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Re: Knicks | Mavs PG: Tank Championship — EPIC Edition 

Post#241 » by vallen » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:01 am

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vallen wrote:i love the jeff defense too. waaaah his lineups suck. like he had curry, green, and thompson on the bench. there werent any difference makers between rotations. everyone on this squad has their limitations. very few 2 way players.


i don't care to see beasley black hole for 33 minutes...sue me



fair enough, sub in your favorite scrub and youll get the same results. blame the FO.
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Post#242 » by mpharris36 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:01 am

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Mecca wrote:Why isn't Burke starting still???? Mudiay is a quality backup. No more.

mudiay went out lookin like steph curry in the first half..... then looked like ronnie brewer in the second :lol:


Typical Mudiay as always. Dude is just way too inconsistent to be a starter. Just give Trey 5 games. I don't get why he got 15 minutes.


keep try where he is I don't need anymore scares. He scores a ton in short period of times. He doesn't defend but thats better than Mudiay who usually can't score and can't defend. At this point I just want to lose out. We should be changing nothing right now :lol:
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Post#243 » by mpharris36 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:02 am

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vallen wrote:i love the jeff defense too. waaaah his lineups suck. like he had curry, green, and thompson on the bench. there werent any difference makers between rotations. everyone on this squad has their limitations. very few 2 way players.


i don't care to see beasley black hole for 33 minutes...sue me



fair enough, sub in your favorite scrub and youll get the same results. blame the FO.


troy williams game even though he isn't anything special is still much more enjoyable to watch.
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Post#244 » by Mecca » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:02 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:mudiay went out lookin like steph curry in the first half..... then looked like ronnie brewer in the second :lol:


Typical Mudiay as always. Dude is just way too inconsistent to be a starter. Just give Trey 5 games. I don't get why he got 15 minutes.


keep try where he is I don't need anymore scares. He scores a ton in short period of times. He doesn't defend but thats better than Mudiay who usually can't score and can't defend. At this point I just want to lose out. We should be changing nothing right now :lol:


Dame Lillard doesn't defend either. Burke isn't Rose on D, either so lets stop acting like he doesn't at least try on D.
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Post#245 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:04 am

Mecca wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Mecca wrote:Why isn't Burke starting still???? Mudiay is a quality backup. No more.

mudiay went out lookin like steph curry in the first half..... then looked like ronnie brewer in the second :lol:


Typical Mudiay as always. Dude is just way too inconsistent to be a starter. Just give Trey 5 games. I don't get why he got 15 minutes.

cause jeff is a dumb ass. that's the only explanation i have.
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Post#246 » by HEZI » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:04 am

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vallen wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
i don't care to see beasley black hole for 33 minutes...sue me



fair enough, sub in your favorite scrub and youll get the same results. blame the FO.


troy williams game even though he isn't anything special is still much more enjoyable to watch.


For sure but Troy is more of a 3. Our 4 rotation is Beasley or Lance Thomas, unless you prefer Hicks who is also trash, we really have nothing going for us. Like he said, pick your scrub
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Post#247 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:05 am

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2010 wrote:And just like that, the Trae vs. Sexton war was officially begun.

:lol:

sh*t is gonna be like DSJ vs frank all over again :lol:



Hopefully this time one of them ends up being a good player :lol:
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Post#248 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:06 am

Mecca wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Mecca wrote:
Typical Mudiay as always. Dude is just way too inconsistent to be a starter. Just give Trey 5 games. I don't get why he got 15 minutes.


keep try where he is I don't need anymore scares. He scores a ton in short period of times. He doesn't defend but thats better than Mudiay who usually can't score and can't defend. At this point I just want to lose out. We should be changing nothing right now :lol:


Dame Lillard doesn't defend either. Burke isn't Rose on D, either so lets stop acting like he doesn't at least try on D.

knicks low key might have a gem in burke but we'll never know cause we will never give him the opportunity.
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Post#249 » by Mecca » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:07 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
2010 wrote:And just like that, the Trae vs. Sexton war was officially begun.

:lol:

sh*t is gonna be like DSJ vs frank all over again :lol:


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Post#250 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:09 am

Mecca wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
2010 wrote:And just like that, the Trae vs. Sexton war was officially begun.

:lol:

sh*t is gonna be like DSJ vs frank all over again :lol:


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boy if you dont get yo student government association ass outta here :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#251 » by mpharris36 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:10 am

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mpharris36 wrote:
Mecca wrote:
Typical Mudiay as always. Dude is just way too inconsistent to be a starter. Just give Trey 5 games. I don't get why he got 15 minutes.


keep try where he is I don't need anymore scares. He scores a ton in short period of times. He doesn't defend but thats better than Mudiay who usually can't score and can't defend. At this point I just want to lose out. We should be changing nothing right now :lol:


Dame Lillard doesn't defend either. Burke isn't Rose on D, either so lets stop acting like he doesn't at least try on D.


the teams exposed him on switches in that entire 4th qtr. And lillard has gotten significantly better on defense this year. He's not good on defense but he isn't a target for the opposition. carlisle is a great coach he was going at Beasley and Trey down the stretch almost every possession. Trying to get switches and mismatches and they were scoring at will even when trey was dropping buckets.

He played 15 minutes...he scores a great amount but he doesn't defend and doesn't pass. And Rose barely could even get a job in the NBA because of his sucky defense and black hole tendencies on offense so that isn't a great way to prop up trey.

The issues are there. He's not the answer but he pretty damn exciting scoring for himself. He can shoot it thats for sure.
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Post#252 » by Mecca » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:11 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
Mecca wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:sh*t is gonna be like DSJ vs frank all over again :lol:


ummmm

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boy if you dont get yo student government association ass outta here :lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol:

After Kentucky takes Ayton and Virginia out in the next 2 weeks, y'all will be all over Student Government Association!!!

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Post#253 » by Mecca » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:13 am

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Mecca wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
keep try where he is I don't need anymore scares. He scores a ton in short period of times. He doesn't defend but thats better than Mudiay who usually can't score and can't defend. At this point I just want to lose out. We should be changing nothing right now :lol:


Dame Lillard doesn't defend either. Burke isn't Rose on D, either so lets stop acting like he doesn't at least try on D.


the teams exposed him on switches in that entire 4th qtr. And lillard has gotten significantly better on defense this year. He's not good on defense but he isn't a target for the opposition. carlisle is a great coach he was going at Beasley and Trey down the stretch almost every possession. Trying to get switches and mismatches and they were scoring at will even when trey was dropping buckets.

He played 15 minutes...he scores a great amount but he doesn't defend and doesn't pass. And Rose barely could even get a job in the NBA because of his sucky defense and black hole tendencies on offense so that isn't a great way to prop up trey.

The issues are there. He's not the answer but he pretty damn exciting scoring for himself. He can shoot it thats for sure.


Kemba is what 5'11? And he's shown to be a + defender. Maybe w better coaching, he'd be a better defender as energy isn't the issue. I rather play him than Mudiay.

I want SGA in the draft as he's a 6'6 PG, but I'd like to see what Trey can do starting for a few games.
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Post#254 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:15 am

Mecca wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Mecca wrote:
ummmm

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boy if you dont get yo student government association ass outta here :lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol:

After Kentucky takes Ayton and Virginia out in the next 2 weeks, y'all will be all over Student Government Association!!!

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i like SGA and i'll take him over trae young. but my first choice is sexton
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Post#255 » by Mecca » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:17 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
Mecca wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:boy if you dont get yo student government association ass outta here :lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol:

After Kentucky takes Ayton and Virginia out in the next 2 weeks, y'all will be all over Student Government Association!!!

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i like SGA and i'll take him over trae young. but my first choice is sexton
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If Sexton can show me he's a PG and not a scorer I'd be down, but I haven't seen vision.
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Post#256 » by dakomish23 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:18 am

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2010 wrote:Lost in the sauce was the fact that Courtney Lee called teammates out in the video room then proceeded to be a complete zero in the very next game. Dude was held scoreless and only took 1 shot along with porous defense.

Should have been moved in the offseason once we traded Melo.

But nah.

We kept and even added more vets.


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Post#257 » by mpharris36 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:18 am

Mecca wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Mecca wrote:
Dame Lillard doesn't defend either. Burke isn't Rose on D, either so lets stop acting like he doesn't at least try on D.


the teams exposed him on switches in that entire 4th qtr. And lillard has gotten significantly better on defense this year. He's not good on defense but he isn't a target for the opposition. carlisle is a great coach he was going at Beasley and Trey down the stretch almost every possession. Trying to get switches and mismatches and they were scoring at will even when trey was dropping buckets.

He played 15 minutes...he scores a great amount but he doesn't defend and doesn't pass. And Rose barely could even get a job in the NBA because of his sucky defense and black hole tendencies on offense so that isn't a great way to prop up trey.

The issues are there. He's not the answer but he pretty damn exciting scoring for himself. He can shoot it thats for sure.


Kemba is what 5'11? And he's shown to be a + defender. Maybe w better coaching, he'd be a better defender as energy isn't the issue. I rather play him than Mudiay.

I want SGA in the draft as he's a 6'6 PG, but I'd like to see what Trey can do starting for a few games.


i just don't see the point. Mudiay horribly inconsistent shooting is great for the tank. Nothing we do at this point will do anything. Just secure the best pick possible.

I like SGA....I prefer a few other prospects in our range but I don't think he would be a bad option either. But status quo is great. losses are more important then finding things we already know about our guys. Im not even mad frank played 16 mins at this point when he balled out in the 1st half. Jeff getting his hands on anyone wont do anything. Just lose that is goal #1 now with so few games left.
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Post#258 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:24 am

Mecca wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Mecca wrote:
:lol: :lol:

After Kentucky takes Ayton and Virginia out in the next 2 weeks, y'all will be all over Student Government Association!!!

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i like SGA and i'll take him over trae young. but my first choice is sexton
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If Sexton can show me he's a PG and not a scorer I'd be down, but I haven't seen vision.

he got vision but needs to improve there.he got that killer instinct tho as a scorer which makes him so intriguing. we need that badly.
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Post#259 » by dakomish23 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:27 am

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Post#260 » by Mecca » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:28 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
Mecca wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:i like SGA and i'll take him over trae young. but my first choice is sexton
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If Sexton can show me he's a PG and not a scorer I'd be down, but I haven't seen vision.

he got vision but needs to improve there.he got that killer instinct tho as a scorer which makes him so intriguing. we need that badly.


He does have that, but Idk if he has vision. I believe in his penetration, but 1/10 what would you rate his burst/athleticism?

If Wall/Westbrook are 10's
Fox was a 9
Mudiay/Payton were 8's

Where would you put him? I'd say like 8.5. I don't think he's Fox fast.
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