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honestly felt Klaue was more memorable than kilmonger
Shemy wrote:saw it last night thought it was pretty good, not entirely sure it cracks my top 5 of the MCU movies though
Winter Soldier, Civil War, Ragnarok, Avengers, Iron Man
Michael B Jordan certainly dont think hes as good as people are making his performance to be hes just like all the other one dimensional villains in the MCU universe..I saw one review say he was the best villain since joker in TDK
Dr. Detfink wrote:I thought Black Panther and Wonder Woman were amazing but for totally different reasons....
Wonder Woman is an amazing achievement because the costume doesn't make any sense, origin story, and previously this is the BEST the world had to offer before director Patty Jenkins:
That's about as good it's going to get for female superhero leads let me re-emphasize that Female Superhero MOVIE Leads NOT co-stars for the next 41 years. Wonder woman actually tailored for females. The story is about dishonesty. Everyone lies to Diana including her own mother!
It's about realizing that life is not an "objective based" reality.
People forget the FIRST tolerable Marvel movie was Blade (1998). There was the unreleased Fantastic Four film (1994) by Oley Sassone, Captain America (1990), and the Punisher with Dolph Lundgren.
Hmmmm..red, white, and awful.
People need to stop politicizing films, comic books, and everything NOT related to donating to the poor, treating your coworker better, etc. Just enjoy the entertainment value. Being angry, saying something else sucks, etc...not going to pay your bills, put your kids through college. If I was a betting man, none of these celebs going home to their posh homes are thinking about YOUR problems.
Handledatruth wrote:Shemy wrote:saw it last night thought it was pretty good, not entirely sure it cracks my top 5 of the MCU movies though
Winter Soldier, Civil War, Ragnarok, Avengers, Iron Man
Michael B Jordan certainly dont think hes as good as people are making his performance to be hes just like all the other one dimensional villains in the MCU universe..I saw one review say he was the best villain since joker in TDK
Ignoring the fact that your comment on Klaue contradicts your statement about 1 dimensional villians, it is a fact that the MCU suffers from not so interesting villains (I'll put aside Ragnarok since I did not get a chance to see it). Ultron ended up being anti-climatic, Hydra is corny, and its hard to pinpoint anything memorable about the villain in Civil War besides the unconvincing motivation behind him manipulating Bucky. So really, that leaves you with Loki as the most interesting villain in the MCU until Killmonger. Killmonger had depth(meaning they took the time to explain his strengths), an origin story, a motive that could be understood, and a like-able swag. Not sure what else you can ask for in a villain. Klaue had like-able swag and that is it. Really the draw to most MCU movies is to see the heroes in action and their interactions with throwaway villians. That was until Black Panther came along. Thus the comparison to TDK Joker. Of course Infinity Wars can change this convo if Thanos nails it.
Dr. Detfink wrote:
People forget the FIRST tolerable Marvel movie was Blade (1998). There was the unreleased Fantastic Four film (1994) by Oley Sassone, Captain America (1990), and the Punisher with Dolph Lundgren.
Shemy wrote:Dr. Detfink wrote:
People forget the FIRST tolerable Marvel movie was Blade (1998). There was the unreleased Fantastic Four film (1994) by Oley Sassone, Captain America (1990), and the Punisher with Dolph Lundgren.
one of my favorite CBMs of all time, it really doesnt get the love it should
"****, you outta your damn mind"
theres small talks of this getting rebooted, as much as I loved wesley in the role think hes too old and it should be given to someone else, always been a big michael jai white fan, as it falls under marvel/Disney would hope this gets put on netflix
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
Shemy wrote:Handledatruth wrote:Shemy wrote:saw it last night thought it was pretty good, not entirely sure it cracks my top 5 of the MCU movies though
Winter Soldier, Civil War, Ragnarok, Avengers, Iron Man
Michael B Jordan certainly dont think hes as good as people are making his performance to be hes just like all the other one dimensional villains in the MCU universe..I saw one review say he was the best villain since joker in TDK
Ignoring the fact that your comment on Klaue contradicts your statement about 1 dimensional villians, it is a fact that the MCU suffers from not so interesting villains (I'll put aside Ragnarok since I did not get a chance to see it). Ultron ended up being anti-climatic, Hydra is corny, and its hard to pinpoint anything memorable about the villain in Civil War besides the unconvincing motivation behind him manipulating Bucky. So really, that leaves you with Loki as the most interesting villain in the MCU until Killmonger. Killmonger had depth(meaning they took the time to explain his strengths), an origin story, a motive that could be understood, and a like-able swag. Not sure what else you can ask for in a villain. Klaue had like-able swag and that is it. Really the draw to most MCU movies is to see the heroes in action and their interactions with throwaway villians. That was until Black Panther came along. Thus the comparison to TDK Joker. Of course Infinity Wars can change this convo if Thanos nails it.
felt klaue was more memorable overall dont think he was nothing to write home about either maybe if he got more screen time
killmonger was nothing new we havent seen and just didnt do anything for me, highly trained warrior who feels hes being oppressed/held back, and has lost a loved one and is looking for revenge, only difference was that kill-monger was an american from oakland
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
dakomish23 wrote:Shemy wrote:Dr. Detfink wrote:
People forget the FIRST tolerable Marvel movie was Blade (1998). There was the unreleased Fantastic Four film (1994) by Oley Sassone, Captain America (1990), and the Punisher with Dolph Lundgren.
one of my favorite CBMs of all time, it really doesnt get the love it should
"****, you outta your damn mind"
theres small talks of this getting rebooted, as much as I loved wesley in the role think hes too old and it should be given to someone else, always been a big michael jai white fan, as it falls under marvel/Disney would hope this gets put on netflix
They should use him as a mentor type of role. A guy who’s been doing it for years in the shadows while the whole world has changed since Iron Man.
There was a comic of Strange vs Dracula.
TheBigBoss wrote:dakomish23 wrote:Shemy wrote:one of my favorite CBMs of all time, it really doesnt get the love it should
"****, you outta your damn mind"
theres small talks of this getting rebooted, as much as I loved wesley in the role think hes too old and it should be given to someone else, always been a big michael jai white fan, as it falls under marvel/Disney would hope this gets put on netflix
They should use him as a mentor type of role. A guy who’s been doing it for years in the shadows while the whole world has changed since Iron Man.
There was a comic of Strange vs Dracula.
They were talking about bringing Wesley back as Blade to do something centering around Blade's daughter. Im not sure what happened with that, but they should really consider bringing him back in the mentor capacity like you said.
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
Shemy wrote:saw it last night thought it was pretty good, not entirely sure it cracks my top 5 of the MCU movies though
Winter Soldier, Civil War, Ragnarok, Avengers, Iron Man
Michael B Jordan certainly dont think hes as good as people are making his performance to be hes just like all the other one dimensional villains in the MCU universe..I saw one review say he was the best villain since joker in TDK
dakomish23 wrote:This was a great scene. One of many. Can’t believe so many folks weren’t fans of AOU
RHODEY wrote:dakomish23 wrote:This was a great scene. One of many. Can’t believe so many folks weren’t fans of AOU
Ehh, To me it was like watching the Warriors play the Nets. No dramatic tension because you know they easily outgunned Ultron. Now Thanos ...thats another story.
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
Shemy wrote:Handledatruth wrote:Shemy wrote:saw it last night thought it was pretty good, not entirely sure it cracks my top 5 of the MCU movies though
Winter Soldier, Civil War, Ragnarok, Avengers, Iron Man
Michael B Jordan certainly dont think hes as good as people are making his performance to be hes just like all the other one dimensional villains in the MCU universe..I saw one review say he was the best villain since joker in TDK
Ignoring the fact that your comment on Klaue contradicts your statement about 1 dimensional villians, it is a fact that the MCU suffers from not so interesting villains (I'll put aside Ragnarok since I did not get a chance to see it). Ultron ended up being anti-climatic, Hydra is corny, and its hard to pinpoint anything memorable about the villain in Civil War besides the unconvincing motivation behind him manipulating Bucky. So really, that leaves you with Loki as the most interesting villain in the MCU until Killmonger. Killmonger had depth(meaning they took the time to explain his strengths), an origin story, a motive that could be understood, and a like-able swag. Not sure what else you can ask for in a villain. Klaue had like-able swag and that is it. Really the draw to most MCU movies is to see the heroes in action and their interactions with throwaway villians. That was until Black Panther came along. Thus the comparison to TDK Joker. Of course Infinity Wars can change this convo if Thanos nails it.
felt klaue was more memorable overall dont think he was nothing to write home about either maybe if he got more screen time
killmonger was nothing new we havent seen and just didnt do anything for me, highly trained warrior who feels hes being oppressed/held back, and has lost a loved one and is looking for revenge, only difference was that kill-monger was an american from oakland
PeoplesChamp wrote:Shemy wrote:Handledatruth wrote:Ignoring the fact that your comment on Klaue contradicts your statement about 1 dimensional villians, it is a fact that the MCU suffers from not so interesting villains (I'll put aside Ragnarok since I did not get a chance to see it). Ultron ended up being anti-climatic, Hydra is corny, and its hard to pinpoint anything memorable about the villain in Civil War besides the unconvincing motivation behind him manipulating Bucky. So really, that leaves you with Loki as the most interesting villain in the MCU until Killmonger. Killmonger had depth(meaning they took the time to explain his strengths), an origin story, a motive that could be understood, and a like-able swag. Not sure what else you can ask for in a villain. Klaue had like-able swag and that is it. Really the draw to most MCU movies is to see the heroes in action and their interactions with throwaway villians. That was until Black Panther came along. Thus the comparison to TDK Joker. Of course Infinity Wars can change this convo if Thanos nails it.
felt klaue was more memorable overall dont think he was nothing to write home about either maybe if he got more screen time
killmonger was nothing new we havent seen and just didnt do anything for me, highly trained warrior who feels hes being oppressed/held back, and has lost a loved one and is looking for revenge, only difference was that kill-monger was an american from oakland
You didn't feel his story, nothing wrong with that. But, it's probably tough for you to identify with it, anyway. (Yes, it's a Black Thing, you wouldn't understand) I know a few people who felt compelled to do some soul-searching after his performance.
prophet_of_rage wrote:PeoplesChamp wrote:Shemy wrote:felt klaue was more memorable overall dont think he was nothing to write home about either maybe if he got more screen time
killmonger was nothing new we havent seen and just didnt do anything for me, highly trained warrior who feels hes being oppressed/held back, and has lost a loved one and is looking for revenge, only difference was that kill-monger was an american from oakland
You didn't feel his story, nothing wrong with that. But, it's probably tough for you to identify with it, anyway. (Yes, it's a Black Thing, you wouldn't understand) I know a few people who felt compelled to do some soul-searching after his performance.
There was so much nuance in his performance. It was ally see the difference in his Oakland upbringing from the Wakandans and that rang true to the differences in dialect, mannerisms and values between continental Africans and African descendants in the diaspora. He was Wakandan by blood, but not by nature. The soul scene reunion with his father was beautiful. He had a rational motivation just misdirected. Hell, it was easy to see him as the hero of the film. And throughout it all he played it with a native intelligence that was overlooked and ignored by so many people.
prophet_of_rage wrote:PeoplesChamp wrote:Shemy wrote:felt klaue was more memorable overall dont think he was nothing to write home about either maybe if he got more screen time
killmonger was nothing new we havent seen and just didnt do anything for me, highly trained warrior who feels hes being oppressed/held back, and has lost a loved one and is looking for revenge, only difference was that kill-monger was an american from oakland
You didn't feel his story, nothing wrong with that. But, it's probably tough for you to identify with it, anyway. (Yes, it's a Black Thing, you wouldn't understand) I know a few people who felt compelled to do some soul-searching after his performance.
There was so much nuance in his performance. It was ally see the difference in his Oakland upbringing from the Wakandans and that rang true to the differences in dialect, mannerisms and values between continental Africans and African descendants in the diaspora. He was Wakandan by blood, but not by nature. The soul scene reunion with his father was beautiful. He had a rational motivation just misdirected. Hell, it was easy to see him as the hero of the film. And throughout it all he played it with a native intelligence that was overlooked and ignored by so many people.
