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2018 Lottery Night - Tuesday, 7:30 PM EST on ESPN

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Who Gets The #1 Pick?!

Phoenix
11
13%
Memphis
5
6%
Dallas
4
5%
Atlanta
2
2%
Orlando
2
2%
Chicago
1
1%
Sacramento
2
2%
Cleveland
4
5%
New York
53
62%
Other (10-14)
1
1%
 
Total votes: 85

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Re: 2018 Lottery Night - Tuesday, 7:30 PM EST on ESPN 

Post#1021 » by Reign23 » Wed May 16, 2018 1:50 pm

btw i don't think it's possible to trade down for the clippers #12+#13 without including the untouchable assets (KP, Frank, future 1sts). but I would throw everything else at them.

like #9, #36, 3m cash, 2019 second (almost no value there..) and whoever they want out of burke/dotson/kornet/mudiay.
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Post#1022 » by bigfnjoe96 » Wed May 16, 2018 2:18 pm

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bigfnjoe96 wrote:If MPJ is there at 9, you take him and dash before someone calls the cops.

Dude is the truth. Sad he got injured, but he's still young enough to strengthen his back. Reminds some of a young Amare before his knees gave up

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He's literally nothing like any version of Amar'e.
Should have probably said his explosiveness reminds me of a young Amare.

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Post#1023 » by newyorker4ever » Wed May 16, 2018 2:33 pm

ChaosHamster wrote:Why is Porter jr. even considered in top10? Because of his highschool hype?

Isn't dudes story similar to Gilles from last year? He also was amazing in hs, then sucked in collage because of injuries. And got picked 20th.



How could he of sucked in college when he didn't play because of injuries?
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Re: 2018 Lottery Night - Tuesday, 7:30 PM EST on ESPN 

Post#1024 » by Dr. Detfink » Wed May 16, 2018 2:36 pm

Watching how a used car salesman, Danny Ainge SOLD a pair of broke down vets for a king's ransom of draft picks, and built a nice mix of young versatile athletes with a few veterans...

Watching how the Sixers tanked their way to getting 2 franchise players, plethora of draft picks, enough assets to continue to improve, and cap management...

It makes me look at the Knicks and say, "That's it...after all this time?"
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Post#1025 » by FrontOfficeEye » Wed May 16, 2018 2:36 pm

bigfnjoe96 wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
bigfnjoe96 wrote:If MPJ is there at 9, you take him and dash before someone calls the cops.

Dude is the truth. Sad he got injured, but he's still young enough to strengthen his back. Reminds some of a young Amare before his knees gave up

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He's literally nothing like any version of Amar'e.
Should have probably said his explosiveness reminds me of a young Amare.

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Even that I don't see.
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Post#1026 » by bigfnjoe96 » Wed May 16, 2018 2:50 pm

FrontOfficeEye wrote:
bigfnjoe96 wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
He's literally nothing like any version of Amar'e.
Should have probably said his explosiveness reminds me of a young Amare.

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Even that I don't see.
Fair enough. Do you take him at 9 if he's there?

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Post#1027 » by FrontOfficeEye » Wed May 16, 2018 2:59 pm

bigfnjoe96 wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
bigfnjoe96 wrote:Should have probably said his explosiveness reminds me of a young Amare.

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Even that I don't see.
Fair enough. Do you take him at 9 if he's there?

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I wouldn’t, but that’s just me. Wasn’t a fan before the injury and not a fan after.
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Post#1028 » by j4remi » Wed May 16, 2018 3:13 pm

Reign23 wrote:btw i don't think it's possible to trade down for the clippers #12+#13 without including the untouchable assets (KP, Frank, future 1sts). but I would throw everything else at them.

like #9, #36, 3m cash, 2019 second (almost no value there..) and whoever they want out of burke/dotson/kornet/mudiay.


I don't think so either, maybe ATL 19,30 and something extra to compensate? That's a dangerous distance to drop though.
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Post#1029 » by Reign23 » Wed May 16, 2018 3:25 pm

j4remi wrote:
Reign23 wrote:btw i don't think it's possible to trade down for the clippers #12+#13 without including the untouchable assets (KP, Frank, future 1sts). but I would throw everything else at them.

like #9, #36, 3m cash, 2019 second (almost no value there..) and whoever they want out of burke/dotson/kornet/mudiay.


I don't think so either, maybe ATL 19,30 and something extra to compensate? That's a dangerous distance to drop though.


naaah that would suck. the only deal I see here is with clippers. (and that one is a longshot).
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Post#1030 » by newyorker4ever » Wed May 16, 2018 3:53 pm

Dr. Detfink wrote:Watching how a used car salesman, Danny Ainge SOLD a pair of broke down vets for a king's ransom of draft picks, and built a nice mix of young versatile athletes with a few veterans...

Watching how the Sixers tanked their way to getting 2 franchise players, plethora of draft picks, enough assets to continue to improve, and cap management...

It makes me look at the Knicks and say, "That's it...after all this time?"



Was it just Pierce and KG or was R.Allen also in that trade with Brooklyn?

The Knicks don't get #1 picks to be able to get players that have the chance of being stars like they did with Embiid (they got him at #3 because of the injury concerns) and B.Simmons and M.Fultz. We're usually picking in the lottery but more towards the end of it besides the KP pick which shows what you can do with a high pick and we lost so many 1st rounders in the Melo trade and with how bad I.Thomas messed this team up with his trades. You get two top 3 picks in a row and you can add two young stars to the team which is a huge help for any team rebuilding.
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Post#1031 » by bigfnjoe96 » Wed May 16, 2018 4:35 pm

FrontOfficeEye wrote:
bigfnjoe96 wrote:
FrontOfficeEye wrote:
Even that I don't see.
Fair enough. Do you take him at 9 if he's there?

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I wouldn’t, but that’s just me. Wasn’t a fan before the injury and not a fan after.
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Post#1032 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed May 16, 2018 6:16 pm

Dr. Detfink wrote:Watching how a used car salesman, Danny Ainge SOLD a pair of broke down vets for a king's ransom of draft picks, and built a nice mix of young versatile athletes with a few veterans...

Watching how the Sixers tanked their way to getting 2 franchise players, plethora of draft picks, enough assets to continue to improve, and cap management...

It makes me look at the Knicks and say, "That's it...after all this time?"


I don't think Ainge should get the credit. Rather, Billy King and Prokerov deserve the blame.
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Post#1033 » by AllanHoustonFan » Wed May 16, 2018 6:21 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Dr. Detfink wrote:Watching how a used car salesman, Danny Ainge SOLD a pair of broke down vets for a king's ransom of draft picks, and built a nice mix of young versatile athletes with a few veterans...

Watching how the Sixers tanked their way to getting 2 franchise players, plethora of draft picks, enough assets to continue to improve, and cap management...

It makes me look at the Knicks and say, "That's it...after all this time?"


I don't think Ainge should get the credit. Rather, Billy King and Prokerov deserve the blame.

Bingo. Remember, Prokerov wanted to the premier basketball team in the city by any means necessary.
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Post#1034 » by GEOLINK » Wed May 16, 2018 6:49 pm

Nets deserve the **** they’ve gotten after buying advertisement around the MSG area promoting their bull crap.
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Re: 2018 Lottery Night - Tuesday, 7:30 PM EST on ESPN 

Post#1035 » by newyorker4ever » Wed May 16, 2018 7:10 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Dr. Detfink wrote:Watching how a used car salesman, Danny Ainge SOLD a pair of broke down vets for a king's ransom of draft picks, and built a nice mix of young versatile athletes with a few veterans...

Watching how the Sixers tanked their way to getting 2 franchise players, plethora of draft picks, enough assets to continue to improve, and cap management...

It makes me look at the Knicks and say, "That's it...after all this time?"


I don't think Ainge should get the credit. Rather, Billy King and Prokerov deserve the blame.



Ainge should get credit for how he used all those picks though which some were used on kids like J.Brown and J.Tatum while he used others to trade for future 1st round picks and even used a couple in some good trades like getting Kyrie. I thought it was a very smart move to trade one of the 1st rounders he got last year and turning it into future picks instead of using them all right away.
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Post#1036 » by EricAnderson » Wed May 16, 2018 7:16 pm

It’s extremely frustrating knowing we have no way to complete with the Celtics the next 7,8 years and where gonna have to see them win multiple titles eventually.

Then next year even if we do stink enough to win the lottery which we probably won’t its one of the weaker drafts in years and there is nothing close to a generational talent
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Post#1037 » by draftbarnes » Wed May 16, 2018 7:33 pm

EricAnderson wrote:It’s extremely frustrating knowing we have no way to complete with the Celtics the next 7,8 years and where gonna have to see them win multiple titles eventually.

Then next year even if we do stink enough to win the lottery which we probably won’t its one of the weaker drafts in years and there is nothing close to a generational talent

Weren't u just complaining about the Sixer's last year now you moved onto a new team
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Re: 2018 Lottery Night - Tuesday, 7:30 PM EST on ESPN 

Post#1038 » by EricAnderson » Wed May 16, 2018 7:35 pm

draftbarnes wrote:
EricAnderson wrote:It’s extremely frustrating knowing we have no way to complete with the Celtics the next 7,8 years and where gonna have to see them win multiple titles eventually.

Then next year even if we do stink enough to win the lottery which we probably won’t its one of the weaker drafts in years and there is nothing close to a generational talent

Weren't u just complaining about the Sixer's last year now you moved onto a new team


There right there too..I mentioned both the Sixers and Celtics last year were gonna dominate the east for a decade and it looks on its way to happening.
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Post#1039 » by Marty McFly » Wed May 16, 2018 7:37 pm

EricAnderson wrote:It’s extremely frustrating knowing we have no way to complete with the Celtics the next 7,8 years and where gonna have to see them win multiple titles eventually.

Then next year even if we do stink enough to win the lottery which we probably won’t its one of the weaker drafts in years and there is nothing close to a generational talent


none of the talent on the celtics is generational, so this idea that we need one to compete with them is just wrong.
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Post#1040 » by EricAnderson » Wed May 16, 2018 7:41 pm

Marty McFly wrote:
EricAnderson wrote:It’s extremely frustrating knowing we have no way to complete with the Celtics the next 7,8 years and where gonna have to see them win multiple titles eventually.

Then next year even if we do stink enough to win the lottery which we probably won’t its one of the weaker drafts in years and there is nothing close to a generational talent


none of the talent on the celtics is generational, so this idea that we need one to compete with them is just wrong.


Tatums damn close..And if you don’t have a generational talent having 5 possible all stars on your team is pretty close..they’re gonna be in the finals and next year get Kyrie and Hayward back but we won’t have to compete with them? Lol wtf are you talking about?

Add in the Kings pick next year and the Grizzlies and Clippers unprotected picks in the next few years they have a ton of assets to get even better.

If you think their set up for the future isn’t much better then ours then you’re just being dellusional and homerish

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