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Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year

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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#461 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Tue May 8, 2018 3:08 am

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I see Miles as a SF/PF tweener. Mikal is a little to thin. I really think Miles has NBA ready body right now. Could play the 4 with KP at the 5/injured and the 3 with KP at the 4.

Either one is cool with me...I just think I like Miles a little more.


I lean towards Mikal because he offers great production in two of the most important areas in the game now. Miles has a little jack of all master of none quality about him.


Fair enough. I like Mikal too. I just think Miles is more NBA ready physically. He can defend. He can shoot. He can finish through contact. He looks stronger. Gets above the rim. Either one would be a good pick for us.

And he’s a lefty!
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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#462 » by knickstape4ever » Tue May 8, 2018 3:14 am

I'm really high on Frank's potential. For those who say he's not a PG, they are wrong. He 100% has point guard instincts. His issue was beating guys off the dribble, which he struggled to do because he lacks the strength to drive past his guy; that will improve as he continues to mature/fill out his frame. His handle also needs work, however, that will also come with time and work in the gym (which I see by his insta he's already doing).

What's so tantalizing about him is that in a PG dominated league, he has the potential to lock down the opposing PG, which would be huuuge for us. Consistently, I'd look at the box score and see that Frank had one of the highest +/- on the team. The dude affects winning basketball on the defensive end tremendously, and with his continued development on offense, the potential is really high. It's gonna be fun winning games with great defense like previous successful knicks teams; nothing like great defense to ignite the Garden
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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#463 » by stuporman » Tue May 8, 2018 6:15 am

I think if anyone expects Frank to be a typical but oversized "PG " they will be disappointed, although I think he has a more flexible role with a dynamic team impact, a guard/wing version of Draymond Green.
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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#464 » by Besart19 » Tue May 8, 2018 7:09 am

Frank will be our Magic Johnson.

A 6'9 point guard that thrives on open court

Porzingis - Abdul Jabar
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Ntilikina - Johnson

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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#466 » by 2010 » Thu May 10, 2018 12:04 am

"I see a possibility with a two-way player," Fizdale said Wednesday morning on ESPN. "The kid takes real pride in defending. He got big-time wingspan. He's a combo guard. I think we could get him where he's knocking down that 3-ball every single time, feet set. His shot's already looking pretty good. I think he's a little too unselfish. But again, I think he has that competitive streak I really like. That's all I hear about from people in the organization, from his teammates. So I'm really looking forward to coaching the kid and seeing where we can get him."


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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#467 » by PorzinGAWD » Thu May 10, 2018 12:32 pm

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"I see a possibility with a two-way player," Fizdale said Wednesday morning on ESPN. "The kid takes real pride in defending. He got big-time wingspan. He's a combo guard. I think we could get him where he's knocking down that 3-ball every single time, feet set. His shot's already looking pretty good. I think he's a little too unselfish. But again, I think he has that competitive streak I really like. That's all I hear about from people in the organization, from his teammates. So I'm really looking forward to coaching the kid and seeing where we can get him."


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/david-fizdale-excited-coach-knicks-guard-frank-ntilikina-article-1.3981139


Great praise but I noticed he wasn't referred to as a PG by Fizdale......
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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#468 » by NYKnickerbocker » Thu May 10, 2018 12:54 pm

PorzinGAWD wrote:
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"I see a possibility with a two-way player," Fizdale said Wednesday morning on ESPN. "The kid takes real pride in defending. He got big-time wingspan. He's a combo guard. I think we could get him where he's knocking down that 3-ball every single time, feet set. His shot's already looking pretty good. I think he's a little too unselfish. But again, I think he has that competitive streak I really like. That's all I hear about from people in the organization, from his teammates. So I'm really looking forward to coaching the kid and seeing where we can get him."


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/david-fizdale-excited-coach-knicks-guard-frank-ntilikina-article-1.3981139


Great praise but I noticed he wasn't referred to as a PG by Fizdale......
didnt he emphasize that al of them are just guards and not Pg or Sg in the press conference
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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#469 » by Fat Kat » Thu May 10, 2018 1:26 pm

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"I see a possibility with a two-way player," Fizdale said Wednesday morning on ESPN. "The kid takes real pride in defending. He got big-time wingspan. He's a combo guard. I think we could get him where he's knocking down that 3-ball every single time, feet set. His shot's already looking pretty good. I think he's a little too unselfish. But again, I think he has that competitive streak I really like. That's all I hear about from people in the organization, from his teammates. So I'm really looking forward to coaching the kid and seeing where we can get him."


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/david-fizdale-excited-coach-knicks-guard-frank-ntilikina-article-1.3981139


Great praise but I noticed he wasn't referred to as a PG by Fizdale......


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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#470 » by PorzinGAWD » Thu May 10, 2018 3:06 pm

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Great praise but I noticed he wasn't referred to as a PG by Fizdale......
didnt he emphasize that al of them are just guards and not Pg or Sg in the press conference


So then the next question is does that mean Fizdale believes in the idea that sg/pg don't exist, or that the knicks don't have a pg?
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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#471 » by GONYK » Thu May 10, 2018 3:24 pm

PorzinGAWD wrote:
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Great praise but I noticed he wasn't referred to as a PG by Fizdale......
didnt he emphasize that al of them are just guards and not Pg or Sg in the press conference


So then the next question is does that mean Fizdale believes in the idea that sg/pg don't exist, or that the knicks don't have a pg?


He believes the guards are interchangeable based on their strengths
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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#472 » by PorzinGAWD » Thu May 10, 2018 3:26 pm

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NYKnickerbocker wrote:didnt he emphasize that al of them are just guards and not Pg or Sg in the press conference


So then the next question is does that mean Fizdale believes in the idea that sg/pg don't exist, or that the knicks don't have a pg?


He believes the guards are interchangeable based on their strengths


Ok I am glad to hear that. Thank you for clarifying.
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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#473 » by taj2133 » Thu May 10, 2018 4:54 pm

I think frank need to play vegas summer league mudiay and burke are going to work on there game with fiz this summer i think franks needs this summer league to prove himself.
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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#474 » by Futureisnow » Sun May 13, 2018 2:56 pm

Not a stellar rookie year by any stretch but he's so young it's hard to say what he'll be. His work ethic is top notch and I'm curious to see what he looks like in summer league. Anyone who writes him off already is crazy.
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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#476 » by NYKAL » Mon May 14, 2018 2:34 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:I'm really high on Frank's potential. For those who say he's not a PG, they are wrong. He 100% has point guard instincts. His issue was beating guys off the dribble, which he struggled to do because he lacks the strength to drive past his guy; that will improve as he continues to mature/fill out his frame. His handle also needs work, however, that will also come with time and work in the gym (which I see by his insta he's already doing).

What's so tantalizing about him is that in a PG dominated league, he has the potential to lock down the opposing PG, which would be huuuge for us. Consistently, I'd look at the box score and see that Frank had one of the highest +/- on the team. The dude affects winning basketball on the defensive end tremendously, and with his continued development on offense, the potential is really high. It's gonna be fun winning games with great defense like previous successful knicks teams; nothing like great defense to ignite the Garden


I think you limit him. He has point guard skills, shooting guard skills and has the size to guard some forwards. Dude should have NO defined position. He could truly become a Draymond Green type player. Whatever is needed, Frank can do it :)
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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#477 » by K P 6 » Mon May 14, 2018 2:43 pm

I want Frank to prove himself at the 1. Mudiay and Burke are more of a 2 than Frank because they are more aggressive in scoring and driving. Frank is only more of a 2 now because he has to sure up his handle and he's big enough to guard 2's. Once he puts it together he's a 1 period. I really think he was put off ball because of his shaky handles.
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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#478 » by Tron Carter » Mon May 14, 2018 3:53 pm

K P 6 wrote:I want Frank to prove himself at the 1. Mudiay and Burke are more of a 2 than Frank because they are more aggressive in scoring and driving. Frank is only more of a 2 now because he has to sure up his handle and he's big enough to guard 2's. Once he puts it together he's a 1 period. I really think he was put off ball because of his shaky handles.


it’s all about confidence and getting a feel for the game. he has a rookie season under his belt and he stayed healthy. i keep harping back to his performance during the fiba u-18 championship game. that’s frank playing his true position, with confidence, at his best.
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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#479 » by BKAY » Mon May 14, 2018 4:07 pm

I think its mind blowing that some think there is only one side to the basketball game. If he isnt scoring , he isnt good. Yet, here is a 19 year old who is out of the gate, one of the best defenders at the guard position IN THE LEAGUE. and its not even over-hyping him in typical knicks fan fashion. The numbers and the eye test corroborate this.
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Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year 

Post#480 » by knickstape4ever » Mon May 14, 2018 5:43 pm

K P 6 wrote:I want Frank to prove himself at the 1. Mudiay and Burke are more of a 2 than Frank because they are more aggressive in scoring and driving. Frank is only more of a 2 now because he has to sure up his handle and he's big enough to guard 2's. Once he puts it together he's a 1 period. I really think he was put off ball because of his shaky handles.


agreed, his value is truly at the 1, where he can lock down the opposing PG. A lot more good PG's in this league than good SG's, so defensively you actually want him guarding 1's

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