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2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9?

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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#981 » by whocares1 » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:12 pm

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Yes! I've come to hate that term. Such a crowd pleaser but it's meaningless. Best player how? Now? Yesterday? Three years from now projected? And best at what? How are you making that decision?


Best player just means most talented prospect.


Most talented now? Yesterday? Three years from now projected? Okafor was more talented than Porzingis at draft time. Collin Sexton is probably the most physically talented player we could get right now. Are these your guys if you go BPA?

As far as I'm concerned, it's a platitude and not a strategic approach. Highest overall ceiling means something. Best current value means something.


I disagree with Okafor being considered more talented. He was more skilled offensively, but KP was by far more talented. It’s extremely vague, but bpa is always going to be opinion based, but it means the player with the highest ceiling. Not just “today”, the player that’s going to be the most effective in their prime. To me off eye test that’s Miles, Sexton, and Mikal in our current draft position.
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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#982 » by robillionaire » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:14 pm

I'm on the Trae Young bandwagon now. We need to swing for home runs. Any chance he falls to us
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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#983 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:22 pm

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Like I thought I never used advanced stats to diss him. ActuallY i never felt burke was ass, I just made fun of him being small I never really went much farther than that. Even when he became hot I left him alone. You mixing me up with MPH and them who alway went in on Burke all the time.

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y would i be mad though lol


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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#984 » by Nyk_Fatboy » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:23 pm

robillionaire wrote:I'm on the Trae Young bandwagon now. We need to swing for home runs. Any chance he falls to us


if were not winning the lottery or mikal isnt there idc who we pick. put the names in a hat and just pick one. :-?
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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#985 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:30 pm

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robillionaire wrote:I'm on the Trae Young bandwagon now. We need to swing for home runs. Any chance he falls to us


if were not winning the lottery or mikal isnt there idc who we pick. put the names in a hat and just pick one. :-?


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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#986 » by Nyk_Fatboy » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:33 pm

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robillionaire wrote:I'm on the Trae Young bandwagon now. We need to swing for home runs. Any chance he falls to us


if were not winning the lottery or mikal isnt there idc who we pick. put the names in a hat and just pick one. :-?


Musa?


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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#987 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:34 pm

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if were not winning the lottery or mikal isnt there idc who we pick. put the names in a hat and just pick one. :-?


Musa?


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what is this supposed to mean. :lol:
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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#988 » by Nyk_Fatboy » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:36 pm

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Musa?


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what is this supposed to mean. :lol:


no musa! lol

Edit* matter fact he can go in the hat too. more euro culture :o
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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#989 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:37 pm

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what is this supposed to mean. :lol:


no musa! lol



I mean Im with you. You said put a name in a hat and you dont care anymore. It could be worst...I damn sure dont want that mofo :lol:
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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#990 » by TheGreenArrow » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:44 pm

Could trading kp get us into the top 4 of this draft???
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Post#991 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:46 pm

Yo Fatboy I just saw your edit. Im good on Euro Culture if its that mofo. LOL. We better of with Lonnie than him. Shiiiiiiiiit.
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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#992 » by robillionaire » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:47 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:Could trading kp get us into the top 4 of this draft???


easily
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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#993 » by IllmaticHandler » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:47 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:Could trading kp get us into the top 4 of this draft???


Slim. The only one I can see truly biting is Dallas. I think the other teams would rather they picks.
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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#994 » by TheGreenArrow » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:50 pm

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TheGreenArrow wrote:Could trading kp get us into the top 4 of this draft???


easily


Would you do it??? I think i would.

Have 2 top 10 lottery picks in this draft
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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#995 » by robillionaire » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:53 pm

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TheGreenArrow wrote:Could trading kp get us into the top 4 of this draft???


easily


Would you do it??? I think i would.

Have 2 top 10 lottery picks in this draft


Nope. Would rather just keep KP since he's a young all-star and the odds of hitting a future all-star are much much less than 100%
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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#996 » by TheGreenArrow » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:59 pm

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easily


Would you do it??? I think i would.

Have 2 top 10 lottery picks in this draft


Nope. Would rather just keep KP since he's a young all-star and the odds of hitting a future all-star are much much less than 100%


Idk man no matter how much i try to fight it i just get this weird vibe about him truly wanting to be here. He still seems distant to me and others feel the same also....

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Im at least making that call. If we could get a top 3-4 pick for him and keep our lotto pick im doing it.

Pairing one of doncic or ayton or Bagley with either mpjr or bamba or mikal is greater than kp imo.
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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#997 » by fatalogic » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:10 pm

No player is untradable to me so I’d at least make some calls. Looking back on it Phil wasn’t wrong to look but the price should be suitably high. However the market for stars seems pretty depressed given what PG and Butler got in return. I think teams realize there is no point trading away your future for players when you don’t have a foundation to support them.
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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#998 » by robillionaire » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:27 pm

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Would you do it??? I think i would.

Have 2 top 10 lottery picks in this draft


Nope. Would rather just keep KP since he's a young all-star and the odds of hitting a future all-star are much much less than 100%


Idk man no matter how much i try to fight it i just get this weird vibe about him truly wanting to be here. He still seems distant to me and others feel the same also....

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Im at least making that call. If we could get a top 3-4 pick for him and keep our lotto pick im doing it.

Pairing one of doncic or ayton or Bagley with either mpjr or bamba or mikal is greater than kp imo.


It would take more than one first rounder. Also, nobody wants to be here. Whoever we draft won't want to be here either :lol:

Also your analysis is ignoring that we'd be pairing (mpjr, bamba, mikal) with kp. Assuming they're even there at 9 or 10.
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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#999 » by robillionaire » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:38 pm

I guess we get to use this every summer now.

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Re: 2017/18 Draft and College Thread Part 9 - also pick 9? 

Post#1000 » by DrCoach » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:53 pm

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N Y K wrote:Can we trade back for clippers picks? Cause I'd still take Sexton at nine. But if you can trade back, then at least one of those two should be available... If not both



Sexton could be the Mitchell of this draft



yeah i could see it. i think Donte DiVincenzo is closer to a mitchell type prospect but not as explosive


Donte reminds me of Tyler Johnson

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