Is there truly any logical explanation for Kanter to opt out?

[PeoplesChamp]

The only way he opts out is if he gets a longer term deal. And the Knicks would be stupid to do that at almost any number.

He's going to opt in. We just have to take our medicine.

[nykballa2k4]

The ONLY reason why Enes Kanter would opt-out is if he was sure he'd get a spot playing for the Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, or some top 4 contending Western Conference team. Otherwise, he is NOT turning down $18M because he's not sniffing that anywhere else but in New York.

Let's re-visit that Melo trade:

1. Enes Kanter: Didn't really make that much of an impact. The Knicks had 2 more in the loss column (than the previous season). Sure, injuries can factor into it but the Knicks were never really in it after the first 2 months of the season.

2. Doug McDermott: Gone to Dallas.

3. Second round Pick: Ding!

Can the Knicks win this otherwise, unremarkable trade by hitting draft gold in the second round? We'll see if Perry has "Vegas Gold Knights" magic.

Doug McBuckets became Mudiay so technically that's still a moving piece... If Muddy reports in actual NBA shape he could be our Oladipo.

as per OP: Though Kanter is a starting C, there is little need for a team to sign him to anything in the ball park of reasonable. More likely is that he signs an extension with the Knicks so that the Knicks can look for a FA wing or guard to pair with a traded-for wing/guard using some combo of Noah, 2018 1st, 2019 1st, muddy, Frank as trade bait. IE Kyrie signing in 2019 and us trading for Jimmy Butler.

Why would the Knicks want Kanter long term? Why would they choose to gut their assets instead of just letting him walk?

Not really what I want, but what I think will happen sadly... I think the ownership/GM likes Kanter and see him/KP as the future front court. Kanter may offer to take a smaller salary ie 4 years 48M because he knows that we need some ability to get better and he could live where he wants. Again, I would rather have flexibility. I just Perry/Mills doing 3 years 45M 3rd year PO.

[nykballa2k4]

The ONLY reason why Enes Kanter would opt-out is if he was sure he'd get a spot playing for the Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, or some top 4 contending Western Conference team. Otherwise, he is NOT turning down $18M because he's not sniffing that anywhere else but in New York.

Let's re-visit that Melo trade:

1. Enes Kanter: Didn't really make that much of an impact. The Knicks had 2 more in the loss column (than the previous season). Sure, injuries can factor into it but the Knicks were never really in it after the first 2 months of the season.

2. Doug McDermott: Gone to Dallas.

3. Second round Pick: Ding!

Can the Knicks win this otherwise, unremarkable trade by hitting draft gold in the second round? We'll see if Perry has "Vegas Gold Knights" magic.

Doug McBuckets became Mudiay so technically that's still a moving piece... If Muddy reports in actual NBA shape he could be our Oladipo.

as per OP: Though Kanter is a starting C, there is little need for a team to sign him to anything in the ball park of reasonable. More likely is that he signs an extension with the Knicks so that the Knicks can look for a FA wing or guard to pair with a traded-for wing/guard using some combo of Noah, 2018 1st, 2019 1st, muddy, Frank as trade bait. IE Kyrie signing in 2019 and us trading for Jimmy Butler.

You lost me when you mentioned Mudiay and Oladipo in the same sentence.


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The problem with Oladipo (one of them) was his level of physical fitness. Mudiay is also an out of shape player. Dipo was a bad contract 365 days ago. Can Mudiay get in shape and change his prognosis like WHG?

[HarthorneWingo]

Doug McBuckets became Mudiay so technically that's still a moving piece... If Muddy reports in actual NBA shape he could be our Oladipo.

as per OP: Though Kanter is a starting C, there is little need for a team to sign him to anything in the ball park of reasonable. More likely is that he signs an extension with the Knicks so that the Knicks can look for a FA wing or guard to pair with a traded-for wing/guard using some combo of Noah, 2018 1st, 2019 1st, muddy, Frank as trade bait. IE Kyrie signing in 2019 and us trading for Jimmy Butler.

You lost me when you mentioned Mudiay and Oladipo in the same sentence.


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The problem with Oladipo (one of them) was his level of physical fitness. Mudiay is also an out of shape player. Dipo was a bad contract 365 days ago. Can Mudiay get in shape and change his prognosis like WHG?

Mudiay can't shoot. That shot is broken.

[nykballa2k4]

You lost me when you mentioned Mudiay and Oladipo in the same sentence.


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The problem with Oladipo (one of them) was his level of physical fitness. Mudiay is also an out of shape player. Dipo was a bad contract 365 days ago. Can Mudiay get in shape and change his prognosis like WHG?

Mudiay can't shoot. That shot is broken.

Jump shots are different when your legs are working. His shot wasn't bad pre-draft (wasn't good, but it wasn't Ball-bad).

[jvsimonetti0514]

If Kanter can get a 4 year 40-44 million a year deal I think he'd have to be a moron not to take it. 18 million this year or the very long-term security of 44. That's a lot of money. Also, I don't think you hire a new agent to sit with the same contract. I'm sure his agent will encourage him to get a new contract because then he gets paid as well.
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This the center position is becoming obsolete. By this time next off season his strengths could be even more undervalued. That's not even taking into consideration a down statistical/injury plagued season.

And if you're a center that doesn't block shots you're skill set is becoming more obsolete.

[seren]

His market is pretty thin. Unless we already decided to do something really stupid (like promise an extension), he should opt in.

[god shammgod]

here's that explanation you were looking for

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A few days before his father was indicted by the Turkish government, Enes Kanter hosted the Enes Kanter Camp organized by NYC Basketball Kids and Playbook in New York City over the weekend. He took a few minutes to answer some questions from ESPN.com. Here, Kanter reiterates that he'd still prefer a long-term contract as opposed to a one-year deal. He has until June 29 to decide on his 2018-19 player option, worth $18.6 million. "Obviously, I want to be here. It's just that I would feel better and feel more secure and feel more comfortable if I signed (a contract for) multiple, two or three whatever, years," Kanter said Saturday. "Think about it. Next year, if you get hurt, then what? I know you can't worry about it but it's always in the back of your head like, ‘Man, if I get hurt, what's going to happen?'"

[j4remi]

Wiggins and Crawford opted out for no logical reason either...let's just cross our fingers.

[god shammgod]

Wiggins and Crawford opted out for no logical reason either...let's just cross our fingers.

i always thought he would for the exact reason he stated, but the landscape doesn't look great for him. which makes me think if he does it the knicks decided to re-up with him for multiple years.

[j4remi]

Wiggins and Crawford opted out for no logical reason either...let's just cross our fingers.

i always thought he would for the exact reason he stated, but the landscape doesn't look great for him. which makes me think if he does it the knicks decided to re-up with him for multiple years.

That's the type of thing that I'll have a nightmare about. Just the ESPN ticker going by with Knicks sign Kanter to 4 year deal scrolling across and I wake in a cold sweat scrambling to check my phone and make sure it isn't real.

[bigboss31]

and the moment kanter opts in his name becomes "expiring contract."

If he opts in, which I hope he doesn't, this is the positive I'm seeing.


It'd be nice if the Knicks could work something with a team like the Nuggets, who are looking to cut salary (although I think they're doing it this year, not next).

[Phish Tank]

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