2018 Offseason
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If you're convinced Mikal is going to Chicago or Cleveland, add Carter to the list of candidates.
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PorzinGAWD wrote:Not really a guarantee Mikal is off the board. Tankathon's Mock is based on need and Mikal is still there at 9. Orlando needs a PG, Bulls are in range for Porter Jr or Bagley who are both better prospects than Mikal, and Cleveland needs a Rim protector more than another Wing and they are in range for Carter. The Kings need a Center too and Bamba and Bagley are in their range.
Basically Mikal is there at 9, unless he looks like a superstar in workouts.
Couldn't agree more. People are letting their love of Mikal get in the way of realizing how deep this draft is. I would only be fearful of Chicago and if they end up picking 6 there will be better players for them to take at that slot. I can see a guy like Young be a workout phenom whereas I'm not sure how great Mikal's workouts will be. He's a team player who isn't super flashy one on one.
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hire blatt
sign super mario
if bridges or sexton isnt there, trade 9th for phx 15 and 17(draft simmons and musa) and hachimura with the 2nd rounder
rename the team to the European union
sign super mario
if bridges or sexton isnt there, trade 9th for phx 15 and 17(draft simmons and musa) and hachimura with the 2nd rounder
rename the team to the European union
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GONYK wrote:I think it's been fairly obvious that management wants to keep KOQ
Was our best C by far last year. All those early wins - most of them with KOQ on the floor to lose games if not KP at C.
We really don’t to pay big money to a C. Between KOQ & Kornet I think we’ll be fine. We have so many needs elsewhere.
Unless you can get a stud (strictly through the draft) then don’t waste resources this summer at C.
Spoiler:
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
#FreeJimmit
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dakomish23 wrote:GONYK wrote:I think it's been fairly obvious that management wants to keep KOQ
Was our best C by far last year. All those early wins - most of them with KOQ on the floor to lose games if not KP at C.
We really don’t to pay big money to a C. Between KOQ & Kornet I think we’ll be fine. We have so many needs elsewhere.
Unless you can get a stud (strictly through the draft) then don’t waste resources this summer at C.
pba in the draft might end up being carter
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This season was the easiest management wise season that you could get... they managed to fack it up.
1. You got a 7"3 that destroys teams in the half court and you gonna play fast pace? Instead of playing half court and make him better at dealing with double teams, you make him run up and down like he is Lebron? After 15 games his production dropped like a rock because he was exhausted, after 40 games he destroyed his knee.
2. Tank, develop the youth. They decided to go for the playoffs because they were dumb enough to not realize how easy was their schedule at start. I realize the coach got to look for himself, that's why Knicks FO needed to say to him, play the youth and we keep you, play the veterans and we fire you. They didn't... dude played the veterans and then after damage was done he was fired.
2. Trade Kanter. They didn't... they traded Willy that even if he didn't developed to a championship starting center, he would always had more trade value than Kanter, dude has the best footwork in the league. Noah that does EVERYTHING Kanter does and ends his contract just in THE RIGHT TIME, was alienated... Get assets for Kanter, play Noah and Willy until 2019 Free agency. How hard could've that been?
3. Trade Lee, you signed a SG for a big contract, how about play him at his position?
4. Draft a SF, sign wilson Chandler to a one year big contract.
5. With all the picks, with all the assets, with all the cap space, make a huge splash in 2019 FA and 2010 FA.
6. Win championship
Now i will have to watch Bulls get another superstar with a pick that even with the poor management could have been ours.
Can't wait for the Knicks to sign dumbass Kanter to a big ass contract and destroy our capspace for 2019\20.
Thank you Riley«s neo-bad boys Knicks for making me a fan of this **** franchise.
1. You got a 7"3 that destroys teams in the half court and you gonna play fast pace? Instead of playing half court and make him better at dealing with double teams, you make him run up and down like he is Lebron? After 15 games his production dropped like a rock because he was exhausted, after 40 games he destroyed his knee.
2. Tank, develop the youth. They decided to go for the playoffs because they were dumb enough to not realize how easy was their schedule at start. I realize the coach got to look for himself, that's why Knicks FO needed to say to him, play the youth and we keep you, play the veterans and we fire you. They didn't... dude played the veterans and then after damage was done he was fired.
2. Trade Kanter. They didn't... they traded Willy that even if he didn't developed to a championship starting center, he would always had more trade value than Kanter, dude has the best footwork in the league. Noah that does EVERYTHING Kanter does and ends his contract just in THE RIGHT TIME, was alienated... Get assets for Kanter, play Noah and Willy until 2019 Free agency. How hard could've that been?
3. Trade Lee, you signed a SG for a big contract, how about play him at his position?
4. Draft a SF, sign wilson Chandler to a one year big contract.
5. With all the picks, with all the assets, with all the cap space, make a huge splash in 2019 FA and 2010 FA.
6. Win championship
Now i will have to watch Bulls get another superstar with a pick that even with the poor management could have been ours.
Can't wait for the Knicks to sign dumbass Kanter to a big ass contract and destroy our capspace for 2019\20.
Thank you Riley«s neo-bad boys Knicks for making me a fan of this **** franchise.
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Newyorknick94 wrote:Chuck Everett wrote:Sexton. I have officially given up on Mudiay.
What about Burke/Frank?
None of them are safe bets. I've been advocating a move for Rozier and I'd immediately draft an athletic scoring point guard if no top SF was available.
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Frank Baker Jack
THJ Dotson Melton
Mikal LFT
Beas
KOQ Kornet
20 wins
THJ Dotson Melton
Mikal LFT
Beas
KOQ Kornet
20 wins
Spoiler:
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
#FreeJimmit
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Fat Kat wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:I think Miles has the versatility to play both forward positions.
He’s actually 6’5 - 6’6 with a 6’9 wingspan.
6'6 - 6'7 with a 6'11 wingspan.
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Damn, the offseason is already here? I bet PornHub is seeing a significant increase in clicks.
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Number one goal is to ensure we get a bottom 3 record, giving us a shot at much needed star wing (hopefully RJ Barrett).
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Chuck Everett wrote:Sexton. I have officially given up on Mudiay.
i like that avatar. i'm going to use that with the players i coach - i'm the defensive coach of the varsity team at the school where i teach. that's awesome.
RIP, magnumt '19
PG: M Smart/E Bledsoe/I Smith
SG: D Russell/C LeVert/L Stephenson
SF: H Barnes/T Horton Tucker/
PF: T Harris/C Boucher/B Griffin/
C: J Valanciunas/J McGee/
PG: M Smart/E Bledsoe/I Smith
SG: D Russell/C LeVert/L Stephenson
SF: H Barnes/T Horton Tucker/
PF: T Harris/C Boucher/B Griffin/
C: J Valanciunas/J McGee/
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Trade Courtney Lee for Aldrich and 2 2nd rounders. Then depending on if they want the cap space this offseason waive Aldrich or if they want it next season let his contract come off the book. positive for the Knicks is now have a tank worthy Center and the Knicks get some 2nd rounders for their effort.
Wolves do it because it will finally let them put Wiggins on the bench as their sixth man.
Wolves do it because it will finally let them put Wiggins on the bench as their sixth man.
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Hire Stackhouse.
Draft Night:
If Mikal is off the board...
Trade:
#9 (Colin Sexton/Trae Young/SGA) to the Clips for their two lotto picks and draft Miles Bridges and Dzanan Musa.
Draft Isaac Bonga in the second round and leave him in Europe for a year or two.
Trade:
Mudiay and Lee to Toronto for Norman Powell and a second to give Stack one of his guys. Lee’s contact is shorter but Powell could be a long term piece. He’s an athlete and he defends. I could see Uriji liking Mudiay’s potential and sending him to the G-League to get right a la Tim in Atlanta.
Trade:
Lance, Dot and a second (via Toronto trade) to OKC for Alexis Ajinca and Chieck Diallo.
Sign: Jessie Govan and Theo Pinson to two way deals.
Sign: XRM, Diamond Stone, George Niang, JP Macura to summer league deals and see who earns an invite to vet camp.
Sign Terrence Jones, Dwight Buycks and Sean Kilpatrick to vet minimum deals.
Sigh.
Trade: Joakim Noah and the rights to swap 2020 first round picks for Kenneth Faried and Tyler Lydon.
Buyout Faried so he could go play for a vet team.
Waive Ron Baker
Waive Isiah Hicks
Burke/Frank/Buycks
Tim/Powell/Kilpatrick
Musa/TWill/KP (healing)
Bridges/TJones/T.Lydon
Diallo/Kornet/Ajinca
Govan and Pinson to the G-League.
Bonga cooks cross seas.
Run, run, run. Play proud (man) and loud (talk on) defense, share the ball on offense, make the extra pass. Extra emphasis on conditioning. Wait on KP. Play him sparingly in maybe the last 15 to 20 games.
Win 21-29 games.
Prepare for Frankie’s ascension to full time starter and the return of KP.
Draft Night:
If Mikal is off the board...
Trade:
#9 (Colin Sexton/Trae Young/SGA) to the Clips for their two lotto picks and draft Miles Bridges and Dzanan Musa.
Draft Isaac Bonga in the second round and leave him in Europe for a year or two.
Trade:
Mudiay and Lee to Toronto for Norman Powell and a second to give Stack one of his guys. Lee’s contact is shorter but Powell could be a long term piece. He’s an athlete and he defends. I could see Uriji liking Mudiay’s potential and sending him to the G-League to get right a la Tim in Atlanta.
Trade:
Lance, Dot and a second (via Toronto trade) to OKC for Alexis Ajinca and Chieck Diallo.
Sign: Jessie Govan and Theo Pinson to two way deals.
Sign: XRM, Diamond Stone, George Niang, JP Macura to summer league deals and see who earns an invite to vet camp.
Sign Terrence Jones, Dwight Buycks and Sean Kilpatrick to vet minimum deals.
Sigh.
Trade: Joakim Noah and the rights to swap 2020 first round picks for Kenneth Faried and Tyler Lydon.
Buyout Faried so he could go play for a vet team.
Waive Ron Baker
Waive Isiah Hicks
Burke/Frank/Buycks
Tim/Powell/Kilpatrick
Musa/TWill/KP (healing)
Bridges/TJones/T.Lydon
Diallo/Kornet/Ajinca
Govan and Pinson to the G-League.
Bonga cooks cross seas.
Run, run, run. Play proud (man) and loud (talk on) defense, share the ball on offense, make the extra pass. Extra emphasis on conditioning. Wait on KP. Play him sparingly in maybe the last 15 to 20 games.
Win 21-29 games.
Prepare for Frankie’s ascension to full time starter and the return of KP.
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PorzinGAWD wrote:Trade Courtney Lee for Aldrich and 2 2nd rounders. Then depending on if they want the cap space this offseason waive Aldrich or if they want it next season let his contract come off the book. positive for the Knicks is now have a tank worthy Center and the Knicks get some 2nd rounders for their effort.
Wolves do it because it will finally let them put Wiggins on the bench as their sixth man.
Not sure if you're serious
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Anyway...
Coaching:
Hire Mark Jackson or a new face. No more recycling coaches that's been around the league. Give someone a shot that either been out for a while and may have a new perspective (Jackson, Stack or Blatt)
Draft board in order
1. Ayton
2. Jackson
3. Bagley
4. Bamba
5. Porter
6. SGA
I don't really know much about Doncic, I've never seen him play. Wanted Tre Young before, but we have Treverson. But I'm really high on SGA, I don't seeSexton being better than him. Anyone other than those mentioned is blah to me. Mikal is alright, I don't see stardom at all. Solid player tho and versatile.
Free agency:
If we don't get a big, PLEASE PAIR JULIUS RANDLE WITH KP. PLEASE!!!!!
Coaching:
Hire Mark Jackson or a new face. No more recycling coaches that's been around the league. Give someone a shot that either been out for a while and may have a new perspective (Jackson, Stack or Blatt)
Draft board in order
1. Ayton
2. Jackson
3. Bagley
4. Bamba
5. Porter
6. SGA
I don't really know much about Doncic, I've never seen him play. Wanted Tre Young before, but we have Treverson. But I'm really high on SGA, I don't seeSexton being better than him. Anyone other than those mentioned is blah to me. Mikal is alright, I don't see stardom at all. Solid player tho and versatile.
Free agency:
If we don't get a big, PLEASE PAIR JULIUS RANDLE WITH KP. PLEASE!!!!!
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Kinglee wrote:PorzinGAWD wrote:Trade Courtney Lee for Aldrich and 2 2nd rounders. Then depending on if they want the cap space this offseason waive Aldrich or if they want it next season let his contract come off the book. positive for the Knicks is now have a tank worthy Center and the Knicks get some 2nd rounders for their effort.
Wolves do it because it will finally let them put Wiggins on the bench as their sixth man.
Not sure if you're serious
For us to have near Max space for either 1 or 2 player in 2019 Lee is likely going to have to be waived. So its a cap room making deal that would help the Tank. If Lee was younger I would say he could get a 1st but Lee is 32.
Also by just having that money expire in 2019 instead of waiving Lee the knicks could spend 18 mil this year (if Kanter opts out) and still have 34 mil next year to go after a FA, the actual max they could go after Kawhi/Irving/Butler with. Like you saw how you later said "Please pair Randle with KP" in you next post? By trading Lee for Aldrich the knicks could do that move and still have money to then pair Randle and KP with Kawhi......
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PorzinGAWD wrote:Kinglee wrote:PorzinGAWD wrote:Trade Courtney Lee for Aldrich and 2 2nd rounders. Then depending on if they want the cap space this offseason waive Aldrich or if they want it next season let his contract come off the book. positive for the Knicks is now have a tank worthy Center and the Knicks get some 2nd rounders for their effort.
Wolves do it because it will finally let them put Wiggins on the bench as their sixth man.
Not sure if you're serious
For us to have near Max space for either 1 or 2 player in 2019 Lee is likely going to have to be waived. So its a cap room making deal that would help the Tank. If Lee was younger I would say he could get a 1st but Lee is 32.
Also by just having that money expire in 2019 instead of waiving Lee the knicks could spend 18 mil this year (if Kanter opts out) and still have 34 mil next year to go after a FA, the actual max they could go after Kawhi/Irving/Butler with. Like you saw how you later said "Please pair Randle with KP" in you next post? By trading Lee for Aldrich the knicks could do that move and still have money to then pair Randle and KP with Kawhi......
I wrote that to you because you mentioned Wiggins coming off the bench That was a ridiculous comment. But I agree with your overall point of view lol. Just found that part to be a little crazy
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Kinglee wrote:PorzinGAWD wrote:Kinglee wrote:
Not sure if you're serious
For us to have near Max space for either 1 or 2 player in 2019 Lee is likely going to have to be waived. So its a cap room making deal that would help the Tank. If Lee was younger I would say he could get a 1st but Lee is 32.
Also by just having that money expire in 2019 instead of waiving Lee the knicks could spend 18 mil this year (if Kanter opts out) and still have 34 mil next year to go after a FA, the actual max they could go after Kawhi/Irving/Butler with. Like you saw how you later said "Please pair Randle with KP" in you next post? By trading Lee for Aldrich the knicks could do that move and still have money to then pair Randle and KP with Kawhi......
I wrote that to you because you mentioned Wiggins coming off the bench That was a ridiculous comment. But I agree with your overall point of view lol. Just found that part to be a little crazy
ok I get it.
Like I look at him as JR with more potential.
They could still start Wiggin, but he's such a high volume chucker, they really need to have someone they could put in with Towns and Butler and can just shoot the open shot in order to keep him on a shorter leash. Wiggins off the bench could then shoot as much as he needs.
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PorzinGAWD wrote:Kinglee wrote:PorzinGAWD wrote:
For us to have near Max space for either 1 or 2 player in 2019 Lee is likely going to have to be waived. So its a cap room making deal that would help the Tank. If Lee was younger I would say he could get a 1st but Lee is 32.
Also by just having that money expire in 2019 instead of waiving Lee the knicks could spend 18 mil this year (if Kanter opts out) and still have 34 mil next year to go after a FA, the actual max they could go after Kawhi/Irving/Butler with. Like you saw how you later said "Please pair Randle with KP" in you next post? By trading Lee for Aldrich the knicks could do that move and still have money to then pair Randle and KP with Kawhi......
I wrote that to you because you mentioned Wiggins coming off the bench That was a ridiculous comment. But I agree with your overall point of view lol. Just found that part to be a little crazy
ok I get it.
Like I look at him as JR with more potential.
They could still start Wiggin, but he's such a high volume chucker, they really need to have someone they could put in with Towns and Butler and can just shoot the open shot in order to keep him on a shorter leash. Wiggins off the bench could then shoot as much as he needs.
Can bring a max player off the bench, especially when he can be an elite defender, along with a good offensive game. Wiggins is a good player.