Who do you want as coach?

[NBA Fan 1234]

Thoughts on blatt? I actually thought he got a raw deal in cleveland and lebron obviously controls all there.

My real concern would be about him being able to handle the NY media and not his ability as a coach.

i wanted him 2 years ago before we hired hornacek and still want him. i think he would be a great hire.

Same here. Never was a fan of Hornacek. He and Stackhouse are 1a/b for me.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Hornacek would still be here if that was the case...

Disagree. They were clearly not unified with the front office.

Nah that's what I was referring to... So it remains to be seen if it happens with the next coach. Give the guy assurance that developing players is the #1 priority and have these coaches stop coaching for their lives ala rambis.

They did that with Jeff. He had been informed in a public mission statement from the team. W/L aren't important. Player development. Uouth movement. Defense. BUT they also said they wouldn't interfere with Jeff. They trusted him and had room to work. He obviously failed. In a few areas. They fired him. Thr next coach needs to pay attention when the FO gives you the keys to the tank!!!

[whocares1]

Disagree. They were clearly not unified with the front office.

Nah that's what I was referring to... So it remains to be seen if it happens with the next coach. Give the guy assurance that developing players is the #1 priority and have these coaches stop coaching for their lives ala rambis.

They did that with Jeff. He had been informed in a public mission statement from the team. W/L aren't important. Player development. Uouth movement. Defense. BUT they also said they wouldn't interfere with Jeff. They trusted him and had room to work. He obviously failed. In a few areas. They fired him. Thr next coach needs to pay attention when the FO gives you the keys to the tank!!!

So when Jeff said starting Mudiay was a management decision, he lied?

[knicksanity]

If JVG is not on the list. I'm going with Fiz and Blatt. I really doubt Stack sorry but If he's going to accept the AHC I would love that! but what the point of having AHC job if you could land a HC job with Magic or Hornets

Fizz and his choice of AHC or Blatt's system and Woody connections to players

[Jalen Bluntson]

Nah that's what I was referring to... So it remains to be seen if it happens with the next coach. Give the guy assurance that developing players is the #1 priority and have these coaches stop coaching for their lives ala rambis.

They did that with Jeff. He had been informed in a public mission statement from the team. W/L aren't important. Player development. Uouth movement. Defense. BUT they also said they wouldn't interfere with Jeff. They trusted him and had room to work. He obviously failed. In a few areas. They fired him. Thr next coach needs to pay attention when the FO gives you the keys to the tank!!!

So when Jeff said starting Mudiay was a management decision, he lied?

Obviously they had to step in and tell him to stop chasing meaningless wins with vets. One of the reasons he's fired.

[3toheadmelo]

Thoughts on blatt? I actually thought he got a raw deal in cleveland and lebron obviously controls all there.

My real concern would be about him being able to handle the NY media and not his ability as a coach.

i wanted him 2 years ago before we hired hornacek and still want him. i think he would be a great hire.

Same here. Never was a fan of Hornacek. He and Stackhouse are 1a/b for me.

i would love for us to get stack too. him and blatt are my top choices. i guess i can settle for fiz as well but what happened with him and gasol is kinda a turn off for me. no thx to jackson and woodson

[NBA Fan 1234]

i wanted him 2 years ago before we hired hornacek and still want him. i think he would be a great hire.

Same here. Never was a fan of Hornacek. He and Stackhouse are 1a/b for me.

i would love for us to get stack too. him and blatt are my top choices. i guess i can settle for fiz as well but what happened with him and gasol is kinda a turn off for me. no thx to jackson and woodson

I'm hoping we interview Monty Williams, too. I doubt we interview Messina or Udoka, but interviewing Blatt, Stack, Monty, and Fizdale (10000% agreed on the Gasol point) are good for guys who actually matter. Always liked Monty.

[whocares1]

They did that with Jeff. He had been informed in a public mission statement from the team. W/L aren't important. Player development. Uouth movement. Defense. BUT they also said they wouldn't interfere with Jeff. They trusted him and had room to work. He obviously failed. In a few areas. They fired him. Thr next coach needs to pay attention when the FO gives you the keys to the tank!!!

So when Jeff said starting Mudiay was a management decision, he lied?

Obviously they had to step in and tell him to stop chasing meaningless wins with vets. One of the reasons he's fired.

So why didn’t they tell him earlier in the season?

[Clyde_Style]

Hornacek would still be here if that was the case...

Disagree. They were clearly not unified with the front office.

Nah that's what I was referring to... So it remains to be seen if it happens with the next coach. Give the guy assurance that developing players is the #1 priority and have these coaches stop coaching for their lives ala rambis.

Alright. Well, one thing is for sure: No healthy organization thrives by breathing down the neck of their head coach. You hope to hire someone on your wavelength and is down with your long-term building strategy, but at some point the coach may use the players you provide them in ways that dissatisfy you as the front office. That happened this season evidently and since Jeff wasn't even their choice, he kind of doomed himself.

[3toheadmelo]

Same here. Never was a fan of Hornacek. He and Stackhouse are 1a/b for me.

i would love for us to get stack too. him and blatt are my top choices. i guess i can settle for fiz as well but what happened with him and gasol is kinda a turn off for me. no thx to jackson and woodson

I'm hoping we interview Monty Williams, too. I doubt we interview Messina or Udoka, but interviewing Blatt, Stack, Monty, and Fizdale (10000% agreed on the Gasol point) are good for guys who actually matter. Always liked Monty.

i don't know why we aren't interviewing messina or udoka. i mean even charlotte is interviewing messina. messina would be just as good as stack or blatt IMO

i never really followed monty so i don't know how good of a coach he is, but i'll take your word that he would be a good hire as well.

[Jalen Bluntson]

So when Jeff said starting Mudiay was a management decision, he lied?

Obviously they had to step in and tell him to stop chasing meaningless wins with vets. One of the reasons he's fired.

So why didn’t they tell him earlier in the season?

Because they were letting him do his thing. Did you forget that part? Once KP went down the focus should have immdeiately shifted to kids. Jeff kept running Jack out there. Then Perry went on record that they expect to see more of the young guys and Jeff dragged his heels. In other words...the words I used before...they laid down what they expected and let him do his thing. He failed.

They stepped in and eventually fired him. They probably wanted him gone before the season ended. It's not hard to figure out.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Messina is being interviewed and not on our list? Smdh

[Adelheid]

Obviously they had to step in and tell him to stop chasing meaningless wins with vets. One of the reasons he's fired.

So why didn’t they tell him earlier in the season?

Because they were letting him do his thing. Did you forget that part? Once KP went down the focus should have immdeiately shifted to kids. Jeff kept running Jack out there. Then Perry went on record that they expect to see more of the young guys and Jeff dragged his heels. In other words...the words I used before...they laid down what they expected and let him do his thing. He failed.

They stepped in and eventually fired him. They probably wanted him gone before the season ended. It's not hard to figure out.

Stuff like that can be discussed close-doors. Why does Perry need to go to the media to say that I wonder.

[Jalen Bluntson]

So why didn’t they tell him earlier in the season?

Because they were letting him do his thing. Did you forget that part? Once KP went down the focus should have immdeiately shifted to kids. Jeff kept running Jack out there. Then Perry went on record that they expect to see more of the young guys and Jeff dragged his heels. In other words...the words I used before...they laid down what they expected and let him do his thing. He failed.

They stepped in and eventually fired him. They probably wanted him gone before the season ended. It's not hard to figure out.

Stuff like that can be discussed close-doors. Why does Perry need to go to the media to say that I wonder.

It probably was said. Then reiterated on the record. Jeff didn't listen. He's fired.

[whocares1]

Because they were letting him do his thing. Did you forget that part? Once KP went down the focus should have immdeiately shifted to kids. Jeff kept running Jack out there. Then Perry went on record that they expect to see more of the young guys and Jeff dragged his heels. In other words...the words I used before...they laid down what they expected and let him do his thing. He failed.

They stepped in and eventually fired him. They probably wanted him gone before the season ended. It's not hard to figure out.

Stuff like that can be discussed close-doors. Why does Perry need to go to the media to say that I wonder.

It probably was said. Then reiterated on the record. Jeff didn't listen. He's fired.

Why would Jeff intentionally disregard what his bosses were asking of him? Why would he do that if his intention was keeping his job? Isn’t it safer to assume that Jeff played for wins because he didn’t feel that management had his back once the season began to unravel? Isn’t it easy to assume that Hornacek was a Phil pick and Mills just wanted his own hire?

[Adelheid]

Because they were letting him do his thing. Did you forget that part? Once KP went down the focus should have immdeiately shifted to kids. Jeff kept running Jack out there. Then Perry went on record that they expect to see more of the young guys and Jeff dragged his heels. In other words...the words I used before...they laid down what they expected and let him do his thing. He failed.

They stepped in and eventually fired him. They probably wanted him gone before the season ended. It's not hard to figure out.

Stuff like that can be discussed close-doors. Why does Perry need to go to the media to say that I wonder.

It probably was said. Then reiterated on the record. Jeff didn't listen. He's fired.

I dont see JVG working out with these conditions if they get him. The guy is too old to put up with rookies. He will try to win it just like the Jeff before him. The coach we need is, again, willing and enjoys developing players.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Stuff like that can be discussed close-doors. Why does Perry need to go to the media to say that I wonder.

It probably was said. Then reiterated on the record. Jeff didn't listen. He's fired.

I dont see JVG working out with these conditions if they get him. The guy is too old to put up with rookies. He will try to win it just like the Jeff before him. The coach we need is, again, willing and enjoys developing players.

I don't know. If this is a rebuild...the coach should know coming in. If we have vets...and they are that much better...trade them. If they are not really that much better...put them in their roles. If they don't like it...get rid of them. We didn't have any vets that couldn't beer outplayed by a young talent.

Jeff didn't have to keep playing vets. Kids earned minutes and he yanked them and DNP-CD'd them after. He sucked. He's gone.

If JVG (or anyone) isn't down with a long term approach...don't hire him. They would have to be stupid not to understand that anyway.

[Adelheid]

It probably was said. Then reiterated on the record. Jeff didn't listen. He's fired.

I dont see JVG working out with these conditions if they get him. The guy is too old to put up with rookies. He will try to win it just like the Jeff before him. The coach we need is, again, willing and enjoys developing players.

I don't know. If this is a rebuild...the coach should know coming in. If we have vets...and they are that much better...trade them. If they are not really that much better...put them in their roles. If they don't like it...get rid of them. We didn't have any vets that couldn't beer outplayed by a young talent.

Jeff didn't have to keep playing vets. Kids earned minutes and he yanked them and DNP-CD'd them after. He sucked. He's gone.

If JVG (or anyone) isn't down with a long term approach...don't hire him. They would have to be stupid not to understand that anyway.

Candidates can say the words Mills/Perry need to hear to get the job. Doesnt mean they will stay true to their word. Simply put, I dont trust old and retreaded coaches.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Stuff like that can be discussed close-doors. Why does Perry need to go to the media to say that I wonder.

It probably was said. Then reiterated on the record. Jeff didn't listen. He's fired.

Why would Jeff intentionally disregard what his bosses were asking of him? Why would he do that if his intention was keeping his job? Isn’t it safer to assume that Jeff played for wins because he didn’t feel that management had his back once the season began to unravel? Isn’t it easy to assume that Hornacek was a Phil pick and Mills just wanted his own hire?

Really? All signs point to yes. I'm done with this silly back and forth. I stated the FO exact words and what Jeff did. He didn't follow what the FO wanted. Period. Whether he knew/thougt he was a lame duck or not. He did not do what the FO repeatedly stated they were looking for. They fired him. Being a Phil choice doesn't change anything I said but...probably compounds it. They don't have to be exclusive opinions of what happened. They actually fit hand in hand.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I dont see JVG working out with these conditions if they get him. The guy is too old to put up with rookies. He will try to win it just like the Jeff before him. The coach we need is, again, willing and enjoys developing players.

I don't know. If this is a rebuild...the coach should know coming in. If we have vets...and they are that much better...trade them. If they are not really that much better...put them in their roles. If they don't like it...get rid of them. We didn't have any vets that couldn't beer outplayed by a young talent.

Jeff didn't have to keep playing vets. Kids earned minutes and he yanked them and DNP-CD'd them after. He sucked. He's gone.

If JVG (or anyone) isn't down with a long term approach...don't hire him. They would have to be stupid not to understand that anyway.

Candidates can say the words Mills/Perry need to hear to get the job. Doesnt mean they will stay true to their word. Simply put, I dont trust old and retreaded coaches.

Not sure where you're going with this. Ok. Don't trust them. No argument here. I want Stack and would love Sheed with him!