ImageImageImageImageImage

Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley

Moderators: moocow007, magnumt, Jeff Van Gully, NoLayupRule, Thugger HBC, King of Canada, j4remi, mpharris36, Thorn, Deeeez Knicks, Capn'O, GONYK, K-DOT, mrpoetryNmotion

Oscirus
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,333
And1: 2,838
Joined: Dec 09, 2011
       

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#41 » by Oscirus » Thu May 31, 2018 9:41 pm

Oakley coming off as entitled as Ethan Hawke. Didn't think I'd ever say that.
MadGrinch
Veteran
Posts: 2,676
And1: 292
Joined: Jan 31, 2002
Location: NYC of course

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#42 » by MadGrinch » Thu May 31, 2018 9:48 pm

Its because I'm green isn't it?
User avatar
Im Coming Home
RealGM
Posts: 15,768
And1: 4,795
Joined: Dec 08, 2009
Location: Bay Shore, NY
       

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#43 » by Im Coming Home » Thu May 31, 2018 10:13 pm

Meat wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:If this video is true, and that Oak was just minding his own business, then security is lucky that he didn't beat the **** out of them. Think about it - if you were sitting in a seat that was paid for, and then security told you to leave even though you were just minding your own business, are you seriously telling me you wouldn't lose your ****, especially after these guards put their hands on you? I can't believe people aren't siding with Oak here. Holy ****.

doesn't matter, ever read the back of a ticket? management always reserves the right to eject anyone for any reason

Doesn't mean you have to just say "okay sir no problem" and move on and take an L for a game you paid to watch.
Image
"I think this is really good experience for me, actually. It's a tough year, it's a tough everything. There's a quote, 'If the sea is smooth, you're never going to become a great sailor'" Porzingis said
User avatar
Are We Ther Yet
Head Coach
Posts: 6,686
And1: 4,487
Joined: Nov 07, 2012
       

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#44 » by Are We Ther Yet » Fri Jun 1, 2018 1:17 am



There's no audio. How do you know he wasn't yelling obscenities or whatever.?
a knick fan forum. not a "argue ad nauseam about narratives and biases you hold like blood feuds that span decades" forum, you sentient buttplug. - Marty McFly :lol:
User avatar
Daaaarryyl
Starter
Posts: 2,100
And1: 365
Joined: Jan 13, 2002
Location: Eddie's house wondering why he wants to get me and Dave drunk.

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#45 » by Daaaarryyl » Fri Jun 1, 2018 2:14 am



Look at John McEnroe at 11:22 after he retakes his seat.


He know's Oak was done dirty.


John's a diehard Knick fan who respected Oak-dog.


Just look at his reaction.


He's clearly shaken.
Bulls69 wrote:The think about the Bulls we realizes we sucks but the Knicks on the other hand think everyone wants to play a garbage a** team. get real a team who has not won a win in over thirty -five years


Less Bulls, MORE books!!
nedleeds
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,816
And1: 1,280
Joined: Dec 25, 2016
 

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#46 » by nedleeds » Fri Jun 1, 2018 2:51 am

'Phuck all you white boys' ... angry racist clown Oak. He could have been the hero who dethroned Dolan, instead he's too dumb, drunk or both to know when to not be the bully and just be the martyr.
NYKAL
Head Coach
Posts: 7,498
And1: 1,550
Joined: Nov 10, 2004
Location: LAND O NOD

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#47 » by NYKAL » Fri Jun 1, 2018 11:59 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
NYKAL wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
You're a piece of ****, Meathead.

Fck those thugs. They assault Oak if they didn't remove him legally.


oldhead watch the video again ....I know the memory is often the 1st thing to go :)



OAK did the assaulting. Dude could have taken the High road and Dolan would have been the ONLY villain. **** self entitled former Knicks


LOL, I’m a lawyer who dealt in police abuse/misconduct for 30 years. I know how to view a video without “help” from some pussy ass street punk who can’t tell the difference between **** and shineola. Now you can go away.


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM mobile app


:lol:
KennySkyWalker
Senior
Posts: 558
And1: 200
Joined: Oct 08, 2017

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#48 » by KennySkyWalker » Fri Jun 1, 2018 12:07 pm

blueNorange wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:Can someone post the video? Has anyone seen the video?

Management has the right to refuse service. Isn't that a thing? Seriously. Even if it's a silly reason. Don't they have that right?

This whole thing is just a shame. I would like to actually see video that proves he wasn't doing anything.

i work at a theatre and yes, management can throw you out if they feel like you're being disruptive.

in all accounts video evidence show that oakley was being disruptive, and then he put his hands on people who were just doing their job .. then they showed oakley how fast they can take him down.



Was he being disruptive before they asked him to leave?
KennySkyWalker
Senior
Posts: 558
And1: 200
Joined: Oct 08, 2017

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#49 » by KennySkyWalker » Fri Jun 1, 2018 12:30 pm

Are We Ther Yet wrote:


There's no audio. How do you know he wasn't yelling obscenities or whatever.?


I just watched the video and it is clear that Dolan did not like people praising Oakley. McEnroe turning around to shake Oak's hand also did not sit well with Jimmy. Look at the security on the right staring down Oakley the entire time making him feel uncomfortable. The difference is Oakley is respected in MSG while Jimmy is not and never will be. This was Dolan wielding his power to humiliate Oakley in front of the fans.

If Dolan did not want Charles in MSG then he should have had people refuse him at the door. Dolan caused a needless spectacle, not Charles.

One last thing which is VERY important in that video. You see KP with his hands on his hips watching a beloved ex-Knick getting tossed out of the Garden. How do you think that sat with him??? Especially when he looks at that shlump Dolan sitting there front row thinking he's all mighty and proud of his power. Dolan needs to change his seat. What player wants to look at that every game??
NYKAL
Head Coach
Posts: 7,498
And1: 1,550
Joined: Nov 10, 2004
Location: LAND O NOD

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#50 » by NYKAL » Fri Jun 1, 2018 1:33 pm

blueNorange wrote:loll how easily people forget that the whole thing escalated the moment oakley put his hands on security.

but whatever oakley is an all time knick favorite and can do no wrong.


as long as your a Knicks legend it OK to assault people who are just doing their job. Dolan may have been an ass here but, the Assholery was compounded by Oak.
nedleeds
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,816
And1: 1,280
Joined: Dec 25, 2016
 

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#51 » by nedleeds » Fri Jun 1, 2018 1:44 pm

KennySkyWalker wrote:
blueNorange wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:Can someone post the video? Has anyone seen the video?

Management has the right to refuse service. Isn't that a thing? Seriously. Even if it's a silly reason. Don't they have that right?

This whole thing is just a shame. I would like to actually see video that proves he wasn't doing anything.

i work at a theatre and yes, management can throw you out if they feel like you're being disruptive.

in all accounts video evidence show that oakley was being disruptive, and then he put his hands on people who were just doing their job .. then they showed oakley how fast they can take him down.



Was he being disruptive before they asked him to leave?


https://nypost.com/2017/02/10/msg-security-testimony-oakley-called-us-racist-henchmen/

From the moment he got on the elevator. We've got 6-8 witnesses.
User avatar
MaseInYourFace
RealGM
Posts: 22,288
And1: 6,999
Joined: Jul 14, 2010
Location: New York City the best city in the world
     

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#52 » by MaseInYourFace » Fri Jun 1, 2018 1:46 pm

I don't really care at this point.
A new era or error?
nyczlegacy
Analyst
Posts: 3,096
And1: 318
Joined: Mar 28, 2009

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#53 » by nyczlegacy » Fri Jun 1, 2018 2:26 pm

yeah who gives a ****
god shammgod wrote:didn't watch a minute. it feels good. might not watch more than a game or two for the rest of the season. there's nothing to see. our best player is a midget g-leaguer.
User avatar
J9Starks3
Veteran
Posts: 2,777
And1: 461
Joined: May 22, 2007
Location: CT
       

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#54 » by J9Starks3 » Fri Jun 1, 2018 2:48 pm

blueNorange wrote:loll how easily people forget that the whole thing escalated the moment oakley put his hands on security.

but whatever oakley is an all time knick favorite and can do no wrong.


It escalated after the 1 guard put his hands on Oak and he pushed his hands off and shoved him... good response, probably not... but particularly if there is video evidence that Oak was not the instigator, then really it “escalated” the minute that little trust-fund rat Dolan decided to kick someone out because he didnt like him. If he didnt have such a complex, and left well enough alone, this never happens. Then again, he wouldnt be James Dolan then so maybe our entire organization would be such a joke.
Billy Goat
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,707
And1: 659
Joined: Mar 08, 2017
 

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#55 » by Billy Goat » Fri Jun 1, 2018 2:53 pm

NYKAL wrote:
blueNorange wrote:loll how easily people forget that the whole thing escalated the moment oakley put his hands on security.

but whatever oakley is an all time knick favorite and can do no wrong.


as long as your a Knicks legend it OK to assault people who are just doing their job. Dolan may have been an ass here but, the Assholery was compounded by Oak.


May have been? If Oakley was minding his own business then this is absurd.
NYKAL
Head Coach
Posts: 7,498
And1: 1,550
Joined: Nov 10, 2004
Location: LAND O NOD

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#56 » by NYKAL » Fri Jun 1, 2018 3:05 pm

Billy Goat wrote:
NYKAL wrote:
blueNorange wrote:loll how easily people forget that the whole thing escalated the moment oakley put his hands on security.

but whatever oakley is an all time knick favorite and can do no wrong.


as long as your a Knicks legend it OK to assault people who are just doing their job. Dolan may have been an ass here but, the Assholery was compounded by Oak.


May have been? If Oakley was minding his own business then this is absurd.


even if he was, it did not make it ok to assault those guys. It didn't escalate until HE put hands on them. Do we just excuse that. Which is the worst offense, acting like a jerk and abusing your authority to have someone removed or, Oak for actually ASSAULTING people. In Oaks case I would be pissed but, I would not even consider putting hands on security. He would have been seen as the clear cut victim but, instead he chose to victimize guys who were just doing their jobs.
KennySkyWalker
Senior
Posts: 558
And1: 200
Joined: Oct 08, 2017

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#57 » by KennySkyWalker » Fri Jun 1, 2018 3:09 pm

nedleeds wrote:
KennySkyWalker wrote:
blueNorange wrote:i work at a theatre and yes, management can throw you out if they feel like you're being disruptive.

in all accounts video evidence show that oakley was being disruptive, and then he put his hands on people who were just doing their job .. then they showed oakley how fast they can take him down.



Was he being disruptive before they asked him to leave?


https://nypost.com/2017/02/10/msg-security-testimony-oakley-called-us-racist-henchmen/

From the moment he got on the elevator. We've got 6-8 witnesses.


Then that's different if true, however, keep in mind these security people work for Dolan. At that point, he should not have been allowed to be seated in the arena. Security f'd up if he was belligerent in the elevator. That's really my entire point with this issue because once he was seated, it was Dolan who made the spectacle by having him tossed. The fans and players witnessed one of the all-time best Knicks thrown out of MSG. I blame Dolan because it should never have gotten to that point.

Also, my brother-in-law was fired by Dolan during the Anucha Brown nonsense because he refused to cooperate with MSG and go along with the party line. He is a TV producer who now works for Bellator, NY Giants and now the Brooklyn Nets on a fill-in basis. So it worked out well for him, although the travel is murder.
1999
Sophomore
Posts: 199
And1: 100
Joined: Apr 25, 2012

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#58 » by 1999 » Fri Jun 1, 2018 3:17 pm

Meat wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Meat wrote:doesn't matter, ever read the back of a ticket? management always reserves the right to eject anyone for any reason


Right, management reserves the right to kick your ass for no reason. :lol: Fcuk off, Meathead. You like sucking that corporate dick, huh?

come at me again, ill gape you so large herpes will be the least of your genital concerns


Ayoooooooo...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
User avatar
Meat
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,888
And1: 2,357
Joined: Jun 30, 2013
       

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#59 » by Meat » Fri Jun 1, 2018 3:29 pm

the sad part in all of this is Oakley who by all metrics was just an above average player.. is considered an all time knick great. God this franchise is pathetic
User avatar
Clyde_Style
RealGM
Posts: 29,056
And1: 15,586
Joined: Jul 12, 2009
Location: Free Candy Van
 

Re: Oakley v. Dolan, video surfaces backing Oakley 

Post#60 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jun 1, 2018 3:31 pm

Image

I don't have the Oak footage, but I did record this showdown between Meat and Wingo:

Spoiler:
Image
Image

Return to New York Knicks