Enough with this ****. Discuss the topic and keep your politics out of it.


Politics are interrelated. The response to Aziz has to do with this MeToo scandal being liberal centric.
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Post#23 » by GONYK » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:11 pm

KnickXxxx wrote:
GONYK wrote:
KnickXxxx wrote:We saw the liberal lobby for metoo movement slip as more and more powerful influential liberals got caught up and basically no republicans.

First regret came with Louie. Just cracks.

It got much bigger with Al Franken. There was a large faction on the left that wanted him still in office until multiple more stories came out. And we had photographic evidence of him groping.

Now Aziz and liberals are going all in on crashing MeToo now.

Same hypocritical lack of morals as ever.

Enough with this ****. Discuss the topic and keep your politics out of it.


Politics are interrelated. The response to Aziz has to do with this MeToo scandal being liberal based.

Yet plenty of posters have found a way to address the topic without even mentioning politics.

So can you.

Otherwise, feel free to take your opinions to the Current Affairs board.
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Re: (OT) I went on a date with Aziz Ansari. It turned into the worst night of my life 

Post#24 » by KnickXxxx » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:12 pm

Anyone see James Franco on Colbert the other day? Stuttering around trying to excuse himself after in the past he said women need to be believed no matter what? A certain side of politics really backed themselves into the corner with this one.
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Post#25 » by GONYK » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:17 pm

KnickXxxx wrote:Anyone see James Franco on Colbert the other day? Stuttering around trying to excuse himself after in the past he said women need to be believed no matter what? A certain side of politics really backed themselves into the corner with this one.


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Re: RE: Re: (OT) I went on a date with Aziz Ansari. It turned into the worst night of my life 

Post#26 » by Meat » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:25 pm

KnickXxxx wrote:
GONYK wrote:
KnickXxxx wrote:We saw the liberal lobby for metoo movement slip as more and more powerful influential liberals got caught up and basically no republicans.

First regret came with Louie. Just cracks.

It got much bigger with Al Franken. There was a large faction on the left that wanted him still in office until multiple more stories came out. And we had photographic evidence of him groping.

Now Aziz and liberals are going all in on crashing MeToo now.

Same hypocritical lack of morals as ever.

Enough with this ****. Discuss the topic and keep your politics out of it.


Politics are interrelated. The response to Aziz has to do with this MeToo scandal being liberal centric.

you think anti sexual assault is liberal ideal?
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Re: (OT) I went on a date with Aziz Ansari. It turned into the worst night of my life 

Post#27 » by MaseInYourFace » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:26 pm

Controversial to say the least. But as men you gotta understand if she seems uncomfortable or is not doing something aggressively sexual you gotta back off. It's a new world folks. She definitely should have been more clear if she was uncomfortable. In reality she's just confused. However, that doesn't totally excuse Aziz.
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Post#28 » by fatalogic » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:42 pm

I spoke about this with my gf and we both think it was definitely not cool but not sexual assault either. Not sexual assault but still not a good look either. There are always guys who can be overly aggressive which is what Aziz was but at the same time he can't read minds. Some men may have picked up on her non verbal communication but the assumption that all men will is dangerous. This is a case where two people have two different communication styles, yet they were trying do be intimate.

Non verbal and non direct communication has become so common place that when a situation requires direct and explicit communication, people often don't know what to do. I think a big part of the problem is the internet and social media. People don't know how to talk to each other anymore. It's this weird dance they do to say something without actually saying it, just hoping someone will pick up on the clues they supposedly left.

Anyway if you're a person in power and you don't have a consent contract you better be prepared to catch the heat one day.
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Post#29 » by spree8 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:54 pm

Damn Aziz... should’ve got her to sign that Love Contract.


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Post#30 » by prolific96 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:03 pm

Some of ya coming across as insensitive. It isn't easy for every woman to speak up given the historical conception on gender roles. With that said, its hard to say it was an sexual assault and the timing seems sus. Honestly this should've never been made public. She called him out for what he is (a pig) and that should've been the end.
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Post#31 » by Knicksfan1992 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:04 pm

GONYK wrote:This author, who happens to be a woman, did not hold back in her criticism:
When she saw Ansari at the party, she was excited by his celebrity—“Grace said it was surreal to be meeting up with Ansari, a successful comedian and major celebrity”—which the [50's and 60's] magazines would have told us was shallow; he brushed her off, but she kept after him, which they would have called desperate; doing so meant ignoring her actual date of the evening, which they would have called cruel. Agreeing to meet at his apartment—instead of expecting him to come to her place to pick her up—they would have called unwise; ditto drinking with him alone. Drinking, we were told, could lead to a girl’s getting “carried away,” which was the way female sexual desire was always characterized in these things—as in, “She got carried away the night of the prom.” As for what happened sexually, the writers would have blamed her completely: What was she thinking, getting drunk with an older man she hardly knew, after revealing her eagerness to get close to him? The signal rule about dating, from its inception in the 1920s to right around the time of the Falklands War, was that if anything bad happened to a girl on a date, it was her fault.

Those magazines didn’t prepare teenage girls for sports or STEM or huge careers; the kind of world-conquering, taking-numbers strength that is the common language of the most-middle-of-the road cultural products aimed at today’s girls was totally absent. But in one essential aspect they reminded us that we were strong in a way that so many modern girls are weak. They told us over and over again that if a man tried to push you into anything you didn’t want, even just a kiss, you told him flat out you weren’t doing it. If he kept going, you got away from him. You were always to have “mad money” with you: cab fare in case he got “fresh” and then refused to drive you home. They told you to slap him if you had to; they told you to get out of the car and start wailing if you had to. They told you to do whatever it took to stop him from using your body in any way you didn’t want, and under no circumstances to go down without a fight. In so many ways, compared with today’s young women, we were weak; we were being prepared for being wives and mothers, not occupants of the C-Suite. But as far as getting away from a man who was trying to pressure us into sex we didn’t want, we were strong.

Was Grace frozen, terrified, stuck? No. She tells us that she wanted something from Ansari and that she was trying to figure out how to get it. She wanted affection, kindness, attention. Perhaps she hoped to maybe even become the famous man’s girlfriend. He wasn’t interested. What she felt afterward—rejected yet another time, by yet another man—was regret. And what she and the writer who told her story created was 3,000 words of revenge porn. The clinical detail in which the story is told is intended not to validate her account as much as it is to hurt and humiliate Ansari. Together, the two women may have destroyed Ansari’s career, which is now the punishment for every kind of male sexual misconduct, from the grotesque to the disappointing.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/01/the-humiliation-of-aziz-ansari/550541/


Spot on critique. All this does is marginalize females who actually have been victims of sexual assault and are scared to come out...
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Post#32 » by E86 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:13 pm

How is this different than the stories of a lot of the women coming out now? Because it’s Aziz? Is it not possible that she felt compelled to go along with it because of his celebrity?

This ain’t much different than some broad banging Weinstein for a role in a movie. And If Hollywood is going to act like an arbitrator of morality then Aziz shouldn’t be spared. This is what you get.

This is what happens when you don’t push back against stupid ideologies. Women are just as gross as men, let’s stop playing around already. How many female teachers need to get popped for diddling school boys before we realize this is all bull crap?
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Post#33 » by gavran » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:25 pm

I watched Aziz is Scrubs, and had the same exact experience as the woman. But at least I didn't blow his twice in the process.
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Post#34 » by NoLayupRule » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:33 pm

they exchanged small talk and drank wine. “It was white,” she said. “I didn’t get to choose and I prefer red, but it was white wine.”


truly horrifying
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Post#35 » by E-Balla » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:46 pm

Part that got me was when she said to him "you're just like the other guys". Sounds like she wanted the dude she saw on TV and legitimately thought he was going to fall for her but got mad he was trying to smash and move on. He has no game but she's the worst.
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Post#36 » by E-Balla » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:49 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:Controversial to say the least. But as men you gotta understand if she seems uncomfortable or is not doing something aggressively sexual you gotta back off. It's a new world folks. She definitely should have been more clear if she was uncomfortable. In reality she's just confused. However, that doesn't totally excuse Aziz.

He asked her where she wants to have sex. She said slow down so he obliged, she got dressed and they watched TV. Then he asked for a BJ and she gave him one. Yeah he's thirsty but come on now you can't expect him to know the girl who was trotting around naked, got that cat ate, and blew him twice wasn't having a good time.
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Post#37 » by E-Balla » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:53 pm

E86 wrote:How is this different than the stories of a lot of the women coming out now? Because it’s Aziz? Is it not possible that she felt compelled to go along with it because of his celebrity?

This ain’t much different than some broad banging Weinstein for a role in a movie. And If Hollywood is going to act like an arbitrator of morality then Aziz shouldn’t be spared. This is what you get.

This is what happens when you don’t push back against stupid ideologies. Women are just as gross as men, let’s stop playing around already. How many female teachers need to get popped for diddling school boys before we realize this is all bull crap?

1. He had no power over her. Weinstein was literally the boss of those women with the power to make or break their careers. Aziz was some random. Who cares if he is a celebrity its not like outside of being on TV and rich he meant anything to her.

2. He actually asked for all the sexual acts described and she agreed to them. When she finally said no he stopped and called her an Uber.

3. We do need to start stigmatizing teachers banging students. That **** is wrong and male teachers get no leeway but they do.
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Post#38 » by BigShot Bojan » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:57 pm

prolific96 wrote:Some of ya coming across as insensitive. It isn't easy for every woman to speak up given the historical conception on gender roles. With that said, its hard to say it was an sexual assault and the timing seems sus. Honestly this should've never been made public. She called him out for what he is (a pig) and that should've been the end.

everything was consensual, how is he a pig?
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Post#39 » by MaseInYourFace » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:57 pm

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MaseInYourFace wrote:Controversial to say the least. But as men you gotta understand if she seems uncomfortable or is not doing something aggressively sexual you gotta back off. It's a new world folks. She definitely should have been more clear if she was uncomfortable. In reality she's just confused. However, that doesn't totally excuse Aziz.

He asked her where she wants to have sex. She said slow down so he obliged, she got dressed and they watched TV. Then he asked for a BJ and she gave him one. Yeah he's thirsty but come on now you can't expect him to know the girl who was trotting around naked, got that cat ate, and blew him twice wasn't having a good time.


He was horny and felt like he wasn't going to let her leave his apartment without at least getting some head out of it. But he needed to realize it wasn't worth the trouble.
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Post#40 » by Fury » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:01 pm

She got his number when she was on a date herself, ditched that dude, walked around naked, didn’t leave after she knew what was up, I dunno. Take some agency

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