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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Knicks | Bucks PG:
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:08 pm
by GONYK
vallen wrote:GONYK wrote:K P 6 wrote: No one is defending the fact he sucks on offense right now. However he has impact on the court without much offense. So add the offense and we have a player.
People talk about Frank like he can't improve. The player he is now is who he will always be.
the NCAA is littered with 19 year olds who wont make it, and scarce in 19 year olds who do. I think he can improve too, but how much realistically ? im just hoping for a decent role player while other have their expectation so high it really ends up hijacking every single thread.
the only way you can know my frustrations is if you woke up and saw 10 threads about how great Lance Thomas is. the hype for a role player is beyond insane. obviously people can have an idea of what a player will and wont become or there would be no scouts or mock drafts. its not like were watching him blindly. every once in a while there are signs (flashes) he can be an NBA player. none of those signs say superstar.
If superstar is the standard you are holding on to, then yes, it is very likely that Frank will disappoint.
Going just by the stats though, Frank is already a top 5 on ball defender in the league in PnR situations. He has a solid foundation as a shooter, and plays with intelligence, if not aggression.
I don't think it is reasonable to think that with more experience, strength training, and development that he won't improve on his already advanced defense and get his offense to a consistent level of production.
19 year olds in the NCAA also improve all the time, and Frank has already proven himself at higher levels of play than the NCAA.
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:32 pm
by HarthorneWingo
BKlutch wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:BKlutch wrote:How about creating an all Fugly team... players who do things, but everything they do is F ugly.
First two drafted on the team: Lance, Mudiay
Troy Williams, second team
This could be the FAF league: Fugly As Fuqq
Maybe we can bring this guy out of retirement or make him our next HC?
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:41 pm
by BKlutch
HarthorneWingo wrote:BKlutch wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Troy Williams, second team
This could be the FAF league: Fugly As Fuqq
Maybe we can bring this guy out of retirement or make him our next HC?
He's good, but we also need a big:
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:45 pm
by HarthorneWingo
BKlutch wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:BKlutch wrote:This could be the FAF league: Fugly As Fuqq
Maybe we can bring this guy out of retirement or make him our next HC?
He's good, but we also need a big:
Woah. Who the fck is that? He looks like MVP material.
How about this guy?
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:57 pm
by BKlutch
HarthorneWingo wrote:BKlutch wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Maybe we can bring this guy out of retirement or make him our next HC?
He's good, but we also need a big:
Woah. Who the fck is that? He looks like MVP material.
How about this guy?
He's currently in the NBA - he is the same height as KP - I think of him as KP from the Bizarro World - his name is Boban Marjonovic.
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:00 pm
by Jalen Bluntson
BKlutch wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:BKlutch wrote:He's good, but we also need a big:
Woah. Who the fck is that? He looks like MVP material.
How about this guy?
He's currently in the NBA - he is the same height as KP - I think of him as KP from the Bizarro World - his name is Boban Marjonovic.
Ugly HOF right here.
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:01 pm
by HarthorneWingo
BKlutch wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:BKlutch wrote:He's good, but we also need a big:
Woah. Who the fck is that? He looks like MVP material.
How about this guy?
He's currently in the NBA - he is the same height as KP - I think of him as KP from the Bizarro World - his name is Boban Marjonovic.
Poor guy. At least he has some money in his pocket. Maybe he can do something about them ears. Holy shyt.
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:04 pm
by knuckles862
I didn’t want us to draft frank from the beginning. However, we have a lot of improvements that need to be done outside of him so I don’t mind waiting for him to develop. If he can because a legit starter/ better than thj then I will be satisfied.
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:06 pm
by BKlutch
HarthorneWingo wrote:BKlutch wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Woah. Who the fck is that? He looks like MVP material.
How about this guy?
He's currently in the NBA - he is the same height as KP - I think of him as KP from the Bizarro World - his name is Boban Marjonovic.
Poor guy. At least he has some money in his pocket. Maybe he can do something about them ears. Holy shyt.
His body is like KP +50%, he's around 290 lbs. In case you ever wonder what KP would look like with a much bigger frame and bulked up, this is what he'd look like. Oh, yeah, he is not fast. Running up and down the court on a few quick plays seems to wear him out, but he plays better in the half court.
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:10 pm
by Jalen Bluntson
BKlutch wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:BKlutch wrote:This could be the FAF league: Fugly As Fuqq
Maybe we can bring this guy out of retirement or make him our next HC?
He's good, but we also need a big:
Dude is a model for gargoyle statues!!
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:14 pm
by BKlutch
Are We Ther Yet wrote:BKlutch wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Maybe we can bring this guy out of retirement or make him our next HC?
He's good, but we also need a big:
Dude is a model for gargoyle statues!!
Doesn't he look like he was created from a gargoyle statue? Watching him play is even more amazing. I guess with his name Boban people must call him Bob, right? Or maybe Hephaestus.
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:17 pm
by Besart19
We have to trade Timmy, Mudiay and Chi 2nd for a real talent. Tobias, Batum, Middelton, Jabari or Randle.
Ntilikina / Burke / Baker
Middleton / Lee / Dotson
Doncic / Hezonja / Lance
KP / Williams / Beasley
Kanter / O'Quinn / Noah
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:18 pm
by BKlutch
Besart19 wrote:We have to trade Timmy, Mudiay and Chi 2nd for a real talent. Tobias, Batum, Middelton, Jabari or Randle.
Ntilikina / Burke / Baker
Middleton / Lee / Dotson
Doncic / Hezonja / Lance
KP / Williams / Beasley
Kanter / O'Quinn / Noah
I'd make that trade.
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:19 pm
by El Poochio
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:22 pm
by BKlutch
Hr looks a lot better from that angle, when you can't see his face.
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:44 pm
by MP4LIFE
mpharris36 wrote:Red Vines wrote:Mudiay played decent in the 2nd half but I knew he wasn't going to lead us to a W, he was just trying not to embarrass himself.
Frank is Frank right now until he has the 90 days this summer to turn into Giannis.
Burke plays at such random times and he was focused on getting guys shots. Appears his shooting wrist is still hurt. Overall he looks like a guy who knows he's not starting no matter what he does and that's too bad, really got the shaft this year after sacrificing and playing well.
knocks both mudiay and frank and makes excuses for burke...who would have guessed it.
You should know this poster by now. Kind of weird and lame to stake your posing reputation on a bust PG.
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:55 pm
by Jalen Bluntson
MP4LIFE wrote:mpharris36 wrote:Red Vines wrote:Mudiay played decent in the 2nd half but I knew he wasn't going to lead us to a W, he was just trying not to embarrass himself.
Frank is Frank right now until he has the 90 days this summer to turn into Giannis.
Burke plays at such random times and he was focused on getting guys shots. Appears his shooting wrist is still hurt. Overall he looks like a guy who knows he's not starting no matter what he does and that's too bad, really got the shaft this year after sacrificing and playing well.
knocks both mudiay and frank and makes excuses for burke...who would have guessed it.
You should know this poster by now. Kind of weird and lame to stake your posing reputation on a bust PG.
He's ride or die with Burke. I kind of admire it...in a sad sort of way.
Re: Knicks | Bucks PG: "Where the post game at" Edition of the PG
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:15 pm
by Dr. Detfink
This game can be equated right down to the end of the 3rd quarter. Up until the end of the 3rd, the NY Knicks were pretty much exchanging shots with the Bucks, something the Bucks are totally fine with.
Why?
Bucks KNOW they have more talent than the Knicks. They're just pacing themselves until the 4th.
Tim Hardaway Jr hits a 3-pointer and ties the game as the buzzer sounds. Tim slow walks like Reservoir Dogs opening. Problem is, he hasn't accomplished anything. There's one more quarter.
In THAT 4th quarter, the Bucks separate the men from the boys...they're up by 10 with less than 4 min and the Knicks aren't tightening up their D. They're STILL exchanging shots.
Surprise, Knicks lose (not).
Re: RE: Re: Knicks | Bucks PG:
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:51 pm
by thebuzzardman
vallen wrote:GONYK wrote:K P 6 wrote: No one is defending the fact he sucks on offense right now. However he has impact on the court without much offense. So add the offense and we have a player.
People talk about Frank like he can't improve. The player he is now is who he will always be.
the NCAA is littered with 19 year olds who wont make it, and scarce in 19 year olds who do. I think he can improve too, but how much realistically ? im just hoping for a decent role player while other have their expectation so high it really ends up hijacking every single thread.
the only way you can know my frustrations is if you woke up and saw 10 threads about how great Lance Thomas is. the hype for a role player is beyond insane. obviously people can have an idea of what a player will and wont become or there would be no scouts or mock drafts. its not like were watching him blindly. every once in a while there are signs (flashes) he can be an NBA player. none of those signs say superstar.
Who even says he's going to be a superstar? Most of the discussions are how it's to early to throw him under the bus and that he'll be a good defender at guard (with disagreement about PG vs SG) and mostly people are pegging like Doc Rivers/George Hill like numbers. I mean, there are the odd and infrequent "He'll be Kawahi or JRue" posts, but mostly I see "patience, he'll be a good glue guy"
You know, mixed in with the sea of posts about how much he's complete trash.
Re: RE: Re: Knicks | Bucks PG:
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:55 pm
by F N 11
thebuzzardman wrote:vallen wrote:GONYK wrote:People talk about Frank like he can't improve. The player he is now is who he will always be.
the NCAA is littered with 19 year olds who wont make it, and scarce in 19 year olds who do. I think he can improve too, but how much realistically ? im just hoping for a decent role player while other have their expectation so high it really ends up hijacking every single thread.
the only way you can know my frustrations is if you woke up and saw 10 threads about how great Lance Thomas is. the hype for a role player is beyond insane. obviously people can have an idea of what a player will and wont become or there would be no scouts or mock drafts. its not like were watching him blindly. every once in a while there are signs (flashes) he can be an NBA player. none of those signs say superstar.
Who even says he's going to be a superstar? Most of the discussions are how it's to early to throw him under the bus and that he'll be a good defender at guard (with disagreement about PG vs SG) and mostly people are pegging like Doc Rivers/George Hill like numbers. I mean, there are the odd and infrequent "He'll be Kawahi or JRue" posts, but mostly I see "patience, he'll be a good glue guy"
You know, mixed in with the sea of posts about how much he's complete trash.
At least we know he has a positive impact on a losing team. So he will be very important to a winning one.
