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blazeyo wrote:Oh my god 3totheheadmelo... Troy Brown is so raw man. He needs to stay a few years in college.
He is so out of it on the defensive end, man. He loses his man of the ball on every position. He is a complete Astronaut.
Can't believe he was your role model.
blazeyo wrote:Oh my god 3totheheadmelo... Troy Brown is so raw man. He needs to stay a few years in college.
He is so out of it on the defensive end, man. He loses his man of the ball on every position. He is a complete Astronaut.
Can't believe he was your role model.
BeagleBoss wrote:Do people here have the patience if Perry and Mills draft another project like Ntilikina?
3toheadmelo wrote:blazeyo wrote:Oh my god 3totheheadmelo... Troy Brown is so raw man. He needs to stay a few years in college.
He is so out of it on the defensive end, man. He loses his man of the ball on every position. He is a complete Astronaut.
Can't believe he was your role model.
BeagleBoss wrote:Do people here have the patience if Perry and Mills draft another project like Ntilikina?
3toheadmelo wrote:blazeyo wrote:Oh my god 3totheheadmelo... Troy Brown is so raw man. He needs to stay a few years in college.
He is so out of it on the defensive end, man. He loses his man of the ball on every position. He is a complete Astronaut.
Can't believe he was your role model.
Mecca wrote:HEZI wrote:Mecca wrote:
Yeah, but Cal has a track record of his players becoming good NBA players. He's pretty much a developmental system for pros.
Nah, Cal has a track record of getting top recruits to come to his school. Guys who were on a path to the NBA before ever playing for him. You're writing off Knox like he's a proven bust and coming up with some "odds" out of thin air just because you don't like what you see, meanwhile Malik Monk and DeAaron Fox haven't exactly lit the NBA world on fire yet.
Fox has been really good since returning from his injury.
Monk has been bad.
Why do top recruits continue to go to Cal w lesser roles then? They respect his ability to develop them and get them ready for the pros
I don't think Knox will be a bust. I think he's another role player IE Wilson Chandler. I'm shooting for the stars w this pick.
IllmaticHandler wrote:I'm getting put in forum jail to much these days....
HEZI wrote:Mecca wrote:HEZI wrote:
Nah, Cal has a track record of getting top recruits to come to his school. Guys who were on a path to the NBA before ever playing for him. You're writing off Knox like he's a proven bust and coming up with some "odds" out of thin air just because you don't like what you see, meanwhile Malik Monk and DeAaron Fox haven't exactly lit the NBA world on fire yet.
Fox has been really good since returning from his injury.
Monk has been bad.
Why do top recruits continue to go to Cal w lesser roles then? They respect his ability to develop them and get them ready for the pros
I don't think Knox will be a bust. I think he's another role player IE Wilson Chandler. I'm shooting for the stars w this pick.
Fox hasn't been really good since coming back from injury, he's been inconsistent just less inconsistent than he was prior to the injury when he looked BAD!
The top recruits go to Kentucky because it's a big name school and they know the light will be on them when they go there. You can shoot for the stars all you want but you're not guaranteed to hit anything
HEZI wrote:Mecca wrote:HEZI wrote:
Nah, Cal has a track record of getting top recruits to come to his school. Guys who were on a path to the NBA before ever playing for him. You're writing off Knox like he's a proven bust and coming up with some "odds" out of thin air just because you don't like what you see, meanwhile Malik Monk and DeAaron Fox haven't exactly lit the NBA world on fire yet.
Fox has been really good since returning from his injury.
Monk has been bad.
Why do top recruits continue to go to Cal w lesser roles then? They respect his ability to develop them and get them ready for the pros
I don't think Knox will be a bust. I think he's another role player IE Wilson Chandler. I'm shooting for the stars w this pick.
Fox hasn't been really good since coming back from injury, he's been inconsistent just less inconsistent than he was prior to the injury when he looked BAD!
The top recruits go to Kentucky because it's a big name school and they know the light will be on them when they go there. You can shoot for the stars all you want but you're not guaranteed to hit anything
Mecca wrote:HEZI wrote:Mecca wrote:
Fox has been really good since returning from his injury.
Monk has been bad.
Why do top recruits continue to go to Cal w lesser roles then? They respect his ability to develop them and get them ready for the pros
I don't think Knox will be a bust. I think he's another role player IE Wilson Chandler. I'm shooting for the stars w this pick.
Fox hasn't been really good since coming back from injury, he's been inconsistent just less inconsistent than he was prior to the injury when he looked BAD!
The top recruits go to Kentucky because it's a big name school and they know the light will be on them when they go there. You can shoot for the stars all you want but you're not guaranteed to hit anything
I got Fox in fantasy so I been watching. W the dysfunction of that roster, he's been super strong. I'd love to see a Knicks rookie PG drop 26 in a night.
There are mad big name schools that don't get what Cal gets. Sh*t Kentucky pre-Cal didn't get these players. UNC is THEE school and have 0 pros.
HEZI wrote:Mecca wrote:HEZI wrote:
Fox hasn't been really good since coming back from injury, he's been inconsistent just less inconsistent than he was prior to the injury when he looked BAD!
The top recruits go to Kentucky because it's a big name school and they know the light will be on them when they go there. You can shoot for the stars all you want but you're not guaranteed to hit anything
I got Fox in fantasy so I been watching. W the dysfunction of that roster, he's been super strong. I'd love to see a Knicks rookie PG drop 26 in a night.
There are mad big name schools that don't get what Cal gets. Sh*t Kentucky pre-Cal didn't get these players. UNC is THEE school and have 0 pros.
UNC?
There actually are big name schools that get top recruits other than Kentucky, Texas being one of them. Duke is also starting to have some top prospects again. Kansas and UCLA as well.
Mecca wrote:HEZI wrote:Mecca wrote:
I got Fox in fantasy so I been watching. W the dysfunction of that roster, he's been super strong. I'd love to see a Knicks rookie PG drop 26 in a night.
There are mad big name schools that don't get what Cal gets. Sh*t Kentucky pre-Cal didn't get these players. UNC is THEE school and have 0 pros.
UNC?
There actually are big name schools that get top recruits other than Kentucky, Texas being one of them. Duke is also starting to have some top prospects again. Kansas and UCLA as well.
UNC not a top school?
Kansas has a prestigious coach. Duke too.
UCLA is LA. Everyone wants to live in LA.
Players want to go into situations where they become the best pros or live the best life.
HEZI wrote:Mecca wrote:HEZI wrote:
UNC?
There actually are big name schools that get top recruits other than Kentucky, Texas being one of them. Duke is also starting to have some top prospects again. Kansas and UCLA as well.
UNC not a top school?
Kansas has a prestigious coach. Duke too.
UCLA is LA. Everyone wants to live in LA.
Players want to go into situations where they become the best pros or live the best life.
Ok then, I'm glad we got that established. It's not about X's and Os and coach Cal being some master head coach. Shyt, there are Duke fans who criticize coach K for his coaching because he hasn't exactly been putting his players in the best position to succeed either.
Mecca wrote:HEZI wrote:Mecca wrote:
UNC not a top school?
Kansas has a prestigious coach. Duke too.
UCLA is LA. Everyone wants to live in LA.
Players want to go into situations where they become the best pros or live the best life.
Ok then, I'm glad we got that established. It's not about X's and Os and coach Cal being some master head coach. Shyt, there are Duke fans who criticize coach K for his coaching because he hasn't exactly been putting his players in the best position to succeed either.
I'm saying Cal's biggest strength is how he preps pros. Coach is a bad Xs and Os coach which is why he would suck in the pros.
HEZI wrote:Mecca wrote:HEZI wrote:
Ok then, I'm glad we got that established. It's not about X's and Os and coach Cal being some master head coach. Shyt, there are Duke fans who criticize coach K for his coaching because he hasn't exactly been putting his players in the best position to succeed either.
I'm saying Cal's biggest strength is how he preps pros. Coach is a bad Xs and Os coach which is why he would suck in the pros.
But that's been my gripe about Cal. Sure he's great at preparing players for the pros by knowing how to deal with their personalities especially young freshman kids, I got no issue with that. He's more of a character builder that's really where his rep is but when it comes to actual coaching he's nothing special and has his flaws.
HEZI wrote:Mecca wrote:HEZI wrote:
Ok then, I'm glad we got that established. It's not about X's and Os and coach Cal being some master head coach. Shyt, there are Duke fans who criticize coach K for his coaching because he hasn't exactly been putting his players in the best position to succeed either.
I'm saying Cal's biggest strength is how he preps pros. Coach is a bad Xs and Os coach which is why he would suck in the pros.
But that's been my gripe about Cal. Sure he's great at preparing players for the pros by knowing how to deal with their personalities especially young freshman kids, I got no issue with that. He's more of a character builder that's really where his rep is but when it comes to actual coaching he's nothing special and has his flaws.
Knickstape1214 wrote:HEZI wrote:Mecca wrote:
I'm saying Cal's biggest strength is how he preps pros. Coach is a bad Xs and Os coach which is why he would suck in the pros.
But that's been my gripe about Cal. Sure he's great at preparing players for the pros by knowing how to deal with their personalities especially young freshman kids, I got no issue with that. He's more of a character builder that's really where his rep is but when it comes to actual coaching he's nothing special and has his flaws.
What bothers me with him labeling himself as basically THE guy to play for if you want to become a pro is, as you've already said, he's doing nothing more than just getting high recruits (who would do well anywhere) and getting them drafted. That's really it. The character builder I guess is true? Honestly, who knows.
IF he thought this through just a little bit better, he'd focus more on skill development. If he were to give every incoming freshman a list of things they need to work on, and dedicate ___ minutes at each practice for each player to work on their deficiencies, the team players better because they'd be more skilled, he'd be a better developmental coach, AND the guys could go higher in the draft.
I'd argue his actual coaching is subpar considering the talent level he's gotten...and his recruiting / vision is a little out of whack, considering every team of his that does poorly has no shooters. You'd think he learned by now...
