2018/2019 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

TBri1974 · Post #2161 » by **TBri1974** » Wed Feb 6, 2019 2:49 pm

Something like this:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ydy3z5l4

Or the same thing with Pheonix getting Fultz and us getting Josh Jackson also makes more sense (and stops us from collecting guards)

cgf · Post #2162 » by **cgf** » Wed Feb 6, 2019 5:43 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:Wow

Imagine how differently this place would have felt had we acquired Mitchell instead of dsj

Meh, neither one is all to exciting. Fox woulda been nasty, but Mitchell's not a PG nor is he an efficient scorer. So he wouldn't really be any more exciting than DSJ *shrug*

Newyorknick94 · Post #2163 » by **Newyorknick94** » Wed Feb 6, 2019 6:49 pm

We need to flip Vonleh before the deadline

Jeffrey · Post #2164 » by **Jeffrey** » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:23 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
iLovethosedamnknicks wrote:we should make these two trades to give us additional assets:

kanter and lance thomas for zbo / koufas and 2nd rounder (get a 2nd rounder and save 1m from lance next year)

wes mathews and vonleh for wilson chandler, muscala, patten, and 2nd rounder (get 2nd rounder)

Is there a team besides Philly with that could use Vonleh or Matthews?

Would be nice to have 3 #2 picks out of these guys. Of course they couldn't use them all, but to be there to include in trades etc.

The Nets could use a guy like Vonleh. Need a 3 and D.

Post #2165 » by **Capn'O** » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:35 pm

What about inquiring about Orlando's glut?

Post #2166 » by **magnumt** » Wed Feb 6, 2019 8:20 pm

cgf wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:Wow

Imagine how differently this place would have felt had we acquired Mitchell instead of dsj

Meh, neither one is all to exciting. Fox woulda been nasty, but Mitchell's not a PG nor is he an efficient scorer. So he wouldn't really be any more exciting than DSJ *shrug*

You guys realize BOTH teams rejected Porzingis for Fox/Mitchell, right? :-?

THAT says a lot about what people thought about Porzingis. :lol:

—Mags

RHODEY · Post #2167 » by **RHODEY** » Wed Feb 6, 2019 8:36 pm

magnumt wrote:
cgf wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:Wow

Imagine how differently this place would have felt had we acquired Mitchell instead of dsj

Meh, neither one is all to exciting. Fox woulda been nasty, but Mitchell's not a PG nor is he an efficient scorer. So he wouldn't really be any more exciting than DSJ *shrug*

You guys realize BOTH teams rejected Porzingis for Fox/Mitchell, right?

THAT says a lot about what people thought about Porzingis.

—Mags

Or maybe they knew he just wouldn't' resign.

Post #2168 » by **magnumt** » Wed Feb 6, 2019 8:40 pm

RHODEY wrote:
magnumt wrote:
cgf wrote:
Meh, neither one is all to exciting. Fox woulda been nasty, but Mitchell's not a PG nor is he an efficient scorer. So he wouldn't really be any more exciting than DSJ *shrug*

You guys realize BOTH teams rejected Porzingis for Fox/Mitchell, right?

THAT says a lot about what people thought about Porzingis.

—Mags

Or maybe they knew he just wouldn't' resign.

Dallas LMSW too, ESPECIALLY how he didn’t have them on his “list,” so what excuse do you have there. Dallas made an even BIGGER trade & gamble! :-?

—Mags

mugzi · Post #2169 » by **mugzi** » Wed Feb 6, 2019 9:13 pm

How is this thread gonna be titled this and this hasn’t been posted? My wishing well is FRP’s!!!

Watch on YouTube

Post #2170 » by **NoLayupRule** » Wed Feb 6, 2019 9:54 pm

magnumt wrote:
cgf wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:Wow

Imagine how differently this place would have felt had we acquired Mitchell instead of dsj

Meh, neither one is all to exciting. Fox woulda been nasty, but Mitchell's not a PG nor is he an efficient scorer. So he wouldn't really be any more exciting than DSJ *shrug*

You guys realize BOTH teams rejected Porzingis for Fox/Mitchell, right?

THAT says a lot about what people thought about Porzingis.

—Mags

it might say just as much about what the knicks were asking for in addition

remember we dumped a ton of salary, picked up two first rounders and got SmithJr

if we asked the same of Utah and Sac - two teams that knew KP wasn't immediately interested and perhaps were less willing to bet on themselves than Dallas - it might have been too much

Im sure Fox or Mitchel for KP straight up wasn't rejected out of hand

and its also important to note that both teams are in a playoff hunt, which KP would have hurt

Post #2171 » by **NoLayupRule** » Wed Feb 6, 2019 9:56 pm

magnumt wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
magnumt wrote:
You guys realize BOTH teams rejected Porzingis for Fox/Mitchell, right?

THAT says a lot about what people thought about Porzingis.

—Mags

Or maybe they knew he just wouldn't' resign.

Dallas LMSW too, ESPECIALLY how he didn’t have them on his “list,” so what excuse do you have there. Dallas made an even BIGGER trade & gamble!

—Mags

dallas is notorious for being willing to take risks and gamble on themselves

Cuban is considered a players owner and charms a lot of people (somehow)

Knicksfan1992 · Post #2172 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Wed Feb 6, 2019 10:05 pm

Capn'O wrote:What about inquiring about Orlando's glut?

I thought you liked having Frank as a Knick? :lol:

TBri1974 · Post #2173 » by **TBri1974** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:55 am

NoLayupRule wrote:
magnumt wrote:
cgf wrote:
Meh, neither one is all to exciting. Fox woulda been nasty, but Mitchell's not a PG nor is he an efficient scorer. So he wouldn't really be any more exciting than DSJ *shrug*

You guys realize BOTH teams rejected Porzingis for Fox/Mitchell, right?

THAT says a lot about what people thought about Porzingis.

—Mags

it might say just as much about what the knicks were asking for in addition

remember we dumped a ton of salary, picked up two first rounders and got SmithJr

if we asked the same of Utah and Sac - two teams that knew KP wasn't immediately interested and perhaps were less willing to bet on themselves than Dallas - it might have been too much

Im sure Fox or Mitchel for KP straight up wasn't rejected out of hand

and its also important to note that both teams are in a playoff hunt, which KP would have hurt

Sac is building around Fox and having its first success in years. Utah is building around Mitchell. Dallas was not building around DSJ.

Nyk4lyfe · Post #2174 » by **Nyk4lyfe** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:43 am

What would ya'll be willing to give up for Bradley Beal if two maxes decide to come but we lose the AD sweepstakes?

KnicksGadfly · Post #2175 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 6:13 am

magnumt wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
magnumt wrote:
You guys realize BOTH teams rejected Porzingis for Fox/Mitchell, right?

THAT says a lot about what people thought about Porzingis.

—Mags

Or maybe they knew he just wouldn't' resign.

Dallas LMSW too, ESPECIALLY how he didn’t have them on his “list,” so what excuse do you have there. Dallas made an even BIGGER trade & gamble!

—Mags

Yea I think that's a bit of a reach. Dallas always is chasing the big FAs, even with little chance. Guys like Sacramento and Utah gave up a long time ago. I don't see anything wrong with valuing Fox or Mitchell above KP right now too.

newyorker4ever · Post #2176 » by **newyorker4ever** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 1:01 pm

knicksh20b wrote:
magnumt wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Or maybe they knew he just wouldn't' resign.

Dallas LMSW too, ESPECIALLY how he didn’t have them on his “list,” so what excuse do you have there. Dallas made an even BIGGER trade & gamble!

—Mags

Yea I think that's a bit of a reach. Dallas always is chasing the big FAs, even with little chance. Guys like Sacramento and Utah gave up a long time ago. I don't see anything wrong with valuing Fox or Mitchell above KP right now too.

I'm still questioning why if the Knicks supposedly knew Kyrie was coming then why try to get two of the better young PG's out there for KP?

thebuzzardman · Post #2177 » by **thebuzzardman** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 1:14 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
knicksh20b wrote:
magnumt wrote:
Dallas LMSW too, ESPECIALLY how he didn’t have them on his “list,” so what excuse do you have there. Dallas made an even BIGGER trade & gamble!

—Mags

Yea I think that's a bit of a reach. Dallas always is chasing the big FAs, even with little chance. Guys like Sacramento and Utah gave up a long time ago. I don't see anything wrong with valuing Fox or Mitchell above KP right now too.

I'm still questioning why if the Knicks supposedly knew Kyrie was coming then why try to get two of the better young PG's out there for KP?

Because the trade was really about shedding salary?

newyorker4ever · Post #2178 » by **newyorker4ever** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 1:22 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
knicksh20b wrote:
Yea I think that's a bit of a reach. Dallas always is chasing the big FAs, even with little chance. Guys like Sacramento and Utah gave up a long time ago. I don't see anything wrong with valuing Fox or Mitchell above KP right now too.

I'm still questioning why if the Knicks supposedly knew Kyrie was coming then why try to get two of the better young PG's out there for KP?

Because the trade was really about shedding salary?

Right, for Kyrie, but now we have D.Fox or D.Mitchell so why sign Kyrie to a max? I guess D.Mitchell can play either guard spot so him and Kyrie would actually be a pretty damn nice back court.

thebuzzardman · Post #2179 » by **thebuzzardman** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 1:34 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:

I'm still questioning why if the Knicks supposedly knew Kyrie was coming then why try to get two of the better young PG's out there for KP?

Because the trade was really about shedding salary?

Right, for Kyrie, but now we have D.Fox or D.Mitchell so why sign Kyrie to a max? I guess D.Mitchell can play either guard spot so him and Kyrie would actually be a pretty damn nice back court.

Those other teams didn't want KP. Or they did without the dumpster fire that were the combined contracts of THJr and CLee. Thanks Phil-Mills.

newyorker4ever · Post #2180 » by **newyorker4ever** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 3:08 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Because the trade was really about shedding salary?

Right, for Kyrie, but now we have D.Fox or D.Mitchell so why sign Kyrie to a max? I guess D.Mitchell can play either guard spot so him and Kyrie would actually be a pretty damn nice back court.

Those other teams didn't want KP. Or they did without the dumpster fire that were the combined contracts of THJr and CLee. Thanks Phil-Mills.

Yeah i get that but that wasn't the point i was trying to make. What my point was was if the Knicks supposedly had inside info that Kyrie was gonna sign with us in the offseason then why would they try to trade KP for a PG when they could of tried for a SF or a SG or any other position? A lot of people were saying that the Knicks never would of traded KP if they didn't already have a commitment from KD and or Kyrie or from any of the max guys and i never believed that and think they made the trade without any commitments from any players. I think their thinking is if they strike out in free agency then keep building with young players through the draft and make sure any money you spend will be off the books for the following offseason and try for two max players again. The problem is we might not ever see a free agency with this many star/super star players in it like we'll have this offseason.

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