hypothetical trade - Towns for KP?

[br7knicks]

It doesn't raise any red flags for anyone that they're looking to dump KAT already?

that's what i mean by attitude. don't like that, especially since he was drafted as a franchise cornerstone. i don't want either.

[Greenie]

It doesn't raise any red flags for anyone that they're looking to dump KAT already?

that's what i mean by attitude. don't like that, especially since he was drafted as a franchise cornerstone. i don't want either.

I don’t judge players attitudes like you.
These teams ain’t ****. They want loyalty but give none. This is a damn business. These players are right to look out for themselves. These teams damn sure won’t.

[Billy Goat]

Not sure why Minnesota would do this, KAT is a much better player.

i don't think much better. their style of play is pretty similar, in that they're both solely focused on offense, can take it out to the perimeter, but can also attack the basket - although KP has better handles.

my concern is that they both have me-first attitudes. i'd prefer neither player. KAT doesn't have that alpha, killer mentality, but neither does KP.


i worry about KP and his injury. minny wouldn't do that trade on the injury alone

Towns hasnt missed a game in 3 years and is an efficiency/rebounding machine. Porzingis is not.

[RHODEY]

Not sure why Minnesota would do this, KAT is a much better player.

i don't think much better. their style of play is pretty similar, in that they're both solely focused on offense, can take it out to the perimeter, but can also attack the basket - although KP has better handles.

my concern is that they both have me-first attitudes. i'd prefer neither player. KAT doesn't have that alpha, killer mentality, but neither does KP.


i worry about KP and his injury. minny wouldn't do that trade on the injury alone

hmmm so one guy who is "solely focused on offense" shuts down the paint and led the league in block shots the other guy has terrible defensive instincts and footwork..I don't see the similarity.

[Oscirus]

Yes, KP at his best is probably better then Kat. However, dude is rarely at his best, he has low stamina, cant stay on the court and is quite the diva. But yes lets act like a kat for porzingis deal is laughable.

[gavran]

Not sure why Minnesota would do this, KAT is a much better player.

i don't think much better. their style of play is pretty similar, in that they're both solely focused on offense, can take it out to the perimeter, but can also attack the basket - although KP has better handles.

my concern is that they both have me-first attitudes. i'd prefer neither player. KAT doesn't have that alpha, killer mentality, but neither does KP.


i worry about KP and his injury. minny wouldn't do that trade on the injury alone

hmmm so one guy who is "solely focused on offense" shuts down the paint and led the league in block shots the other guy has terrible defensive instincts and footwork..I don't see the similarity.

If Porzingis is an elite rim defender while giving no nookies, I don't even want to know what he is capable of, when caring.

[br7knicks]

It doesn't raise any red flags for anyone that they're looking to dump KAT already?

that's what i mean by attitude. don't like that, especially since he was drafted as a franchise cornerstone. i don't want either.

I don’t judge players attitudes like you.
These teams ain’t ****. They want loyalty but give none. This is a damn business. These players are right to look out for themselves. These teams damn sure won’t.

And you're probably right, more right than me. But there are players who come in with a chip on their shoulder attitude, winning comes first, etc.

I want to see guys come in and set that sort of tone.

[br7knicks]

Not sure why Minnesota would do this, KAT is a much better player.

i don't think much better. their style of play is pretty similar, in that they're both solely focused on offense, can take it out to the perimeter, but can also attack the basket - although KP has better handles.

my concern is that they both have me-first attitudes. i'd prefer neither player. KAT doesn't have that alpha, killer mentality, but neither does KP.


i worry about KP and his injury. minny wouldn't do that trade on the injury alone

hmmm so one guy who is "solely focused on offense" shuts down the paint and led the league in block shots the other guy has terrible defensive instincts and footwork..I don't see the similarity.

I'd lead the league in blocks too if I sacrificed guarding my man to get an easy, meaningless block that wasn't necessary in the first place.

Yes. Both of them have their priority in offense, and couldn't care less about actual defense the majority of the time.

[br7knicks]

i don't think much better. their style of play is pretty similar, in that they're both solely focused on offense, can take it out to the perimeter, but can also attack the basket - although KP has better handles.

my concern is that they both have me-first attitudes. i'd prefer neither player. KAT doesn't have that alpha, killer mentality, but neither does KP.


i worry about KP and his injury. minny wouldn't do that trade on the injury alone

hmmm so one guy who is "solely focused on offense" shuts down the paint and led the league in block shots the other guy has terrible defensive instincts and footwork..I don't see the similarity.

If Porzingis is an elite rim defender while giving no nookies, I don't even want to know what he is capable of, when caring.

I'd rather he start caring about playing good, smart defense, so he stops giving up easy jumpers and buckets to his man because he's busy looking for an easy block.

He doesn't care about defense, he cares about stats

[br7knicks]

Not sure why Minnesota would do this, KAT is a much better player.

i don't think much better. their style of play is pretty similar, in that they're both solely focused on offense, can take it out to the perimeter, but can also attack the basket - although KP has better handles.

my concern is that they both have me-first attitudes. i'd prefer neither player. KAT doesn't have that alpha, killer mentality, but neither does KP.


i worry about KP and his injury. minny wouldn't do that trade on the injury alone

hmmm so one guy who is "solely focused on offense" shuts down the paint and led the league in block shots the other guy has terrible defensive instincts and footwork..I don't see the similarity.

We can go back and forth all day. Porzingis hasn't done a single thing to change my mind, after watching each game this past season. Until he does, I'll stand by what he shows me on the TV

[ChaosHamster]

Its really getting ridiculous..

I mean, you can argue KP isn't a good defender, that hes average.. But dude here who doesn't even understand defensive rotations (and obviously doesn't care about stats) is flooding the thread with bs about KP being a hair better than KAT, because he watched every game and thinks he knows what hes talking about..

[thebuzzardman]

I'm losing track of who sucks and is good on defense between the two. Somebody give me a recap on the various schools of bs. I can't even tell which posts are about which player. Please. Try to stick to pre-existing narratives on players. Thanks.

[digitaldropoff]

KP for Towns is honestly a push. It's not worth making a trade for Towns if you have to trade KP. If you could get Towns without giving up KP, it's worth considering a trade.

It's always worth considering if you can get an AS without any actual assets

KP can't be traded until he gets back on the court, otherwise the Knicks would get no where close in return value for him. He has injury history, he's built like a weaker version of Lerch, and he's coming off a major injury. No team is giving up major assets, KAT, the Suns pick.....until he gets back on the court.

[ChaosHamster]

I'm losing track of who sucks and is good on defense between the two. Somebody give me a recap on the various schools of bs. I can't even tell which posts are about which player. Please. Try to stick to pre-existing narratives on players. Thanks.

Its all about how you feel and what you see. Nothing else matters.

[thebuzzardman]

I'm losing track of who sucks and is good on defense between the two. Somebody give me a recap on the various schools of bs. I can't even tell which posts are about which player. Please. Try to stick to pre-existing narratives on players. Thanks.

Its all about how you feel and what you see. Nothing else matters.

Lol. I'm kidding around. Though I do worry KP will be injury prone. Other than that, I don't care what KP and Janis do.

[Meat]

It doesn't raise any red flags for anyone that they're looking to dump KAT already?

you wanna try being black playing a winter sport in Minnesota?

[Greenie]

that's what i mean by attitude. don't like that, especially since he was drafted as a franchise cornerstone. i don't want either.

I don’t judge players attitudes like you.
These teams ain’t ****. They want loyalty but give none. This is a damn business. These players are right to look out for themselves. These teams damn sure won’t.

And you're probably right, more right than me. But there are players who come in with a chip on their shoulder attitude, winning comes first, etc.

I want to see guys come in and set that sort of tone.

Winning needs to come first for the organization before you can ever expect a player to have it here.

This is the reason that whoever we bring in from executives, coaches and players fail.

The Knicks are about money. Not winning.

[Greenie]

I'm losing track of who sucks and is good on defense between the two. Somebody give me a recap on the various schools of bs. I can't even tell which posts are about which player. Please. Try to stick to pre-existing narratives on players. Thanks.

Its all about how you feel and what you see. Nothing else matters.

Dumb ass stats damn sure don’t.

[br7knicks]

It doesn't raise any red flags for anyone that they're looking to dump KAT already?

you wanna try being black playing a winter sport in Minnesota?

Don't think race matters. Some of us just hate the **** winter. I grew up in the Catskill mountains, I know cold and snow. I didn't ski or snowboard, despite having a mountain 2-3 miles from my house, because I hate cold. I chose basketball. It's indoors.

[br7knicks]

I don’t judge players attitudes like you.
These teams ain’t ****. They want loyalty but give none. This is a damn business. These players are right to look out for themselves. These teams damn sure won’t.

And you're probably right, more right than me. But there are players who come in with a chip on their shoulder attitude, winning comes first, etc.

I want to see guys come in and set that sort of tone.

Winning needs to come first for the organization before you can ever expect a player to have it here.

This is the reason that whoever we bring in from executives, coaches and players fail.

The Knicks are about money. Not winning.

You're right, that's why ticket prices still go up, despite a **** team. But bringing in the right core of players can change a lot. I don't trust this organization tho. I just don't get why they're OK with the rangers doing it, but not the knicks