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Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins

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Re: Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins 

Post#1944 » by Meat » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:18 pm

FrontOfficeEye wrote:Back injuries can lead to hip injuries...which can lead to other lower body injuries down the line. This is bad for MPJr.

i think it's the inverse, in my experience its usually poor hips that lead to bad backs. I don't think its as doom and gloom as everyone says, porter is big and broad hes got a lot of room to get stronger improve his core\hips but it's something
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Post#1945 » by HEZI » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:25 pm

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HEZI wrote:How do you have hip spasms before a workout though? Usually you get muscle spasms after workouts


because these guys are working out pretty much everyday, sometimes 2x a day


It would be pretty dumb on their part if they had him doing strenuous workouts the same week as his pro day
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Post#1948 » by GONYK » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:32 pm

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HEZI wrote:How do you have hip spasms before a workout though? Usually you get muscle spasms after workouts


because these guys are working out pretty much everyday, sometimes 2x a day


It would be pretty dumb on their part if they had him doing strenuous workouts the same week as his pro day

I doubt he was just laying on the couch perfectly still until Friday though.

He probably got hurt doing basketball activities, which is even worse.
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Didn't Amar'e also injure his back while dunking in the layup line?
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Re: Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins 

Post#1951 » by Newyorknick94 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:37 pm

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Didn't Amar'e also injure his back while dunking in the layup line?

Had back spasms in the playoffs against Boston
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Re: Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins 

Post#1952 » by dakomish23 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:39 pm

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i wouldn't mind it but can't have all those guards on the roster.

Frank/Burke/Mudiay
Thjr/Lee/Walker/Dotson/Baker

and really it was proven last year that none of those guys can play a wing position.

So if Lonnie is the pick I THjr and Lee should be seen the door or there will be a major log jam.

I still would pick MIkal over Lonnie but I would def have the conversation with Lonnie @ #9...


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Post#1953 » by HEZI » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:40 pm

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because these guys are working out pretty much everyday, sometimes 2x a day


It would be pretty dumb on their part if they had him doing strenuous workouts the same week as his pro day

I doubt he was just laying on the couch perfectly still until Friday though.

He probably got hurt doing basketball activities, which is even worse.


That's what I'm saying, if he got hip spasms doing light basketball drills then that just highlights the major concerns we've had with him. If they had him doing heavy drills and risked burning him out before Friday, that makes them look bad. Either way it's a crappy situation for him, unless somebody is lying about the whole situation.
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Re: Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins 

Post#1954 » by TheGreenArrow » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:42 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:Mikal Bridges will be like the Channing Frye pick. Potential all-stars may get picked after him ( ala Bynum), but just like Frye did, Bridges will have the longer and more productive career. A great role player but never truly an all-star.


Is that what we need with this pick??

I dont think so.
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Re: Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins 

Post#1955 » by Spree2Houston » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:45 pm

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Spree2Houston wrote:Mikal Bridges will be like the Channing Frye pick. Potential all-stars may get picked after him ( ala Bynum), but just like Frye did, Bridges will have the longer and more productive career. A great role player but never truly an all-star.


Is that what we need with this pick??

I dont think so.


Not for our team. He's more suited for Philly. They have their stars. They need super-glue players. A guy like Mikal Bridges would thrive being the 4th option. He would struggle being the #2 option here ala JR Smith
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Re: Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins 

Post#1956 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:49 pm

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Spree2Houston wrote:Mikal Bridges will be like the Channing Frye pick. Potential all-stars may get picked after him ( ala Bynum), but just like Frye did, Bridges will have the longer and more productive career. A great role player but never truly an all-star.


Is that what we need with this pick??

I dont think so.


Not for our team. He's more suited for Philly. They have their stars. They need super-glue players. A guy like Mikal Bridges would thrive being the 4th option. He would struggle being the #2 option here ala JR Smith


He wouldn't be thrust into the 2nd option. With KP injured, Kanter and THJr are the first two options. After that, it could be Mikal. When KP comes back, he'd still be the third option, assuming Kanter is not brought back. For all we know, Frank comes back more aggressive and plays like he did in spurts last year and actually takes that third option role.

He's a perfect fit for the Knicks, and not taking him because he doesn't have the supposed upside (which I would debate against, actually) of someone later (but a MUCH higher bust potential) out of fear that he's not a second option, when that's not necessary right now, is silly.

You take Mikal because he can be the elite two way player on a potential championship team, not to be a 2nd option.
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Post#1958 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:51 pm

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i wouldn't mind it but can't have all those guards on the roster.

Frank/Burke/Mudiay
Thjr/Lee/Walker/Dotson/Baker

and really it was proven last year that none of those guys can play a wing position.

So if Lonnie is the pick I THjr and Lee should be seen the door or there will be a major log jam.

I still would pick MIkal over Lonnie but I would def have the conversation with Lonnie @ #9...


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I'm not worried about any of those guards if we draft Lonnie. I wouldn't be surprised if Lee, Baker, Dotson, and Mudiay will all be gone next year. Plus there are other wings in next years draft. Vanderbilt can play 3/4 and we can get him at 36.
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Re: Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins 

Post#1960 » by Spree2Houston » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:56 pm

FrontOfficeEye wrote:
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Is that what we need with this pick??

I dont think so.


Not for our team. He's more suited for Philly. They have their stars. They need super-glue players. A guy like Mikal Bridges would thrive being the 4th option. He would struggle being the #2 option here ala JR Smith


He wouldn't be thrust into the 2nd option. With KP injured, Kanter and THJr are the first two options. After that, it could be Mikal. When KP comes back, he'd still be the third option, assuming Kanter is not brought back. For all we know, Frank comes back more aggressive and plays like he did in spurts last year and actually takes that third option role.

He's a perfect fit for the Knicks, and not taking him because he doesn't have the supposed upside (which I would debate against, actually) of someone later (but a MUCH higher bust potential) out of fear that he's not a second option, when that's not necessary right now, is silly.

You take Mikal because he can be the elite two way player on a potential championship team, not to be a 2nd option.


I don't mind Mikal as long as we have a plan to get KP's sidekick in the future (Irving or maybe next year's draft if we're drafting at the top). Mikal is more suited as the 4th option on a championship team (ala Danny Green on the Spurs).

I like Mikal but I feel like you need to shoot for higher potential when you're drafting top 10, just my opinion.

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