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Re: RE: Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:28 pm
by Jalen Bluntson
bringinhinkie wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:
bringinhinkie wrote:
14:45| sit-up var w/ hip adduction
14:50| straight leg raises w/ hip adduction
15:00| supine hollow variation w/ some hip flexion ..my preference here would be traditional hollow work with less hip flexion and the neck a bit more packed

Nothing that will hurt him .. not exactly the bread and butter of core work, but it is not of concern IMO.. only concern would be too much hip flexion in an individual that is already hip flexion dominant.. but nothing that will aggravate the knee directly..

it's tough to judge because i havent seen the rest of what he is given.. i would hope he is getting some form of legitimate hip extension (be it banded / bodyweight / an extreme example would be the reverse hyper)

was tough to tell what the very last guy was giving him at the end of the video .. i wouldn't classify it as core - looked like they were building up the cross pattern when he was on one leg, with the other leg in hip flexion and one arm overhead with the roller.. nothing bad here

overall what i see is, too many cooks in the kitchen.. you got coker who is attempting to blast traditional hypertrophy (with no attention to detail).. you got the guy in the middle of the video giving some core work - nothing bad but again there is better - and then you have the guy at the end giving stuff that borderlines on "too cute" ..

my issue is, there is just so much basic basic stuff, that he isn;t being given.. so many basic concepts not being implemented.. and the attention to detail/execution isn't there.. all he needs is one good trainer that "gets it"..

there are plenty of guys in NYC and jersey that fit this bill.. but at the same time, there are even more trainers that are out there, considered legit, that don't fit the bill.. so it is hard to blame KP.. because there is no way for him to know, until he gets the real deal, then the light-bulb goes off

strength and conditioning is like modern-day karate.. it is an extremely watered down profession


You need to stalk KP!!! We can't have him training and rehabbing wrong!! Get out there and hide in some bushes!! Stalk his gym. His home. His job!! Get it done!!!


lmao - naaa not my style.. not even my style to post that video.. and it has received opposition (if you saw my reddit post) .. but it's all good - everyone will have "their professional opinion"

i just felt the need to call bullsh*t - especially when a young star who has worked his whole life to get where he is, is at (IMO) high risk .. i've watched ball long enough to know when someone is the real deal .. while still a bit raw (especially his shot selection), i honestly see a HoF-caliber talent.. and by talent i mean everything (skillset, mentality, work ethic)..

for all the sh*t people give his brothers, they have instilled lots of good stuff into KP .. they want him to succeed and honestly cannot be blamed for who trains him.. they cannot be expected to know who is legit, who isn't.. which is why you see him working with so many different individuals.. so it's not like they aren't trying..

like i said, strength and conditioning is like modern-day karate.. most of the instructors/practices are bleh, but at the same time you still have guys like wonderboy thompson / GSP out there utilizing legitimate karate concepts on an elite level (obviously mixed in with MT/BJJ/wrestling/traditinoal boxing/etc)

if he goes down again, i have no doubt he will find someone legit to work with.. and even if he does suffer the worst (a blown acl), it is STILL recoverable even beyond his current capacity.. because like i have alluded to, his current capacity is operating at a fraction of its potential


Just do it! :o

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:08 pm
by fatalogic
Hopefully the FO will make correcting his movement patterns a major focus of his training this year. If they don’t see improvement they should keep an eye on his value in the market.

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:01 pm
by waya
We need Delvec to pass along the message.

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:01 pm
by Fat Kat
Justin Bieber has taken another turn down the low road by getting into bed with shady celebrity diet doctor Carlon Colker. Bieber has been hyping Colker’s latest “miracle” supplement MYO-X, to his 59 million Twitter fans.
In a tweet today (Jan 7.) Bieber wrote: “Myo-x supplement helped me with my workouts thanks Carlon Colker.”


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Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:11 pm
by Knicksfan20
waya wrote:We need Delvec to pass along the message.


Can we just make an "Attention Steve Mills and Scott Perry" Thread and put the video as the first post? Then fill the topic with what we all want them to do and then boom...RealGM Knicks message board saves the Knicks and we help the Knicks win 7 or 8 championships in a row. Lets do it.

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:19 pm
by GONYK
Fat Kat wrote:Justin Bieber has taken another turn down the low road by getting into bed with shady celebrity diet doctor Carlon Colker. Bieber has been hyping Colker’s latest “miracle” supplement MYO-X, to his 59 million Twitter fans.
In a tweet today (Jan 7.) Bieber wrote: “Myo-x supplement helped me with my workouts thanks Carlon Colker.”


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That's not Bieber :lol:

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:50 pm
by Fat Kat
GONYK wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:Justin Bieber has taken another turn down the low road by getting into bed with shady celebrity diet doctor Carlon Colker. Bieber has been hyping Colker’s latest “miracle” supplement MYO-X, to his 59 million Twitter fans.
In a tweet today (Jan 7.) Bieber wrote: “Myo-x supplement helped me with my workouts thanks Carlon Colker.”


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That's not Bieber :lol:


:lol:

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:37 pm
by thebuzzardman

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:38 pm
by Jalen Bluntson
Fat Kat wrote:Justin Bieber has taken another turn down the low road by getting into bed with shady celebrity diet doctor Carlon Colker. Bieber has been hyping Colker’s latest “miracle” supplement MYO-X, to his 59 million Twitter fans.
In a tweet today (Jan 7.) Bieber wrote: “Myo-x supplement helped me with my workouts thanks Carlon Colker.”


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Isn't that Jack white?

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:50 pm
by Jalen Bluntson
thebuzzardman wrote:http://gawker.com/5113688/meet-mercury-poisoned-jeremy-pivens-fishy-celebrity-doctor


This guy? THIS FUQQING GUY is KPs trainer? WTF?

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:57 pm
by Fat Kat
Read on Twitter

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:44 pm
by waya
Fat Kat wrote:
Read on Twitter

I think I tested positive for HGH just looking at this dude

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:09 pm
by MP4LIFE
Fat Kat wrote:
Read on Twitter


Porzingis getting suspended for steroids is pretty much confirmed now.

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:18 pm
by dakomish23
Fat Kat wrote:
Read on Twitter


When did Stanley Tucci and Vin Diesel have a child?

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:53 pm
by thebuzzardman
Fat Kat wrote:
Read on Twitter


Celebrity Mook

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:19 pm
by Clyde_Style
Is this a joke?

KP is training with a meathead supplement scammer?

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:22 pm
by GEOLINK
Fat Kat wrote:
Read on Twitter

:nonono:

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:51 pm
by Dr. Detfink
I can only hope KP is regularly injected with PEDs so he comes to Knicks camp looking like Brock Lesner. That way, I don't have to read all the naysayers, "He didn't bulk up!" Reality is, you do NOT bulk up fast when you are that tall. Steady increments. Otherwise the injuries just get worse.

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:23 pm
by thebuzzardman
Clyde_Style wrote:Is this a joke?

KP is training with a meathead supplement scammer?



Unfortunately, no.

Everyone talks about how smart, talented and hardworking KP is.

I'm starting to question that first attribute, if this is the kind of guy he thinks it's a good idea to train with.

Re: Official KP ACL Rehabilitation Tracking Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:53 pm
by Clyde_Style
thebuzzardman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Is this a joke?

KP is training with a meathead supplement scammer?



Unfortunately, no.

Everyone talks about how smart, talented and hardworking KP is.

I'm starting to question that first attribute, if this is the kind of guy he thinks it's a good idea to train with.


KP can go fck himself then. I hope they trade him. What a bleeping idiot

P.S. And KP has never exhibited a high hoops IQ anyway. He's fairly articulate, but growing up multi-lingual and being able to address the media does not make you a sharpie by default. After three seasons, KP's passing skills didn't evolve which is what I was looking for as sign of mental development on the court. And it never happened. He is pretty much an ISO player.

I've been a big fan of Frank from the beginning in a way I've never been of KP. But this kind of self-regulation with his rehab is now officially ridiculous in my estimation if he really is training with this moron. Frank seems to understand where to go and whom to train with, but KP is looking like a D.I.Y. dummy now.

I hope this guy is not training him so I can revise my opinion, but if he really is working out with this fool then KP is truly an idiot.