Doc Rivers to NY?

[Deeeez Knicks]

Eh, not a fan especially since he may push some win now moves. Fixing the roster is way more important.

[Synciere]

I swear I don't understand some of you.

You don't want Doc Rivers, who won Coach of the Year as a rookie head coach, has won with no names and won it all with Hall of Fame talent, has consistently taken teams to the playoffs, and has always had teams play hard, but you'll cape for David Blatt??

Some of you just like to throw shade and dirt, I swear. You're never happier than when telling everyone what is wrong with someone else. Executives, players, coaches, refs... doesn't matter... Who would you like then? Does that person have more experience or rings than Doc?

[Synciere]

I could most definitely get behind bringing Doc Rivers in. I don't think that automatically means Austin is going to follow him here either lol... That said, I'm not sure I see a reason to fire Hornacek either.

[shtolky]

why are the knicks linked to dumbass coaches?

last thing we need is doc making the knicks overpay for his dumb son.

We're not really linked here. Just a tweet to rile up the fans pointing out that Doc will be available. Can't see us going that route. Who the hell knows.

Also, he's not that bad as a coach. He's just a horrific GM but that wouldn't happen here.

[Handledatruth]

I could most definitely get behind bringing Doc Rivers in. I don't think that automatically means Austin is going to follow him here either lol... That said, I'm not sure I see a reason to fire Hornacek either.

Frank N will be the reason.

[MP4LIFE]

why are the knicks linked to dumbass coaches?

last thing we need is doc making the knicks overpay for his dumb son.

We're not really linked here. Just a tweet to rile up the fans pointing out that Doc will be available. Can't see us going that route. Who the hell knows.

Also, he's not that bad as a coach. He's just a horrific GM but that wouldn't happen here.

He's a mediocre coach too. We don't need any more of them.

[shtolky]

why are the knicks linked to dumbass coaches?

last thing we need is doc making the knicks overpay for his dumb son.

We're not really linked here. Just a tweet to rile up the fans pointing out that Doc will be available. Can't see us going that route. Who the hell knows.

Also, he's not that bad as a coach. He's just a horrific GM but that wouldn't happen here.

He's a mediocre coach too. We don't need any more of them.

Yea, I wouldn't take him. I just don't know who else will be out there should we let Hornacek go.

[KnicksGadfly]

Our roster for next year:

Marcus Smart
Avery Bradley
Paul Pierce
Leon Powe
Glen Davis

Am I forgetting any other ex-Celtics he might bring aboard?

Celtics got such a steal by trading this guy away. They not only got some assets, but they got a bonafide franchise coach. We really need to get this next coaching decision right. Doc Rivers is not the right guy.

[mrcalzone]

Doc's voice sounds ashy as hell.

He also lobbies the officials pretty well during games.
Doc works em over, all night.

[newyorker4ever]

Doc Rivers is THE MOST OVERRATED COACH IN THE NBA...NBAs Jon gruden

Thank you, i only clicked on this link to come and post about how he's one of, if not the most overrated coach in the NBA. He's never done much at all besides the one year that the Celtics started the whole building a super team when getting K.Garnett and R.Allen to join P.Pierce and R.Rondo in Boston.

[blueNorange]

why are the knicks linked to dumbass coaches?

last thing we need is doc making the knicks overpay for his dumb son.

We're not really linked here. Just a tweet to rile up the fans pointing out that Doc will be available. Can't see us going that route. Who the hell knows.

Also, he's not that bad as a coach. He's just a horrific GM but that wouldn't happen here.

except he is a bad coach.

anyone can look good when you have:

garnett
pierce
allen
rondo

and then have:

jordan
griffin
redick
cp3

[Knox]

[god shammgod]

i thought kane was kidding yesterday

[newyorker4ever]

what do i think? get the **** outta here.

I want some young wunderkind like brad stevens. i don't know who or where that person is, but that is who i want.

Shaka Smart??



Ettore Messina, San Antonio Spurs assistant coach
Placing Messina on a list of rising stars in the coaching field feels sacrilegious. At 57, he is one of international basketball's most distinguished coaches in history, a winner of four Euroleague championships and a slew of league titles in Italy and Russia. Messina has coached in just about every basketball context imaginable, which makes him a top candidate in an era when diversity of experience is considered a prime attribute for a future head coach.

After his career in Europe, Messina came stateside to join Mike Brown's staff in Los Angeles as a consultant before returning to Moscow for a couple of seasons. While in Moscow in 2012-13, he employed Quin Snyder as an assistant; Messina is godfather to Snyder's infant son. In 2014, Messina took his lifetime of experience into the crucible that is the San Antonio Spurs.

Messina is intense, but the Spurs also have a way of smoothing off rough edges in a personality. In Europe, player development occurs primarily at the youth level, but in San Antonio, Messina has been exposed to its importance in the NBA, further filling out his education. Tactically, Messina fashioned in Europe an intelligent brand of inside-out ball that forces defenses to move. He has amassed a canon of basketball knowledge and commands respect from professionals, young and old.

Those who know Messina say he'd more likely gravitate toward a team with a veteran roster, but given the breadth of his portfolio, any team looking for a serious, dedicated leader might very well have Messina on its target list.

Jerry Stackhouse, Raptors 905 head coach (D-League)
Before his playing career was even over, Stackhouse was providing spot duty as a de facto player development coach -- you could find him in 2011 at the Heat's facility working with Dwyane Wade on his post game. But it's one thing to get on the floor with a teammate, and another to build the kind of portfolio that makes a successful NBA head coach.

Those who have watched Stackhouse over the past two seasons, first on the Raptors' staff and then as the head coach of their D-League team, say he is doing all the right things. In addition to the respect he commands from players, Stackhouse, an 18-year former pro, has demonstrated a serious desire to learn the craft. He took USA Select teams abroad, attended Tim Grgurich's much-admired coaching camp, mentored fellow Kinston, North Carolina, native Brandon Ingram, and has become a devoted cinephile who spends endless sessions poring over film.

This season, Stackhouse's 905 squad has posted the best record in the D-League's Eastern Conference. Like every coach with big aspirations, he arrived with ambitious ideas that he has learned to adjust on the fly. He's a grinder who Raptors insiders say often holds twice daily practices, but he also enjoys the creative tasks of finding shots for guys. All the while, he continues to hone his skills as a game manager and messenger and seeks out advice from Dwane Casey and other vets of the trade. The league has taken notice of Stackhouse's maturation and success, and several execs expect he'll be on the interview circuit before long.


Darvin Ham, Atlanta Hawks assistant coach
There's an odd contradiction at work with former players who have head-coaching ambitions. On one hand, guys who played in the NBA frequently jump the line and score top jobs over career assistants who have broken down video, scouted opponents, designed top defenses and sat at the feet of coaching legends. Yet, at the same time, there's often a stigma that portrays them as lacking the work ethic of the schleps who have slept on a couch at the facility for 15 years.

Did you know the famed "hammer pass" is named for Ham? He enjoyed a nine-year career in the NBA, and colleagues say he has a coach's intuition. When Quin Snyder moved from the Lakers to Atlanta in 2012, he urged Ham, who also sat on Mike Brown's bench, to seize the opportunity to claim more responsibility in Atlanta. An assistant on Budenholzer's staff, which is quickly sprouting its own coaching tree, performs a full rotation of tasks, from cutting video to intensive individual work with players.

Ham plays an enormous role with the Hawks and does it without a lot of rah-rah battle cries. He understands the difference between pride and passion, ego and intelligence, and can tell a player -- be it a vet like Dwight Howard or a young guy like Dennis Schroder -- the truth even if it isn't what he wants to hear. He knows that you prepare a reliable vet if he's going to be the whipping boy in a film session, but that you probably don't do the same for a rookie, because you want to see how he's going to react.

Ham is the kind of guy -- not unlike his boss -- who could probably be happy for years as a top assistant. But one suspects that, like Budenholzer, he'd be cheating himself if he didn't throw his hat in the ring at some point for a head-coaching opportunity.

Brent Barry, Turner Sports analyst
There are any number of factors that can get a coaching candidate on the radar, from years of service on the bench to a pedigree as an NBA point guard. Then there are less perceptible qualities: a fluency in the language and culture of the NBA, self-possession and a heap of goodwill from around the league. In those latter categories, Barry, 45, receives glowing reviews.

In the NBA, where it's vital for a head coach to be able to establish a culture amid the noise, Barry has quietly emerged as one of the league's more interesting candidates. During his 14-year career, Barry played for a diverse range of NBA minds, from old-school Bill Fitch to offensive whiz Rick Adelman to luminary Gregg Popovich. Barry has a native curiosity that compels him to delve into innovations such as sports science and performance, but he also is a lifer who appreciates that the game is still one governed by human behavior.

Despite receiving nibbles by a number of NBA teams over the past couple of seasons for both coaching and managerial positions, Barry has told suitors that his current plan is to spend as much time as possible with his school-aged kids over the next few years. When he's ready to jump into the league in an official capacity, word is that he favors a route that would land him first in a front office, where he can study the architecture and mechanics of an NBA franchise, not unlike Steve Kerr, who served a stint as Phoenix's general manager for three seasons. After that, Barry would be inclined to move to the bench.



Chris Fleming, Brooklyn Nets assistant coach
Fleming spent 15 years coaching in Germany, where he racked up a ton of league and cup championships and still presides as the national team coach. After a single season under Michael Malone in Denver, he joined Richmond Spiders teammate Kenny Atkinson in Brooklyn last summer.

Three smart front-office folks who keep stock of the NBA's coaching ranks named Fleming one of their favorite below-the-radar prospects. They see a guy who carved out a unique path overseas. They see a grinder in a cutthroat job that requires superb communications skills and an appreciation for players of vastly different backgrounds, ages and pedigrees. Fleming is regarded as terrific with people, but he's no softie, either -- his personality profile is similar to that of his boss in Brooklyn.

Creativity reigns supreme in Europe, and Fleming brought that sensibility to the U.S. And like Atkinson, he has a versatile skill set as an X's and O's maven who isn't afraid to get his hands dirty on the court developing talent -- especially important in Brooklyn, where the Nets will need to coach up their ragtag group of journeymen and kids. Fleming is still a relative unknown to many in the NBA, but look for that to change as the league continues to dig for interesting people who have the blend of experience to succeed in the top job.




Leading names who have not previously held the position on a non-interim basis.

James Borrego, San Antonio Spurs assistant coach
After serving as the interim head coach in Orlando following the firing of Jacque Vaughn in 2015, Borrego returned to Gregg Popovich's staff in San Antonio. Memphis was deeply impressed when interviewing Borrego for its opening last spring.

Alex Jensen, Utah Jazz assistant coach
Once Rick Majerus' leading disciple, Jensen has established a reputation as one of the league's best young assistant coaches with sharp instincts for the game and a commanding presence.

Jarron Collins, Golden State Warriors assistant coach
Known as the consummate professional during his playing days, Collins is now regarded as one of the sharpest basketball minds on the Warriors' staff.

Tony Bennett, University of Virginia head coach
Along with Jay Wright, Bennett is the most oft-mentioned by NBA execs as the collegiate coach most capable of making the jump to the NBA. There's no indication as to whether Bennett has any yearning to leave Charlottesville for the pros.

Stephen Silas, Charlotte Hornets assistant coach
The Rockets gave Silas a long look for the first chair last offseason, and those who know him say he has an intuitive feel for the game and understands how to convey that quality to players and colleagues.

Nate Tibbetts, Portland Trail Blazers assistant coach
Like Silas, Tibbets has a reputation as a guy who loves the job and excels at every facet of it. His successful four-year stint in the D-League gives him a solid base of experience as the top dog.

[Da ThRONe]

All these speculations about a new coach all seems to center around coaches having some type of connection to the franchise. Mills and Perry seem smart enough not to make a decision based off of anything outside of the current roster and/or Bball acumen of the coach or so you guys should hope.

[Jeffrey]

Super overrated. No thank you. Maybe stars will listen to him but has he develop young kids? Rondo? Rivers?

[MP4LIFE]

what do i think? get the **** outta here.

I want some young wunderkind like brad stevens. i don't know who or where that person is, but that is who i want.

Shaka Smart??



Ettore Messina, San Antonio Spurs assistant coach
Placing Messina on a list of rising stars in the coaching field feels sacrilegious. At 57, he is one of international basketball's most distinguished coaches in history, a winner of four Euroleague championships and a slew of league titles in Italy and Russia. Messina has coached in just about every basketball context imaginable, which makes him a top candidate in an era when diversity of experience is considered a prime attribute for a future head coach.

After his career in Europe, Messina came stateside to join Mike Brown's staff in Los Angeles as a consultant before returning to Moscow for a couple of seasons. While in Moscow in 2012-13, he employed Quin Snyder as an assistant; Messina is godfather to Snyder's infant son. In 2014, Messina took his lifetime of experience into the crucible that is the San Antonio Spurs.

Messina is intense, but the Spurs also have a way of smoothing off rough edges in a personality. In Europe, player development occurs primarily at the youth level, but in San Antonio, Messina has been exposed to its importance in the NBA, further filling out his education. Tactically, Messina fashioned in Europe an intelligent brand of inside-out ball that forces defenses to move. He has amassed a canon of basketball knowledge and commands respect from professionals, young and old.

Those who know Messina say he'd more likely gravitate toward a team with a veteran roster, but given the breadth of his portfolio, any team looking for a serious, dedicated leader might very well have Messina on its target list.

Jerry Stackhouse, Raptors 905 head coach (D-League)
Before his playing career was even over, Stackhouse was providing spot duty as a de facto player development coach -- you could find him in 2011 at the Heat's facility working with Dwyane Wade on his post game. But it's one thing to get on the floor with a teammate, and another to build the kind of portfolio that makes a successful NBA head coach.

Those who have watched Stackhouse over the past two seasons, first on the Raptors' staff and then as the head coach of their D-League team, say he is doing all the right things. In addition to the respect he commands from players, Stackhouse, an 18-year former pro, has demonstrated a serious desire to learn the craft. He took USA Select teams abroad, attended Tim Grgurich's much-admired coaching camp, mentored fellow Kinston, North Carolina, native Brandon Ingram, and has become a devoted cinephile who spends endless sessions poring over film.

This season, Stackhouse's 905 squad has posted the best record in the D-League's Eastern Conference. Like every coach with big aspirations, he arrived with ambitious ideas that he has learned to adjust on the fly. He's a grinder who Raptors insiders say often holds twice daily practices, but he also enjoys the creative tasks of finding shots for guys. All the while, he continues to hone his skills as a game manager and messenger and seeks out advice from Dwane Casey and other vets of the trade. The league has taken notice of Stackhouse's maturation and success, and several execs expect he'll be on the interview circuit before long.


Darvin Ham, Atlanta Hawks assistant coach
There's an odd contradiction at work with former players who have head-coaching ambitions. On one hand, guys who played in the NBA frequently jump the line and score top jobs over career assistants who have broken down video, scouted opponents, designed top defenses and sat at the feet of coaching legends. Yet, at the same time, there's often a stigma that portrays them as lacking the work ethic of the schleps who have slept on a couch at the facility for 15 years.

Did you know the famed "hammer pass" is named for Ham? He enjoyed a nine-year career in the NBA, and colleagues say he has a coach's intuition. When Quin Snyder moved from the Lakers to Atlanta in 2012, he urged Ham, who also sat on Mike Brown's bench, to seize the opportunity to claim more responsibility in Atlanta. An assistant on Budenholzer's staff, which is quickly sprouting its own coaching tree, performs a full rotation of tasks, from cutting video to intensive individual work with players.

Ham plays an enormous role with the Hawks and does it without a lot of rah-rah battle cries. He understands the difference between pride and passion, ego and intelligence, and can tell a player -- be it a vet like Dwight Howard or a young guy like Dennis Schroder -- the truth even if it isn't what he wants to hear. He knows that you prepare a reliable vet if he's going to be the whipping boy in a film session, but that you probably don't do the same for a rookie, because you want to see how he's going to react.

Ham is the kind of guy -- not unlike his boss -- who could probably be happy for years as a top assistant. But one suspects that, like Budenholzer, he'd be cheating himself if he didn't throw his hat in the ring at some point for a head-coaching opportunity.

Brent Barry, Turner Sports analyst
There are any number of factors that can get a coaching candidate on the radar, from years of service on the bench to a pedigree as an NBA point guard. Then there are less perceptible qualities: a fluency in the language and culture of the NBA, self-possession and a heap of goodwill from around the league. In those latter categories, Barry, 45, receives glowing reviews.

In the NBA, where it's vital for a head coach to be able to establish a culture amid the noise, Barry has quietly emerged as one of the league's more interesting candidates. During his 14-year career, Barry played for a diverse range of NBA minds, from old-school Bill Fitch to offensive whiz Rick Adelman to luminary Gregg Popovich. Barry has a native curiosity that compels him to delve into innovations such as sports science and performance, but he also is a lifer who appreciates that the game is still one governed by human behavior.

Despite receiving nibbles by a number of NBA teams over the past couple of seasons for both coaching and managerial positions, Barry has told suitors that his current plan is to spend as much time as possible with his school-aged kids over the next few years. When he's ready to jump into the league in an official capacity, word is that he favors a route that would land him first in a front office, where he can study the architecture and mechanics of an NBA franchise, not unlike Steve Kerr, who served a stint as Phoenix's general manager for three seasons. After that, Barry would be inclined to move to the bench.



Chris Fleming, Brooklyn Nets assistant coach
Fleming spent 15 years coaching in Germany, where he racked up a ton of league and cup championships and still presides as the national team coach. After a single season under Michael Malone in Denver, he joined Richmond Spiders teammate Kenny Atkinson in Brooklyn last summer.

Three smart front-office folks who keep stock of the NBA's coaching ranks named Fleming one of their favorite below-the-radar prospects. They see a guy who carved out a unique path overseas. They see a grinder in a cutthroat job that requires superb communications skills and an appreciation for players of vastly different backgrounds, ages and pedigrees. Fleming is regarded as terrific with people, but he's no softie, either -- his personality profile is similar to that of his boss in Brooklyn.

Creativity reigns supreme in Europe, and Fleming brought that sensibility to the U.S. And like Atkinson, he has a versatile skill set as an X's and O's maven who isn't afraid to get his hands dirty on the court developing talent -- especially important in Brooklyn, where the Nets will need to coach up their ragtag group of journeymen and kids. Fleming is still a relative unknown to many in the NBA, but look for that to change as the league continues to dig for interesting people who have the blend of experience to succeed in the top job.




Leading names who have not previously held the position on a non-interim basis.

James Borrego, San Antonio Spurs assistant coach
After serving as the interim head coach in Orlando following the firing of Jacque Vaughn in 2015, Borrego returned to Gregg Popovich's staff in San Antonio. Memphis was deeply impressed when interviewing Borrego for its opening last spring.

Alex Jensen, Utah Jazz assistant coach
Once Rick Majerus' leading disciple, Jensen has established a reputation as one of the league's best young assistant coaches with sharp instincts for the game and a commanding presence.

Jarron Collins, Golden State Warriors assistant coach
Known as the consummate professional during his playing days, Collins is now regarded as one of the sharpest basketball minds on the Warriors' staff.

Tony Bennett, University of Virginia head coach
Along with Jay Wright, Bennett is the most oft-mentioned by NBA execs as the collegiate coach most capable of making the jump to the NBA. There's no indication as to whether Bennett has any yearning to leave Charlottesville for the pros.

Stephen Silas, Charlotte Hornets assistant coach
The Rockets gave Silas a long look for the first chair last offseason, and those who know him say he has an intuitive feel for the game and understands how to convey that quality to players and colleagues.

Nate Tibbetts, Portland Trail Blazers assistant coach
Like Silas, Tibbets has a reputation as a guy who loves the job and excels at every facet of it. His successful four-year stint in the D-League gives him a solid base of experience as the top dog.

This is the type of the outside the box thinking the Knicks have never had, instead hiring retreads or big names who had already seen their best years. It’s sad how poorly our coaching has been for almost 20 years but that also coincides with terrible management.

[kane2021]

i thought kane was kidding yesterday

It’ll be a historic contract too. Somewhere between highest active and highest all time. Which is 11 and 12 annually.


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[vallen]

Nah man. If we didn't give Pat or Mark Jackson a shot why Doc?

Doc is the kind of name brand Dolan likes.

[Jeffrey]

if you didn't like the way Hornaceck handled KP, Noah, and Morris for calling them out. Don't mention the name David Blatt.