Re: Frank Ntilikina - Rookie Year
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:00 am
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Capn'O wrote:GEOLINK wrote:jullybully21 wrote:
Frank needs to put KP on to his workouts lol
Maybe a certain genetics might be the difference here.
We tried to tell 'em about that frame. It's so much harder for a guy like KP to add weight. Frank will fill out easily.
Mikal has the same sort of build, btw.
knickstape4ever wrote:Capn'O wrote:GEOLINK wrote:Maybe a certain genetics might be the difference here.
We tried to tell 'em about that frame. It's so much harder for a guy like KP to add weight. Frank will fill out easily.
Mikal has the same sort of build, btw.
Mikal does not have the same frame as Frank. He's more wiry, and his shoulders are not as broad. He's also almost 22, so he's probably more maxed out than Frank
Nazrmohamed wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:Capn'O wrote:
We tried to tell 'em about that frame. It's so much harder for a guy like KP to add weight. Frank will fill out easily.
Mikal has the same sort of build, btw.
Mikal does not have the same frame as Frank. He's more wiry, and his shoulders are not as broad. He's also almost 22, so he's probably more maxed out than Frank
Don't underestimate the power of an elite workout regiment, nutritionists and the fear of failure. Mikal has built himself up from nothing. I have to believe he'll put in the work but it's about professional training. Somebody's gotta guide him through it. But when he does fool out you're looking at 7ft plus wingspan.
The other thing I think people gotta entertain is the idea that in the nba he's actually less Otto Porter and more Danny Green. We might see Hardaway stay at SF while we allow Mikal to develop at SG until he fills out or maybe he stays there. I think he's allot more in the Green/Kittles/Miller mold than the Porter/Kuwaiy mold that people wanna lump him into. I get he plays defense but I see him being a plus at SG.
Clyde_Style wrote:Nazrmohamed wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:
Mikal does not have the same frame as Frank. He's more wiry, and his shoulders are not as broad. He's also almost 22, so he's probably more maxed out than Frank
Don't underestimate the power of an elite workout regiment, nutritionists and the fear of failure. Mikal has built himself up from nothing. I have to believe he'll put in the work but it's about professional training. Somebody's gotta guide him through it. But when he does fool out you're looking at 7ft plus wingspan.
The other thing I think people gotta entertain is the idea that in the nba he's actually less Otto Porter and more Danny Green. We might see Hardaway stay at SF while we allow Mikal to develop at SG until he fills out or maybe he stays there. I think he's allot more in the Green/Kittles/Miller mold than the Porter/Kuwaiy mold that people wanna lump him into. I get he plays defense but I see him being a plus at SG.
Him and Frank in the backcourt would have games where they shut down the opponent's backcourts.
Though I'm willing to consider Trae, I still have my best daydreams imagining a backcourt with Frank and a tall defender like Mikal destroying another team's guards defensively.
Manhattan Project wrote:I mean what did people expect? When we drafted Frank he was going to be a project, you knew his rookie year was going to be not as stellar as some of his fellow draft mates. However Frank is starting to look the part of a NBA player, no strength and conditioning up until this year. He's putting in the work to transform his body, he's putting in the work to improve his game.
He's looking the part of a NBA player. Talent with Frank isn't the problem, it's confidence and mental. I'm expecting a nice step forward from him next year and year three he really emerges as an great two way player. Just imagine, he's going to be even better defensively next year because of the strength.
Ignitowsky wrote: in addition to strength, he's going to be more experienced and playing in a real NBA defense. He's going to be in beast mode under Fiz.
Ignitowsky wrote:Manhattan Project wrote:I mean what did people expect? When we drafted Frank he was going to be a project, you knew his rookie year was going to be not as stellar as some of his fellow draft mates. However Frank is starting to look the part of a NBA player, no strength and conditioning up until this year. He's putting in the work to transform his body, he's putting in the work to improve his game.
He's looking the part of a NBA player. Talent with Frank isn't the problem, it's confidence and mental. I'm expecting a nice step forward from him next year and year three he really emerges as an great two way player. Just imagine, he's going to be even better defensively next year because of the strength.
in addition to strength, he's going to be more experienced and playing in a real NBA defense. He's going to be in beast mode under Fiz.
Clyde_Style wrote:Nazrmohamed wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:
Mikal does not have the same frame as Frank. He's more wiry, and his shoulders are not as broad. He's also almost 22, so he's probably more maxed out than Frank
Don't underestimate the power of an elite workout regiment, nutritionists and the fear of failure. Mikal has built himself up from nothing. I have to believe he'll put in the work but it's about professional training. Somebody's gotta guide him through it. But when he does fool out you're looking at 7ft plus wingspan.
The other thing I think people gotta entertain is the idea that in the nba he's actually less Otto Porter and more Danny Green. We might see Hardaway stay at SF while we allow Mikal to develop at SG until he fills out or maybe he stays there. I think he's allot more in the Green/Kittles/Miller mold than the Porter/Kuwaiy mold that people wanna lump him into. I get he plays defense but I see him being a plus at SG.
Him and Frank in the backcourt would have games where they shut down the opponent's backcourts.
Though I'm willing to consider Trae, I still have my best daydreams imagining a backcourt with Frank and a tall defender like Mikal destroying another team's guards defensively.
Tron Carter wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:Nazrmohamed wrote:
Don't underestimate the power of an elite workout regiment, nutritionists and the fear of failure. Mikal has built himself up from nothing. I have to believe he'll put in the work but it's about professional training. Somebody's gotta guide him through it. But when he does fool out you're looking at 7ft plus wingspan.
The other thing I think people gotta entertain is the idea that in the nba he's actually less Otto Porter and more Danny Green. We might see Hardaway stay at SF while we allow Mikal to develop at SG until he fills out or maybe he stays there. I think he's allot more in the Green/Kittles/Miller mold than the Porter/Kuwaiy mold that people wanna lump him into. I get he plays defense but I see him being a plus at SG.
Him and Frank in the backcourt would have games where they shut down the opponent's backcourts.
Though I'm willing to consider Trae, I still have my best daydreams imagining a backcourt with Frank and a tall defender like Mikal destroying another team's guards defensively.
ya know I was so viamently against trae but I listened to a locked on knicks podcast that did a draft breakdown on him and I’ve really warmed up to him. can’t overlook how polished of a passer he is. if he has a 10-15% chance of becoming Steve Nash he may be worth the risk. but I can’t see any scenario of him gettin past the magic.
Tron Carter wrote:sometimes you forget the flashes this kid showed passing the ball. he was really fukkin good this game.
Manhattan Project wrote:I mean what did people expect? When we drafted Frank he was going to be a project, you knew his rookie year was going to be not as stellar as some of his fellow draft mates. However Frank is starting to look the part of a NBA player, no strength and conditioning up until this year. He's putting in the work to transform his body, he's putting in the work to improve his game.
He's looking the part of a NBA player. Talent with Frank isn't the problem, it's confidence and mental. I'm expecting a nice step forward from him next year and year three he really emerges as an great two way player. Just imagine, he's going to be even better defensively next year because of the strength.
thebuzzardman wrote:Manhattan Project wrote:I mean what did people expect? When we drafted Frank he was going to be a project, you knew his rookie year was going to be not as stellar as some of his fellow draft mates. However Frank is starting to look the part of a NBA player, no strength and conditioning up until this year. He's putting in the work to transform his body, he's putting in the work to improve his game.
He's looking the part of a NBA player. Talent with Frank isn't the problem, it's confidence and mental. I'm expecting a nice step forward from him next year and year three he really emerges as an great two way player. Just imagine, he's going to be even better defensively next year because of the strength.
Knick fans: "I wish we'd swing for the fences and draft a project but develop him"
Knicks draft project
Knick fans: "This guy sucks"
WajaBawl wrote:Tron Carter wrote:sometimes you forget the flashes this kid showed passing the ball. he was really fukkin good this game.
Exactly why is he is long-term PG. Fucc outta here with the off-ball SG bs.