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GONYK wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:Polk377 wrote:I don't see any way of resolving the Noah issue other than the amnesty or straight buyout. No one really knows where his head is at and it looks like he has been spending time with Phil at his Montana ranch smoking something....
Amnesty? We used that on Amare' as soon as it took effect.
No, we didn't
Polk377 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Polk377 wrote:
I like Kanter and what he does well vs his deficiencies. He needs to decide what he wants to do before the draft so the Knicks aren't left with a hole at C in case he moves on.
Silver and the NBA should look to move free agency before the draft and move the draft to mid July.
And Noah. Ugh
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I don't see any way of resolving the Noah issue other than the amnesty or straight buyout. No one really knows where his head is at and it looks like he has been spending time with Phil at his Montana ranch smoking something....
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RIP mags Are We Ther Yet wrote:Stretch Noah. Sign Beasley. Continue the cycle of WTF?!
reub wrote:Are We Ther Yet wrote:Stretch Noah. Sign Beasley. Continue the cycle of WTF?!
Noah should be out of the doghouse this season. That's another reason that we shouldn't want Kanter back here. Noah, O'Quinn and Kornet with hopefully KP getting healthy and playing some five is more than enough at that position. We need to upgrade our forwards, which is why we should draft Mikal, Miles or Porter and sign Hezonja and/or Jerami Grant as UFAs.
RIP mags reub wrote:Are We Ther Yet wrote:Stretch Noah. Sign Beasley. Continue the cycle of WTF?!
Noah should be out of the doghouse this season. That's another reason that we shouldn't want Kanter back here. Noah, O'Quinn and Kornet with hopefully KP getting healthy and playing some five is more than enough at that position. We need to upgrade our forwards, which is why we should draft Mikal, Miles or Porter and sign Hezonja and/or Jerami Grant as UFAs.
newyorker4ever wrote:reub wrote:Are We Ther Yet wrote:Stretch Noah. Sign Beasley. Continue the cycle of WTF?!
Noah should be out of the doghouse this season. That's another reason that we shouldn't want Kanter back here. Noah, O'Quinn and Kornet with hopefully KP getting healthy and playing some five is more than enough at that position. We need to upgrade our forwards, which is why we should draft Mikal, Miles or Porter and sign Hezonja and/or Jerami Grant as UFAs.
Perry already said they aren't going after any free agents besides some vets to help the young guys and Henzonja and J.Grant aren't that. I think J.Grant is gonna be a wanted man by plenty of teams this off season as well.
RIP mags Are We Ther Yet wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:reub wrote:
Noah should be out of the doghouse this season. That's another reason that we shouldn't want Kanter back here. Noah, O'Quinn and Kornet with hopefully KP getting healthy and playing some five is more than enough at that position. We need to upgrade our forwards, which is why we should draft Mikal, Miles or Porter and sign Hezonja and/or Jerami Grant as UFAs.
Perry already said they aren't going after any free agents besides some vets to help the young guys and Henzonja and J.Grant aren't that. I think J.Grant is gonna be a wanted man by plenty of teams this off season as well.
As of today...we have no cap or roster space. They CAN'T sign anyone. Unless Kyle opts out and they stretch Noah for no reason...Nothing happens. Stay tuned.
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newyorker4ever wrote:Are We Ther Yet wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:
Perry already said they aren't going after any free agents besides some vets to help the young guys and Henzonja and J.Grant aren't that. I think J.Grant is gonna be a wanted man by plenty of teams this off season as well.
As of today...we have no cap or roster space. They CAN'T sign anyone. Unless Kyle opts out and they stretch Noah for no reason...Nothing happens. Stay tuned.
Well yeah i know that but it sure sounds to me like Perry is planning on using the stretch provision on Noah, which i'm against, and ya gotta think at least one of Kanter or KOQ will opt out if not both of them. If it were up to me i wouldn't stretch Noah and would actually play him 20 minutes a night or whatever he can handle and i'd love for Kanter to opt out and either let him go or re-sign him if he would sign for nothing more then $11 mil per, and with KOQ, i'd love to have him back but wouldn't give him any more then say $8 mil per which i don't think either one of them would do at those prices.
RIP mags Are We Ther Yet wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:Are We Ther Yet wrote:
As of today...we have no cap or roster space. They CAN'T sign anyone. Unless Kyle opts out and they stretch Noah for no reason...Nothing happens. Stay tuned.
Well yeah i know that but it sure sounds to me like Perry is planning on using the stretch provision on Noah, which i'm against, and ya gotta think at least one of Kanter or KOQ will opt out if not both of them. If it were up to me i wouldn't stretch Noah and would actually play him 20 minutes a night or whatever he can handle and i'd love for Kanter to opt out and either let him go or re-sign him if he would sign for nothing more then $11 mil per, and with KOQ, i'd love to have him back but wouldn't give him any more then say $8 mil per which i don't think either one of them would do at those prices.
Kanter is not opting out. I wouldn't stretch Noah either. There is no reason to pay him to leave. I hope Perry isn't like the others.
GONYK wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:GONYK wrote:
Why? Is Kanter going to guard the perimeter so KP can protect the rim?
Kanter will guard the paint unless John Henson Gortat, Jarret Allen or Baynes are banging down 3 after 3 after 3. Otherwise, Kanter will man the paint with KP providing weakside rim protection. If we surround Kanter with KP, Frank, and Mikal, it'll work out much better.
I'd like to see Kornet on the court with Kanter.
So who is covering stretch 4's? Because KP will cheat in as long as Kanter is playing the 5, because Kanter is terrible in space when guarding the PnR.
Why would Kornet and Kanter be any better? Kornet is less agile than KP.
NYKAL wrote:GONYK wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
Kanter will guard the paint unless John Henson Gortat, Jarret Allen or Baynes are banging down 3 after 3 after 3. Otherwise, Kanter will man the paint with KP providing weakside rim protection. If we surround Kanter with KP, Frank, and Mikal, it'll work out much better.
I'd like to see Kornet on the court with Kanter.
So who is covering stretch 4's? Because KP will cheat in as long as Kanter is playing the 5, because Kanter is terrible in space when guarding the PnR.
Why would Kornet and Kanter be any better? Kornet is less agile than KP.
Hicks?
nedleeds wrote:Polk377 wrote:
I don't see any way of resolving the Noah issue other than the amnesty or straight buyout. No one really knows where his head is at and it looks like he has been spending time with Phil at his Montana ranch smoking something....
I just don't see the Noah "issue" given where we are. We all wish we'd done nothing but dump Melo in that offseason however it done now and we're just better off holding the contract until we have a 5% chance of being competitive. This year isn't that year and neither is next year. This year should be focused on losing as many games while KP is out. Every year he parties on his yacht lessens the money we owe with respect to the cap. There's no point in stretching until we have something real to do. If we make it to his final year he can be matching expiring salary, which is useful.
Also, who gives a flying **** if we have a 'hole' at center? More losses, play a young prospect and see if he can improve. Kanter doesn't need to do **** before the draft, nobody in that draft room is taking anything about Kanter into account when making the pick. He is irrelevant. He has 1 year left in a massive tank year, we play him enough to maybe trade him as an expiring to a playoff team who suffers an injury. Same with Lee, play him enough so other teams know he's alive.
Jeff Van Gully wrote:nedleeds wrote:Polk377 wrote:I don't see any way of resolving the Noah issue other than the amnesty or straight buyout. No one really knows where his head is at and it looks like he has been spending time with Phil at his Montana ranch smoking something....
I just don't see the Noah "issue" given where we are. We all wish we'd done nothing but dump Melo in that offseason however it done now and we're just better off holding the contract until we have a 5% chance of being competitive. This year isn't that year and neither is next year. This year should be focused on losing as many games while KP is out. Every year he parties on his yacht lessens the money we owe with respect to the cap. There's no point in stretching until we have something real to do. If we make it to his final year he can be matching expiring salary, which is useful.
Also, who gives a flying **** if we have a 'hole' at center? More losses, play a young prospect and see if he can improve. Kanter doesn't need to do **** before the draft, nobody in that draft room is taking anything about Kanter into account when making the pick. He is irrelevant. He has 1 year left in a massive tank year, we play him enough to maybe trade him as an expiring to a playoff team who suffers an injury. Same with Lee, play him enough so other teams know he's alive.
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NYKAL wrote:GONYK wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
Kanter will guard the paint unless John Henson Gortat, Jarret Allen or Baynes are banging down 3 after 3 after 3. Otherwise, Kanter will man the paint with KP providing weakside rim protection. If we surround Kanter with KP, Frank, and Mikal, it'll work out much better.
I'd like to see Kornet on the court with Kanter.
So who is covering stretch 4's? Because KP will cheat in as long as Kanter is playing the 5, because Kanter is terrible in space when guarding the PnR.
Why would Kornet and Kanter be any better? Kornet is less agile than KP.
Hicks?
