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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#161 » by dakomish23 » Fri May 11, 2018 3:43 pm

Multipe Sources wrote:I'm very high on him and he's done decently well under some terrible coaches here, but obviously, this is absurd. A better comparison is like James Johnson or Joe Ingles with a much worse 3 point shot. But either way, I consider Lance a positive value player and he could thrive under a defensive coach like Fizdale.

Man would I love to see us actually have a great defense. I feel like if Fiz can turn us into even a top 10 defensive team next year, I don't care where the offense ranks. I feel like it'll be easy to improve the offense with guys like KP and Tim,we need to establish ourselves as a team with a defensive mentality.


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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#162 » by El Poochio » Fri May 11, 2018 4:22 pm

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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#163 » by El Poochio » Fri May 11, 2018 4:30 pm

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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#164 » by blueNorange » Fri May 11, 2018 4:39 pm

lance will definitely be a draymond green level player, i mean have you heard fizdale speak? he can convince anyone to be anything, and if they don't he'll throw them under the bus during the post game.
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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#165 » by mpharris36 » Fri May 11, 2018 4:59 pm

there is a positive about Lance playing the Draymond role....we are guaranteed to lose every game next year :lol:
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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#166 » by VCfor3 » Fri May 11, 2018 5:17 pm

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I agree with you, they were innocent comments. The media is going to be looking to tear him down any chance they can. I'm sure the Gasol comments wont be going away any time soon. I do think the idea of even using them the same is ridiculous but whatever.


Oh he very much made the same comments when he was with the Grizzlies and we shook our heads like you guys are now. He called Jamychal Green his Draymond. He, and this is my favorite, said that Parsons had a similar skill set to Lebron and wanted to use him as such. The only thing Parsons and Lebron have in common is they are both on large contracts in the NBA.

The story that came out about him vs Gasol/the team here recently doesn't seem like a big deal, but as a Memphis fan I fully appreciate why Gasol was upset. Fiz was strongly against "GritnGrind" apparently which was our veteran core's identity. He also keep saying "Miami this" and "Miami that" which probably is a bad idea when you're in Memphis.


I can somehow understand why it was a bad idea when he kept on indoctrinating the miami way into your team which is known for its grit and grind style for a long while and is its identity, but the Knicks are not in contention for a considerable amt of time and has no identity so the FO might not mind borrowing cultures from other successful teams.


I agree. When Memphis hired Fiz, they did so since they had no direction and didn't know where the culture was heading as the Grit n Grind vets start to age out. They hired him to basically come put in some of the Miami culture. The problem was just how he went about doing it. The Knicks don't have a culture for him to tear down so I think that alone will help him be more successful this time around.
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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#167 » by jermsknicks » Fri May 11, 2018 5:23 pm

I call BS on this! Even if Lance is a decent defender, its the intimidation gene that Lance will never have.

What NBA player would be shook to go against Lance like our Porzingis is to go against this Green?

Green also gets a break from the refs that Lance doesnt have the superstardem to get.

I like the hire of Fiz, but he needs to save that for the lockerroom. Just tell his wife to come out and say all the crazy stuff....It would sound a lil better coming from a hottie.
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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#168 » by thebuzzardman » Fri May 11, 2018 7:28 pm

Multipe Sources wrote:I'm very high on him and he's done decently well under some terrible coaches here, but obviously, this is absurd. A better comparison is like James Johnson or Joe Ingles with a much worse 3 point shot. But either way, I consider Lance a positive value player and he could thrive under a defensive coach like Fizdale.

Man would I love to see us actually have a great defense. I feel like if Fiz can turn us into even a top 10 defensive team next year, I don't care where the offense ranks. I feel like it'll be easy to improve the offense with guys like KP and Tim, we need to establish ourselves as a team with a defensive mentality.


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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#169 » by CoolKids » Sat May 12, 2018 3:37 am

3toheadmelo wrote:do u expect him to come out and say " ya lance is a bum" lol

Ok but there is a huge amount of middle ground between those two things
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Post#170 » by CoolKids » Sat May 12, 2018 3:41 am

lol we're going to be terrible next year
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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#171 » by thebuzzardman » Sat May 12, 2018 11:41 am

HEY! LFT IS GOING TO BE BAD ASS AS F*CK. BEST ALL AROUND SF EVER ON THE KNICKS. FIZ IS GOING TO UNLEASH HIM BECAUSE FIZ IS THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH, SORRY, I'M A LITTLE HIGH FROM ALL THIS COKE.
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Post#172 » by DrCoach » Sat May 12, 2018 12:30 pm

Nice to have a coach put confidence in his players
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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#173 » by Adelheid » Sat May 12, 2018 12:39 pm

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Multipe Sources wrote:I'm very high on him and he's done decently well under some terrible coaches here, but obviously, this is absurd. A better comparison is like James Johnson or Joe Ingles with a much worse 3 point shot. But either way, I consider Lance a positive value player and he could thrive under a defensive coach like Fizdale.

Man would I love to see us actually have a great defense. I feel like if Fiz can turn us into even a top 10 defensive team next year, I don't care where the offense ranks. I feel like it'll be easy to improve the offense with guys like KP and Tim, we need to establish ourselves as a team with a defensive mentality.


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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#174 » by Are We Ther Yet » Sat May 12, 2018 10:18 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:HEY! LFT IS GOING TO BE BAD ASS AS F*CK. BEST ALL AROUND SF EVER ON THE KNICKS. FIZ IS GOING TO UNLEASH HIM BECAUSE FIZ IS THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH, SORRY, I'M A LITTLE HIGH FROM ALL THIS COKE.


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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#175 » by FKF » Sun May 13, 2018 12:04 pm

Most of y'all complained about our president comparing KP to Shawn Bradley. You deserved this.
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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#176 » by thebuzzardman » Sun May 13, 2018 12:06 pm

FKF wrote:Most of y'all complained about our president comparing KP to Shawn Bradley. You deserved this.


At least he could meet and exceed that comparison. This, on the other hand? :D


I'd have been ok if Fiz compared LFT to a bulked up Shandon Anderson. That would make sense.
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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#177 » by FKF » Sun May 13, 2018 12:09 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
FKF wrote:Most of y'all complained about our president comparing KP to Shawn Bradley. You deserved this.


At least he could meet and exceed that comparison. This, on the other hand? :D


I'd have been ok if Fiz compared LFT to a bulked up Shandon Anderson. That would make sense.


Or Charles Smith.

But hey, we signed this coach because he connects well with LeBron. Go figure.
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Post#178 » by thebuzzardman » Sun May 13, 2018 12:09 pm

Anyway, it's just fun to bust on LFT and have some sport on Fiz here. I think every coach and GM has liked LFT. He hustles his ass off. He runs what they are running - commits to offensive and defensive sets. He's a good (but overrated) defender. I get why coaches like him and why they play him. I just wish they wouldn't play him so much. Some of that is a factor of the roster being poor. But 10 mpg of LFT is ok by me.

His forays to the hoop are an adventure though. (clyde voice). He's become a good spot up 3 point shooter. There should be some kind of "no dribbling rule" for LFT though.
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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#179 » by Knicksfan20 » Sun May 13, 2018 12:10 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
FKF wrote:Most of y'all complained about our president comparing KP to Shawn Bradley. You deserved this.


At least he could meet and exceed that comparison. This, on the other hand? :D


I'd have been ok if Fiz compared LFT to a bulked up Shandon Anderson. That would make sense.


Even Shandon Anderson had more ability then Lance and thats saying a lot lol.
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Re: NYDN: Fiz sees Lance Thomas as his Draymond Green (WTF) 

Post#180 » by thebuzzardman » Sun May 13, 2018 12:12 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:
FKF wrote:Most of y'all complained about our president comparing KP to Shawn Bradley. You deserved this.


At least he could meet and exceed that comparison. This, on the other hand? :D


I'd have been ok if Fiz compared LFT to a bulked up Shandon Anderson. That would make sense.


Even Shandon Anderson had more ability then Lance and thats saying a lot lol.


I was trying to find a suitable comparison. It isn't easy. One of those Graham brothers from about 15 years ago? Slightly shorter JYD (Knicks version)? JYD was more inside battler.

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