Lee defends Hornacek, blames Knicks’ woes on injuries

taj2133 · Post #1 » by **taj2133** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 2:48 pm

https://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/courtney-lee-defends-jeff-hornacek-blames-knicks-woes-on-injuries-1.17866996

Dr. Detfink · Post #2 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 2:59 pm

Two more seasons, and $25M remaining on a dead, unmovable contract.

Like Bill Simmons said, you sign someone like Lee, Hardaway Jr when you have at least 4 pieces to the puzzle in place to contend NOT add the 7th best player first, then hope a superstar comes to town.

Post #3 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 3:01 pm

such a millennial response...and yes I am a millennial

Handledatruth · Post #4 » by **Handledatruth** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 3:10 pm

To be honest, Jeff did more with less talent than the other tanking teams. As a matter of fact, if he were truly a bad coach we would be talking about Ayton right now and not Bridges. My only frustration with him is how he handled Frank N's minutes this year, but looking at that now, Frank has had some pretty sub par PG minutes (minus his defense). I'm sure most coaches would not play a rookie that is struggling to adjust to the speed and strength of NBA players.

F N 11 · Post #5 » by **F N 11** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 3:26 pm

I was just about to post it. I get his loyalty to Jeff. I get its not Jeffs fault for injuries and we did look good early on. However we started sucking after that early home schedule and never made any adjustments. We were 10 games plus under .500 before KP went down I think. It was a struggle. I get the players play but coaching matters. I see no defensive schemes or consistent offensive plays.

El Poochio · Post #6 » by **El Poochio** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 3:52 pm

Classic Courtney so deleeuded

Billy Goat · Post #7 » by **Billy Goat** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 3:59 pm

This roster at full strength is a lottery team.

Marty McFly · Post #8 » by **Marty McFly** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 5:22 pm

Billy Goat wrote:This roster at full strength is a lottery team.

we're a middle of the lotto team at half the strength. we'd be a bottom of the lotto team at worst.

Post #9 » by **King of Canada** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 5:27 pm

Courtney is a stand up guy, but STFU

Marty McFly · Post #10 » by **Marty McFly** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 5:32 pm

Dr. Detfink wrote:Two more seasons, and $25M remaining on a dead, unmovable contract.

Like Bill Simmons said, you sign someone like Lee, Hardaway Jr when you have at least 4 pieces to the puzzle in place to contend NOT add the 7th best player first, then hope a superstar comes to town.

it's not that assuring that simmons agrees with the talking points some of us have been making, but he's right.

HarthorneWingo · Post #11 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 5:45 pm

Marty McFly wrote:
Dr. Detfink wrote:Two more seasons, and $25M remaining on a dead, unmovable contract.

Like Bill Simmons said, you sign someone like Lee, Hardaway Jr when you have at least 4 pieces to the puzzle in place to contend NOT add the 7th best player first, then hope a superstar comes to town.

it's not that assuring that simmons agrees with the talking points some of us have been making, but he's right.

We signed Lee when we were trying to appease Melo and place veteran talent around him like he wanted.

Clyde_Style · Post #12 » by **Clyde_Style** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 6:01 pm

Dr. Detfink wrote:Two more seasons, and $25M remaining on a dead, unmovable contract.

Like Bill Simmons said, you sign someone like Lee, Hardaway Jr when you have at least 4 pieces to the puzzle in place to contend NOT add the 7th best player first, then hope a superstar comes to town.

If Perry is for real, he's basically riding this out for two more years without adding more dead weight contracts.

He could accomplish a lot on the rebuilding side in the meantime with drafts and pick-ups for building out the bench and maybe landing a legit starter on a cost controlled deal. If this is finally the GM who is able to pursue a legit rebuild, next year is basically a tank year.

If KP does come back strong and stays healthy, then the season after next could see the team leaving the lottery hunt and heading to the playoffs if they develop cheap players well these next 18 months.

But with Lee, Tim and Noah's contracts, we're talking two more seasons before the cap opens wide up unless Perry bogs us down again the next two years.

So if they sign someone like KOQ to a 2 year deal with a third year option for $12M a year it probably won't affect the franchise much if their sights are set on clearing the cap by 2020.

At this point, the big question is whether or not this is the way Perry will proceed and whether or not Mills will fall in line.

Clyde_Style · Post #13 » by **Clyde_Style** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 6:02 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:
Dr. Detfink wrote:Two more seasons, and $25M remaining on a dead, unmovable contract.

Like Bill Simmons said, you sign someone like Lee, Hardaway Jr when you have at least 4 pieces to the puzzle in place to contend NOT add the 7th best player first, then hope a superstar comes to town.

it's not that assuring that simmons agrees with the talking points some of us have been making, but he's right.

We signed Lee when we were trying to appease Melo and place veteran talent around him like he wanted.

I tried to appease Melo at Thanksgiving when I offered to butter his yams, but he went straight for the biscuits and gravy and then loaded up on a truckload of pie.

god shammgod · Post #14 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 6:03 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:
Dr. Detfink wrote:Two more seasons, and $25M remaining on a dead, unmovable contract.

Like Bill Simmons said, you sign someone like Lee, Hardaway Jr when you have at least 4 pieces to the puzzle in place to contend NOT add the 7th best player first, then hope a superstar comes to town.

it's not that assuring that simmons agrees with the talking points some of us have been making, but he's right.

We signed Lee when we were trying to appease Melo and place veteran talent around him like he wanted.

stop the nonsense crypt keeper....this is all phil's fault and you know it.

NYKHardKnock · Post #15 » by **NYKHardKnock** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 6:10 pm

So help me God if Jeff is on this team next year

NY 567 · Post #16 » by **NY 567** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 6:14 pm

**** lol at the money we spend on Lee and Hardaway. This franchise is doomed. In before Kanter gets the max.

thebuzzardman · Post #17 » by **thebuzzardman** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 6:27 pm

Courtney like Jefe because he gets starting SG/SF minutes at 34 mpg as a jag journeyman.

god shammgod · Post #18 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 6:30 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Courtney like Jefe because he gets starting SG/SF minutes at 34 mpg as a jag journeyman.

i don't think he even does like him. i think courtney likes living in ny and is worried about them shaking up the team. he had them promise him he wouldn't be traded during the past summer according to that guy he talks to on twitter.

Marty McFly · Post #19 » by **Marty McFly** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 6:49 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:
Dr. Detfink wrote:Two more seasons, and $25M remaining on a dead, unmovable contract.

Like Bill Simmons said, you sign someone like Lee, Hardaway Jr when you have at least 4 pieces to the puzzle in place to contend NOT add the 7th best player first, then hope a superstar comes to town.

it's not that assuring that simmons agrees with the talking points some of us have been making, but he's right.

We signed Lee when we were trying to appease Melo and place veteran talent around him like he wanted.

he was, but hardaway was not. a "new" FO should have turned a new leaf, but it was more of the same with tim.

Post #20 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Apr 5, 2018 6:51 pm

I like Lee but he should have been moved last offseason. Send him to a contender